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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:25:04 No.21441900 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21441934 >>21441988 >>21441990

>yfw most megamence don't carry a dragon move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:26:36 No.21441917 Report

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There are better coverage moves out there than Dragon. You just have to worry about Garchomp, because two of the other common Dragons are weak to Stone Edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:27:52 No.21441934 Report

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>>21441900
Why does this need a thread of it's own? This is obvious m8, Ground/Flying has great coverage, Normal->Flying gets the small boost just by being via aerilate too, and
>fairies

I'm planning to run

- Dragon Dance
- EQ
- Return
- Fire Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:31:25 No.21441988 Report

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>>21441900
I'm going to run:
F-Blast
Draco Meteor
Hyper Voice
Rockslide

Pretty much nothing new. Though that I think of rockslide becomes redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:31:30 No.21441990 Report

Quoted By: >>21441999

>>21441900
Wow friend, want to see a fun calc?
+1 252 Atk Aerilate Salamence Double-Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Garchomp: 367-433 (102.5 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:32:25 No.21441999 Report

Quoted By: >>21442024

>>21441990

>+1
>double edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:35:00 No.21442024 Report

Quoted By: >>21442039 >>21442069 >>21442106 >>21442113 >>21442151

>>21441999
>not running Double Edge
-1 252 Atk Mega Garchomp Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 254-302 (76.7 - 91.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Without a Crit, a Salamence coming in goes to +1. If you have to bring Chomp in, something dies, whether that be Garchomp or the fodder. If the fodder is killed, Mence is still going to rip out a fucking huge chunk of most Mega Garchomp.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:36:25 No.21442039 Report

Quoted By: >>21442057

>>21442024
>running mence to specifically beat garchomp and not to sweep

You do realize it will be dead after the Double-Edge, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:38:42 No.21442057 Report

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>>21442039
Yes, but my point is that Garchomp doesn't wall it in any capacity. It gets blown the fuck out and Salamence then murders everything not named "Mega Slowbro."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:40:03 No.21442069 Report

Quoted By: >>21442102 >>21442113

>>21442024

>-1
>+1

this just in, salamence can now run intimidate and moxie at the same time!

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:42:16 No.21442102 Report

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>>21442069
Nigger what?
That indicates Salamence being able to come in after letting something die to Garchomp, which sets off Intimidate. Because even max Attack Garchomp. Providing it isn't Adamant, cannot OHKO an uninvested Salamence, the Dragon Dance following that is guaranteed. In most cases you won't do this, but if you have to, Double-Edge is going to kill basically anything staying in.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:42:55 No.21442106 Report

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>>21442024

>-1 garchomp
>mence either takes an outrage on the switch, or chomp donks with swords dance

okay m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:43:29 No.21442113 Report

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>>21442069
>come in on Garchomp -1
>DD cause Garchomp can't kill see >>21442024
>Double-Edge

Look at >>21442057 for clarification

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:47:14 No.21442151 Report

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>>21442024

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:51:10 No.21442181 Report

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>>21442151
In that case, Garchomp kills with Outrage, yes.

I know we were all assuming Salamence isn't running Outrage, but if it is, 'Mence wins by pressing the button, whether or not you have hazards.

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