>>21444218Fine, I'll be a little more coherent.
>>21444256Base 55>50. Jolly or Adamant, Cacturne tends to get full ATK and SPE investment while Azumarill may run speed, but gets split with HP. And again see 1: Azumarill's base stat remains inferior to Cacturne anyway, so unless it's an Adamant Cacturne vs a Jolly Azu with max speed, the rabbit's not going to outspeed no matter how you cut it.
I consider it a counter because it gets a free switch-in to Aqua Jet. Also:
>252+ Atk Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 318-374 (87.3 - 102.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO>252+ Atk Life Orb Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 413-486 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKOAlternatively use Sash to get off one SD, next turn Seed Bomb dispatch the rabbit, proceed to wreck everything else with Sucker Punch. May be a little specific, but Cacturne's definitely not shitmon.tier.
