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Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:19:32 No.21491148 View View Reply Original Report

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So vp

I recently got into competitive Pokemon, and I realized that I'm shit.
Playing with only sweepers, from being used to the normal game and such...

I got better, but now I've run into a problem that I just can't seem to overcome. I've tweaked my team multiple times, but I just can't seem to be able to beat Stall Pokemon.

I'm talking stuff like Umbreon, Suicune, Milotic...
Also just generally tanky Mons like Florges give me trouble.

Is my team just bad?
Do I not use it well?
Is it actually really easy and am I just shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:20:05 No.21491156 Report

Quoted By: >>21491216 >>21491288 >>21491330 >>21491480 >>21491595

My team:
Lawn Mower (Doublade) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Shadow Claw
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance

Nidoblue (Nidoking) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock

3Fast5U (Infernape) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Mach Punch

Curly Hair (Tangrowth) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Steel]
- Focus Blast

Phil (Aerodactyl) (M) @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Tail
- Crunch

Suu (Goodra) (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Gooey
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Muddy Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:23:53 No.21491216 Report

Quoted By: >>21491244

>>21491156
Specsed Tangrowth? Modest?

But the real question is, i'm truly curious - why HP Steel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:25:22 No.21491244 Report

Quoted By: >>21491293

>>21491216
I hate Flores... and they always seem to get my Doublade down.
Specially offensive Tangrowth no good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:27:23 No.21491288 Report

Quoted By: >>21491341

>>21491156
I think you're just not using it well. I'd also rethink the Tangrowth spread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:27:35 No.21491293 Report

Quoted By: >>21491341

>>21491244
if that's for Florges - isn't sludge bomb enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:29:59 No.21491330 Report

Quoted By: >>21492112

>>21491156
See?

Nobody uses a "male" Goodra. /vp/ is secretly in denial and this is undeniable proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:30:20 No.21491341 Report

Quoted By: >>21491378

>>21491293
Erm.... I.... Yes. I'm a moron. Fairy was weak to Poison all along.
>>21491288
As in, make it tanky?
I'd lack special offence tho. Or would Goodra + Nidoking be enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:32:50 No.21491378 Report

Quoted By: >>21491427

>>21491341
You hate "male" Goodra.

Just admit it, and I'll leave this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:35:38 No.21491427 Report

Quoted By: >>21491516

>>21491378
Don't you mean "M.ale", mate?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:38:52 No.21491480 Report

Quoted By: >>21491516

>>21491156
>Suu (Goodra) (F)
>(F)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:41:07 No.21491516 Report

Quoted By: >>21491540 >>21491730

>>21491427
See the "?

>>21491480
Why does it matter? Transgender G.oodra are genuinely bad. Why would you prefer on of those over a normal, female G.oodra? Fuck off, denialfag.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:42:55 No.21491540 Report

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>>21491516

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:45:43 No.21491595 Report

Quoted By: >>21491625 >>21491699

>>21491156

Defensive pokémon annoys you? teach Taunt to your aerodactyl or infernape.
Try a more defensive tangrowth
And that goodra needs be (M), like every healthy goodra, reemplaze muddy water with dragon tail for pokemon with sword dance or calm mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:47:04 No.21491625 Report

Quoted By: >>21491659

>>21491595
>And that goodra needs be (M), like every healthy goodra
>transg.ender goodra
>healthy

Pick one.

How is a transg.ender Goodra "healthy"? The poor thing thinks she's male for unknown reasons.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:49:15 No.21491659 Report

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>>21491625

Goodra(F)ag get out, you deserve to get your ass raped for using 6 sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:51:57 No.21491699 Report

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>>21491595
Taunt huh.... Never really seen the value in that, but I guess it's a great answer to shit like Rest and Calm Mind....

On a side note, what would you lot recommend for the Tangrowth then? Just the same moveset (obv without HP Steel) or something else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:54:02 No.21491730 Report

Quoted By: >>21491809

>>21491516
Transgendered Goodra can't help it.

there isn't any need to be mean to them ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Oct 2014 23:58:23 No.21491809 Report

Quoted By: >>21491858 >>21491867

>>21491730
But she is biologically female like all G.oodra. Because she identifies herself as a male, there is a male symbol next to her name. OP's G.oodra does not identify herself as a male, so she just has a female symbol. Male G.oodra do not exist. Those are really transgender G.oodra whom we are talking about right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:02:16 No.21491858 Report

Quoted By: >>21491867

>>21491809
(a)

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Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:03:19 No.21491867 Report

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>>21491809
>>21491858

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:04:50 No.21491892 Report

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>people actually replying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:14:27 No.21492040 Report

Quoted By: >>21492069

If you want to be a retard and run too many sweepers, at least use something like this where will-o-wisp can't fuck with half the team.

Scolipede @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Protect
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
- Poison Jab

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Claw
- Thunder Punch

Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Iron Head
- Stone Edge

Victini @ Choice Band
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- Zen Headbutt
- U-turn

Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Mach Punch
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Ice Punch

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Zen Headbutt
- Explosion

Still terrible, but marginally better than OP. Have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:16:16 No.21492056 Report

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I'd like to know why you niggers have kept this shit on the front page.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:16:49 No.21492069 Report

Quoted By: >>21492134 >>21496544

>>21492040
I play UU tho.
Also I'm not going for Full Sweepers, I have some bulk on my team, too. It's just that I don't wanna play stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:19:35 No.21492112 Report

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>>21491330
Nigger! Get the fuck out of here with your gay shit!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:21:04 No.21492134 Report

Quoted By: >>21492168

>>21492069
Well, then you have more good fire types, I guess? Arcanine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 00:23:30 No.21492168 Report

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>>21492134
Whom would I replace for said firetype?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 05:30:21 No.21496544 Report

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>>21492069
I suggest using anti-lead infernape
Infernape @ Focus Sash
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
-Fake Out
-Overheat
-Close Combat
-Stealth Rock
Prevents the other team from getting up hazards while allowing you to get up your own. Nidoking normally runs 4 attacks so that could be your scarfer if you still want one. Also replace earthquake on your aerodactyl with taunt or defog as you have a lot of other mons that can deal with rock/steel/fire/electric types.
My 2 cents

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 05:37:10 No.21496599 Report

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Your problem is that you don't have any utility pokemon. Nothing taunts, nothing has status moves, etc... All your pokemon are just 4 attacks. You don't have any tools for actually doing anything about any strategy of any kind that your opponent may concoct.

Try out pokemon like whimsicott, sableye, meowstic, thundurus, things like that. Jellicent is a favorite of mine. Pokemon is way more deep and fun when your pokemon do more than just try to muscle everything out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Oct 2014 05:47:46 No.21496677 Report

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Change Tangrowth into a wall set, Nidoking + Goodra is redundant, change King to something that can tank some special hits (Florges maybe?)

Also 4 attacking moves areo is a complete waste of his movepool, he has taunt, roost, stealth rocks and hone claws. I'd get rid of Aqua Tail and Crunch. But if you really want to run another attack go with Fire/Ice fang.

Put D-Tail on Goodra over Muddy Water, that's kinda gimmicky.

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