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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:43:09 No.21520848 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21520876 >>21520929 >>21520968 >>21521170 >>21521217 >>21521956

So /vp/, from all the new megas that have been announced for ORAS which one do you guys thing would be the best for competative play? include moveset and ev spread if possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:47:48 No.21520869 Report

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If we're not counting Primals/Rayquayquay then Salamence hands down. Of all of them definitely Rayquaza though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:48:18 No.21520876 Report

Quoted By: >>21520926 >>21521340

>>21520848
>best

Groudon @ Red Orb
Desolate Land
Adamant / Impish
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge / Roar
- Fire Blast / Roar
- Stealth Rock

(^:

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:55:15 No.21520908 Report

Quoted By: >>21523178

i'll be using m-altaria.
worse than salamence, but i like the design.
i would have used m-sableye, if it wasn't garbage.

naive/ naughty
-return
-eq
-fireblast
-ddance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:56:03 No.21520913 Report

Quoted By: >>21520925

Anybody else ever get slightly terrified by the staggering power creep of this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:59:01 No.21520925 Report

Quoted By: >>21520933

>>21520913
when i saw the mega ray announcement vid and it swept then entire team while unboosted i got as little sad.
online is just going to get worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:59:17 No.21520926 Report

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>>21520876
No solar beam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 11:59:58 No.21520929 Report

Quoted By: >>21520939 >>21520959

>>21520848
Would personally use M-Gallade
Jolly with usual EV for a setup sweeper
>Swords Dance
>Close Combat
>Knock Off
>Ice Punch

Needs a partner to kill off fairies

Too bad for its ability. Could have been tough claws or something, but hey Keldeo is S-rank with a shit ability. At least inner focus is usable situationally

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:00:24 No.21520933 Report

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>>21520925
Get your xerneas ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:01:42 No.21520939 Report

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>>21520929
they could have given it anything, defiant would have been great.
even justified would have been better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:04:11 No.21520959 Report

Quoted By: >>21521015 >>21521398

>>21520929
Replace CC with Drain Punch and we're golden. Defenetly use this mega. what about shadow sneak instead of SD? Priority is needed and attack.is.already high as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:05:45 No.21520968 Report

Quoted By: >>21521222 >>21521731

>>21520848
what the fuck is that thing at the bottom

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:15:21 No.21521015 Report

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>>21520959

From what i've experienced playing OrasOU the last few days, I can safely say that your attack can never be high enough for that meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:47:11 No.21521170 Report

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>>21520848
>competative

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:55:59 No.21521217 Report

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>>21520848

>getting half the type combos reversed...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 12:57:01 No.21521222 Report

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>>21520968
New Hoopa form. It's also not a mega.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:16:41 No.21521340 Report

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>>21520876
> Earthquake over Precipice Blades

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:21:03 No.21521367 Report

Quoted By: >>21521372 >>21521731

I haven't been on /vp/ in a while who the fuck is at the bottom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:21:52 No.21521372 Report

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>>21521367
Hoopa's new form, hope you liked your ass since it's gone now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:27:00 No.21521398 Report

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>>21520959
Base 165 is only about as good as normal LO Gallade

Damn out of all the megas the ones that surprised me are Gallade, shitmon like Mawile and Kangaskhan gets a second wind thanks to broken abilities.

Gallade managed to be really good with a shit one, A rank in OU is my guess

With that surprisingly OK bulk I might use this set in doubles, r8 and h8 pls, also EV suggestion
>Jolly
>Ice Punch
>CC
>Rock Slide
>Wide Guard/Protect

Ice Punch to hit dragons and Landorus, CC as a hard hitting stab coming of 165 base attack, might be using Rock Slide with a quick guard user to kill Talonflame, since most Talonflame have uninvested speed

>Tfw Tough Claws M-Gallade might be S-rank OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:41:22 No.21521484 Report

Quoted By: >>21521602

Salamence? What else, it's freaking broken holy shit. It's honestly a little better than mega mom, cause it's bulkier, faster, can boost its speed, actually had resistances and can go special.

If we ignore that steaming pile of what the fuck was GF thinking, I wouldn't say there's any one best one, but some of the best ones are:
>Lopunny. Ridiculous speed and unresisted STAB coverage makes it extremely good against offense, and has a ridiculous support movepool which includes healing wish which is legit an incredible move and would be very common if more things had it
>Altaria. Godly typing and good movepool and ability makes up for 'low' stats. Checks a lot of things and can run a cool bulky DDance set
>Gallade. Basically an grade over Medicham, 'only' has 165 base attack but has Swords Dance while Medicham does not, and the speed tier is very crucial
>Swampert. Gives rain teams a super bulky sweeper than can survive shit like LO Latios Draco Meteor. Not particularly strong but the bulk allows you to be pretty aggressive with it
>Slowbro. Fucking hell it's so bulky, it counters virtually every physical attacker and Calm Mind sets become a problem very quickly.
>Metagross. It's significantly better than people on /vp/ are saying, I don't know what everyone is smoking. bulk+typing allows it to serve as a check to a lot of stuff, notably Latios who can usually only be reliably handled by dedicated walls
>Diance. Ridiculous offenses while being pretty bulky
>Latias. Another really bulky mega, CM set is cool

So yeah those are the best, but that's like half of them. We got a lot of good megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 13:56:41 No.21521602 Report

Quoted By: >>21521642 >>21521776

>>21521484
>Metagross. It's significantly better than people on /vp/ are saying, I don't know what everyone is smoking. bulk+typing allows it to serve as a check to a lot of stuff, notably Latios who can usually only be reliably handled by dedicated walls

This. Literally everywhere else but /vp/ has people saying that it's a competent threat. I dont know what the fuck /vp/ is doing to collectively fuck it up, but they sure did a thorough job of it.

It's bulky as shit, not weak to Knock Off (the most common Dark move), and has enough resistances to find time to set up. I've seen people argue that it's shit because it can't set up in Megazard X's face... like, no shit. One of the strongest Flare Blitz's in the game OHKO's a pokemon weak to it? Wow. Big surprise.
It's biggest predominant issue is 4MSS, making it rely on teammates.

Also, I'd add Sceptile to that list. I've been surprised by how good it is. Turns out that natural speed is actually really useful when you have decent coverage and decent power to back it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:01:46 No.21521642 Report

Quoted By: >>21521843 >>21522830

>>21521602
How have you been running your Sceptile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:15:30 No.21521731 Report

Quoted By: >>21521829

>>21521367
>>21520968
It's a Psychic/Dark-type avatar of destruction.
Literally as tall as Gyarados is long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:22:18 No.21521776 Report

Quoted By: >>21521813 >>21521901

>>21521602
>not weak to Knock Off
Um...Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:27:17 No.21521813 Report

Quoted By: >>21522012

>>21521776
Knock Off only hits with base 65 power on a megamon if that's what that anon means, with his bulk Metagross can take base 65 super effective attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:30:25 No.21521829 Report

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>>21521731
Is Hoopa the anti-Arceus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:31:22 No.21521835 Report

Quoted By: >>21521851

Banned to ubers:
Rayquaza
Groudon
Kyogre
Salamence (easier to deal with in VGC, but still incredibly strong)

High tier OU material:
Swampert
Slowbro
Diancie
Latias
Latios (though honestly I don't expect it to see much usage, M-Latias is the better of the two at what it does)
Hoopa (probably, don't know enough atm)

Low tier OU/BL material:
Sceptile
Metagross
Altaria
Lopunny
Gallade

UU material:
Beedrill
Sharpedo (Possibly BL, unlikely we'll see it too much in OU since the necessity of protect limits its movepool)
Camerupt
Sableye (has niche uses in OU)

RU material:
Glalie
Steelix
Pidgeot
Audino

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:33:19 No.21521843 Report

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>>21521642
Not that anon, but Timid/Modest with Leaf Storm, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast, and HP Fire/Giga Drain. It's quite good as a revenge killer and hit and runner. Fucking shame it doesn't have Draco Meteor, that would be perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:34:21 No.21521851 Report

Quoted By: >>21521910

>>21521835
>Gallade
>Altaria
>Low tier OU

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:43:26 No.21521901 Report

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>>21521776
65 BP Knock-off ain't shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:44:26 No.21521910 Report

Quoted By: >>21521927 >>21522012

>>21521851
have you played with/against Mega Altaria you dumb fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:46:58 No.21521927 Report

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>>21521910
Yes, and it's quite good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:50:52 No.21521956 Report

Quoted By: >>21521968

>>21520848
Wait wut, Mega Steelix?

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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:52:03 No.21521968 Report

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>>21521956

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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 14:58:26 No.21522012 Report

Quoted By: >>21522830

>>21521813
It's still enough to make Mega Metagross lose to Bulky SD Mega Scizor.
>>21521910
Sounds like anon considers them to be high-tier OU. I'm inclined to agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 16:56:40 No.21522830 Report

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>>21521642
I really like the Joey set he used in his vid. Timid, Sub, Dragon Pulse, Giga Drain/Energy Ball and Focus Blast.

Sub helps a lot on a fast mon like that. In certain incidents, it'll give you second chances to hit missed Focus Blasts, you can use it to protect yourself against Mamo, and just general does what Sub does best. I dont find myself missing HP Fire all that much (though that's largely due to team structure).

>>21522012
That's more due to Metagross having a hard time dealing with Bulky Scizor in the first place. In general, a 65 BP attack won't be doing much even if it's STAB and SE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2014 17:46:15 No.21523178 Report

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>>21520908
>implying M Sableye is garbage.

It ain't. So long as your opponent doesn't have any Physical Fire types (pretty much just Charizard X and TalonFlame), then you can burn them with Priority Will-O-Wisp after mega evolving (turn order is decided beforehand), and laugh at the pitiful damage. If they have a special attacker in, priority Calm Mind. If they switch, you get a free Calm Mind or Burn off. The point of M-Sableye isn't to Mega Evolve right off the bat; it's to abuse Prankster for a few turns until they bring out something that could legitimately threaten you, then Mega Evolve and spam Shadow Ball and Recover until they're dead.

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