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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:07:15 No.21635661 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21635709 >>21635727 >>21636281 >>21636432 >>21638208 >>21642209

>finally gets elemental punches, drain punch, and focus punch

Finally this nigga has some time to shine

How good were the move tutor gods to your bros?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:12:12 No.21635707 Report

Quoted By: >>21635736

>didn't get knock off
th-thanks gamefreak

Claire !AIrmVmTcgU

Claire !AIrmVmTcgU Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:12:13 No.21635709 Report

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>>21635661
you're acting like he was from gen 5 and not the current gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:14:53 No.21635727 Report

Quoted By: >>21642465 >>21642494

>>21635661
Pre gen 6 mons didn't really gain anything of note

T-thanks gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:15:07 No.21635728 Report

Quoted By: >>21638098

> also gets gunkshot

Fuck you fairies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:15:50 No.21635736 Report

Quoted By: >>21636271

>>21635707
>Implying he needs it

His current set is about as good as it's going to get.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 17:16:07 No.21635739 Report

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>move tutors are just the BW2 tutors
>only gen VI mons got anything new
Where's my fucking sucker punch Gamefreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 18:13:26 No.21636271 Report

Quoted By: >>21638409

>>21635736

It's actually really good now. Drain Punch allows it to run an Assault Vest set that's similar to Conkeldurr, and it actually gives Conk some competition.

Iron Fist Drain Punch and Ice Punch reach 90 base power, which gives it a lot of healing and more powerful coverage. It's a much safer switch into Latios, and Gunk Shot is much stronger than Poison Jab.

It's also faster, so it can outspeed Clefable and Azumarill.

Pangoro @ Assault Vest
Iron Fist
Adamant
252 Attack / 192 Special Defense / 64 Speed

Drain Punch
Knock Off
Gunk Shot
Ice Punch

The Speed EVs are for outspeeding non-invested Sylveon, but you can lower them to 24 for Clefable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 18:14:10 No.21636281 Report

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>>21635661
> time to shine
Not with that bulk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 18:28:09 No.21636432 Report

Quoted By: >>21636443

>>21635661
Icicle crash / Low kick in the same set.

Time to shine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 18:29:01 No.21636443 Report

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>>21636432
>having a 10 bp increase with a very small chance to flinch and a new miss chance makes it OU material
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 19:40:19 No.21637274 Report

Quoted By: >>21637294

Im not even going to believe that those tutors or even all the new level up learnsets are even final until release. Pidgeot gets fucking nothing, and GF expects people to waste their mega slot on a deadweight piece of shit. Fucking seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 19:41:52 No.21637294 Report

Quoted By: >>21638631

>>21637274
>implying GF understands anything about their own game
They were surprised people ran special aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 19:43:57 No.21637340 Report

Quoted By: >>21638474

Where are you guys seeing the new moves? I wanna see if Avalugg got anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:45:51 No.21638033 Report

Quoted By: >>21638286

Just accept it, bear Pokemon will never be good.
All of them are slow, have shit stats, shit type and weak coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:52:17 No.21638098 Report

Quoted By: >>21638139

>>21635728
>no knock off

GF why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:55:08 No.21638139 Report

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>>21638098
it did get knock off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 20:57:46 No.21638177 Report

Quoted By: >>21638639

This one gets Knock Off and Superpower. Dunno if it'll increase usage at all but I'm happy it'll get some new toys anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:01:17 No.21638208 Report

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>>21635661
They gave my bro nothing
except the best non-legendarymega in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:02:29 No.21638226 Report

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>Heliolisk got Hyper Voice
Preddy gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:06:15 No.21638286 Report

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>>21638033
>bear Pokemon will never be good.
bear pokemon are only good in gangbanging you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:16:09 No.21638409 Report

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>>21636271
Nice set you got there.

>252+ Atk Pangoro Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 262-310 (66.4 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>0 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 192 SpD Assault Vest Pangoro: 384-456 (116 - 137.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252+ Atk Pangoro Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 334-394 (82.6 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pangoro: 880-1036 (265.8 - 312.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:22:49 No.21638474 Report

Quoted By: >>21638539

>>21637340
Avalugg got iron head and some other shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:29:00 No.21638539 Report

Quoted By: >>21638652

>>21638474
Where's this information found?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:35:28 No.21638631 Report

Quoted By: >>21638686 >>21638691

>>21637294
>They were surprised people ran special aegislash
[citation needed]
No really, substantiate the claim that GF was surprised and had their expectations subverted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:36:15 No.21638639 Report

Quoted By: >>21638657

>>21638177
It already had those moves in gen 5. The only difference now is that Play Rough(a gen 6 exclusive egg move) is compatible with 2 moves now. Pretty fucking sweet since nothing resists Dark+Fairy+Figthing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:37:30 No.21638652 Report

Quoted By: >>21638810

>>21638539
http://pastebin.com/JgQc5Z79
Here m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:38:05 No.21638657 Report

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>>21638639
*these* 2 moves now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:40:41 No.21638686 Report

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>>21638631
I don't have any link at the moment but there was an interview with Masuda where he was asked something about the XY metagame and if he was surprised about something, to which he replied that he didn't expect people to run special Aegislash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:41:17 No.21638691 Report

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>>21638631
>We really thought of Aegislash as a Pokémon that would battle using primarily physical attacks

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/keeping-an-eye-on-the-game/

Googling is hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Nov 2014 21:52:48 No.21638810 Report

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>>21638652
Thanks buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:26:06 No.21641932 Report

Quoted By: >>21642155

I heard Kingler gets waterfall. So there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:30:47 No.21641992 Report

Quoted By: >>21642143

>Chatot got Heat Wave
>Vigoroth got fucking Sleep Talk when it's useless due to its ability
>Primeape got nothing (I was hoping he'd get Drain Punch or Knock Off)
>Simisage got Superpower, Knock Off, Synthesis, Gunk Shot
>Pyroar got nothing

>tfw I use a special Simisage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:40:03 No.21642112 Report

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>ALAKAZAM GETS DRAIN PUNCH
>BUT FUCKING MACHAMP DOES NOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:41:50 No.21642134 Report

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>still no Drain Punch Poliwrath
Feels bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:42:45 No.21642143 Report

Quoted By: >>21642231 >>21642312

>>21641992
>Vigoroth got a move that is USELESS for him because of his ability

Oooh wait a minute! Even Gamefreak would be THIS retarded. Maybe Vigoroth gets a second ability?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:42:59 No.21642145 Report

Quoted By: >>21642195 >>21642198

Super Fang, Dual Chop, Iron Head, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Thunder Punch, Block, Iron Defense, Superpower, Zen Headbutt, Iron Tail, Snore, Synthesis, Pain Split, Giga Drain, Drain MOTHERFUCKING Punch, Focus Punch, Worry Seed, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:43:57 No.21642155 Report

Quoted By: >>21642200

>>21641932
you heard wrong, trust me i checked as soon as i heard delphox learned dazzling gleam, but no dice

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:43:57 No.21642156 Report

Quoted By: >>21642178

>Typhlosion hasn't gotten anything new since Gen III

Well fuck you too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:46:14 No.21642178 Report

Quoted By: >>21642852

>>21642156
i want to cum inside starfire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:48:04 No.21642195 Report

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>>21642145
kekt, pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:48:16 No.21642198 Report

Quoted By: >>21642202

>>21642145
Now I'm having a hard time deciding what moveset use for Naught in doubles.
I mean, Leech Seed and Spiky Shield are basically mandatory. But what the fuck I'm supposed to use between Drain Punch, Super Fang and Quick Guard.

Dammit ;_;

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:49:03 No.21642200 Report

Quoted By: >>21642254

>>21642155
So Delphox is still shit then? Gf please stop jerking off the chicken and lizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:49:15 No.21642202 Report

Quoted By: >>21642232 >>21642238

>>21642198
Super fang + Leech Seed + Spiky shield is a nasty combo

Serena 0490-6021-3909

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Serena 0490-6021-3909 Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:49:50 No.21642209 Report

Quoted By: >>21642264

>>21635661
KNOCK OFF. I fucking love this guy.

Also Glaceon, Signal Beam and Water Pulse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:50:38 No.21642216 Report

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>noivern and clawitzer get barely nothinf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:51:49 No.21642231 Report

Quoted By: >>21642262

>>21642143
>Expecting it to get a 2nd ability
That would mean Slaking might get one, and I doubt GF will allow that to happen, considering Truant is part of its gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:51:52 No.21642232 Report

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>>21642202
Spikes would be a better alternative for Super Fang, imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:52:39 No.21642238 Report

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>>21642202
Quick Guard is pretty useful. Shut down Talonflame and every Prankster under the sun and allow the partner to move free in front of them.

That's why I'm not sure what to use. In singles Quick Guard is the one dropped, it has no use there. But in Doubles, I just don't know. I'm going to test the team several times and check about partners and if it actually needs Super Fang or something.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:53:34 No.21642246 Report

Quoted By: >>21642253

Barbaracle still has no waterfall unless the HM numbers shifted around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:54:21 No.21642253 Report

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>>21642246
The HM numbers might have since it's ORAS. Dive and all that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:54:27 No.21642254 Report

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>>21642200
you misinterpret me, delphox does get dazzling gleam. when i heard that i checked if kingler got waterfall now, which it doesn't. i mean delphox is still shit, but outside of quiver dance or mega that's not getting fixed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:54:48 No.21642258 Report

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>mfw smogonbird got shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:54:59 No.21642262 Report

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>>21642231
Vigoroth has always had a different ability than Slaking and several pokemon have different abilities when they evolve, this could easily be the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:55:07 No.21642264 Report

Quoted By: >>21642286

>>21642209
>Also Glaceon, Signal Beam and Water Pulse.
Which is weak as fuck without a setup move(which is fucking Work Up from gen 5) or running a specs. And it still doesn't get Calm Mind :(

Serena 0490-6021-3909

Serena 0490-6021-3909 Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:56:51 No.21642286 Report

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>>21642264
Calm Mind Glaceon would be sick. And it gets Barrier by level up, something only Mewtwo and a select few get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:59:04 No.21642312 Report

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>>21642143
dude sleep talk is learned by almost everything, come on. not to mention it's a TM in gen 6 anyways that vigoroth already learns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 01:59:29 No.21642324 Report

Quoted By: >>21642378

Fuck, Hoopa got almost everything
>Covet , Dual Chop, Signal Beam, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch,
>Magic Coat, Block, Foul Play, Gravity, Last Resort, Zen Headbutt,
>Snore, Knock Off, Role Play, Drain Punch, Focus Punch, Shock Wave,
>Trick, Magic Room, Wonder Room, Recycle, Snatch, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:03:01 No.21642378 Report

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>>21642324
He also got Nasty Plot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:05:25 No.21642415 Report

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>no mega
>completely ignored by tutor gods
>Flygon friends laughing at me

Still my banana loving bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:08:55 No.21642465 Report

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>>21635727
Except for the ones that got Moonblast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:10:43 No.21642494 Report

Quoted By: >>21642507

>>21635727
http://pastebin.com/QCV9mEpE

there's new level-up moves man

>Crunch Gyarados
>Boomburst Flygon
>Coil Milotic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:10:49 No.21642496 Report

Quoted By: >>21642516

>Doublade

No Iron Tail
No Knock off
No Pain split
No Dual Chop

What's that GF? Magnet Rise and Spite? Well how about fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:11:48 No.21642507 Report

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>>21642494
>give Milotic coil but no calm mind
>don't give gyarados coil
>don't give dratini coil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:12:35 No.21642516 Report

Quoted By: >>21642577

>>21642496
>Implying it even needs more stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:16:54 No.21642577 Report

Quoted By: >>21642618

>>21642516
Aegislash has all the good moves. Doublade lacks KS, Head Smash, a special stat to use Shadow ball/Flash cannon. GF could of at least given him Iron tail to make some use of No Guard. Hell, they couldn't even be bothered to give the dual sword pokemon the attack that it literally "attack with two blades"

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:19:04 No.21642618 Report

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>>21642577
>mfw gyarados gets crunch but magikarp didn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:33:46 No.21642852 Report

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>>21642178
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