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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 02:59:58 No.21643267 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21643539 >>21644029 >>21644306

ITT We make up counters to over powered Pokemon. Pic related.

Electric/Fairy
Levitate
105/45/110/125/100/70

Can come in on Dragon Claw/Return/Frustration/Earthquake/Etc and OHKO/2HKO with Moonblast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:01:38 No.21643296 Report

Quoted By: >>21643341 >>21645582

Wouldn't it be better to just give Klefki Levitate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:03:53 No.21643341 Report

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>>21643296
Klefki doesn't have the stats to take a fire blast and loses the its main use a prankster abuser

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:12:17 No.21643539 Report

Quoted By: >>21644101

>>21643267
So we give Dedenne a real Evolution? Eh, why not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:34:45 No.21643879 Report

Quoted By: >>21645948 >>21649832

I don't think Greninja is overpowered per se, but he's certainly powerful now, so I decided to try and think of a counter for him.

Fighting/Ghost
Adaptability.
84/122/30/42/130/126
Can survive Greninja's special attacks (and even some unresisted physical attacks) and switch in on his most common physical attacks. Can OHKO/2HKO with Drain Punch or Earthquake. Outspeeds all Greninja (except the special needs ninjas with scarfs) if it has Jolly Nature.
It fears only the rare Shadow Sneak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:42:26 No.21644029 Report

Quoted By: >>21644055 >>21644056 >>21644076

>>21643267
rhyperior counters M-salamence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:44:38 No.21644055 Report

Quoted By: >>21644898 >>21649490

>>21644029
>le hydro pump face

But in actuality Rhyperior has been a fantastic answer to many threats all gen, but people are just discovering it now.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:44:41 No.21644056 Report

Quoted By: >>21644898 >>21645525

>>21644029
hydro pump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:46:42 No.21644076 Report

Quoted By: >>21644098 >>21644102 >>21644898 >>21645525

>>21644029
184- Atk Rhyperior Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 240-284 (72.5 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

4 SpA Salamence Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 68+ SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 366-432 (84.3 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Nope, can't take 2 neutral hits off of a common move and ohko it in turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:48:02 No.21644098 Report

Quoted By: >>21645525

>>21644076
How common is HydroPump?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO dedenne sad.jpg, 73KiB, 796x452

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:48:50 No.21644101 Report

Quoted By: >>21644321

>>21643539
if only

252 SpA Choice Specs Dedenne Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 312-368 (93.9 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
(312, 314, 320, 324, 326, 330, 332, 338, 342, 344, 348, 354, 356, 360, 362, 368)

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 03:48:53 No.21644102 Report

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>>21644076
shit, left the nature to calm by accident and wrong set, but point still stands.

252+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 306-360 (92.4 - 108.7%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

4 SpA Salamence Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Solid Rock Rhyperior: 300-354 (69.1 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It can only take a hit on a clean switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 04:08:42 No.21644306 Report

Quoted By: >>21644449

>>21643267
Xerneas/Yveltal checks

>Poison/Dark
>Aura Break
>100/120/90/90/150/100

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 04:09:50 No.21644321 Report

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>>21644101
still not a counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 04:22:13 No.21644412 Report

Quoted By: >>21644483

Thundurus
Electric/steel
Electromagnetic field (stops electric types from switching out, even with volt switch but not u-turn)
Has ice beam

Immune to thunder wave, 4x resists both STAB's. Can trap and KO with ice beam

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 04:26:55 No.21644449 Report

Quoted By: >>21644830

>>21644306
Doesn't xerneus get earth power now?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 04:31:18 No.21644483 Report

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>>21644412
focus blast

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 05:06:10 No.21644830 Report

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>>21644449
Xerneas has always had earth power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 05:14:01 No.21644898 Report

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>>21644055
>>21644056
>>21644076
>Hydro Pump Sal

why

is it just for that reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 06:30:49 No.21645525 Report

Quoted By: >>21649680

>>21644056
>>21644076
>>21644098
No one runs hydro pump. But i bet hyper voice does a fuckton.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 06:38:26 No.21645582 Report

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>>21643296
>Not an Air Balloon

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 07:14:39 No.21645948 Report

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>>21643879
>Physical sweeper with only theoretically normal/ghost resisted STAB coverage and adaptability

Shit that's better than Greninja

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 07:37:30 No.21646146 Report

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Can someone give me the pastebin with the new Mega's stats?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 16:41:21 No.21649490 Report

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>>21644055

>hydro pump rhyperior

This would imply that Rhyperior actually becomes high OU usage, which isn't gonna happen. It's gonna have frustration/earthquake/and MAYBE a dragon attack.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 17:03:01 No.21649680 Report

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>>21645525
>252+ SpA Aerilate Salamence Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Rhyperior: 106-126 (24.4 - 29%) -- 99.7% chance to 4HKO

Yeah, no

And in return,

>252+ Atk Rhyperior Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 304-360 (91.5 - 108.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 17:08:04 No.21649724 Report

Quoted By: >>21653628

>RIP Mega Milf

>Pokémon name: ????

>Type: Ghost/Fighting

>Ability: Adaptability/Iron Fist

>Stats: 75/135/90/50/70/120

>Noticeable Moves: Drain Punch, Close Combat, Elemental Punches, Shadow Sneak and Bullet Punch

r8 and h8

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Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 17:08:05 No.21649725 Report

Quoted By: >>21649775

Rock/Electric
Levitate
105/30/110/130/110/105

Shits on Fire and Ground coverage, takes LOL damage from Flying, if you're afraid of random Hydro Pump, simply combine with a Sand setter. Stomps the Uber dragon with a STAB Power Gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 17:11:52 No.21649775 Report

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>>21649725

This really needs to be a type already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 17:18:30 No.21649832 Report

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>>21643879
>122 Atk
>126 Spd
>Adaptability
2 Immunities
Nigga is you crazy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 19:54:26 No.21651615 Report

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Flying/fighting
Ability: Bug Catcher (Lowers the speed of Pokemon who used bug type moves against this Pokemon by one stage. Stops Pokemon from escaping with U-Turn.)

95/45/120/135/95/101

Can take a Earthquake/Knock Off/Stone Edge/U-turn. Stops Landorus from escaping with U-turn can OHKO with Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Hidden Power Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2014 23:03:02 No.21653628 Report

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>>21649724
>No Mach Punch
Other than than that very nice. Megamom might have to run shit like Aerial Ace to wreck it on the switch
9.5/10

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