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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 16:47:57 No.21674877 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21674952 >>21675162 >>21679297 >>21679661

>ITT: discuss XY megas and their place in the ORAS OU meta
Remember pic related? Is it worth using over MGallade? Or will it drop down to BL?
I think once le dragon of balance is b& people will turn to him next for a strong as fuck wall breaker.
Also I've been using mega venu on my team and I've found that so long as you have checks an counters to Talonflame and Salamence (like Lando T) it wrecks havoc. My set right now is giga drain, sludge bomb, synthesis and EQ/hp fire

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 16:54:56 No.21674952 Report

Quoted By: >>21675393 >>21675417

>>21674877
We don't even know how do we get xy megastones in ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:14:48 No.21675162 Report

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>>21674877
It's dropping, the hero's unflinching blade is too stronk.
When the Furious Crescent is banned, Mega Gallade will probably be S-rank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:39:29 No.21675393 Report

Quoted By: >>21675584 >>21675634

>>21674952

Are megastones not tradeable?

I'm pretty sure they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:42:19 No.21675417 Report

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>>21674952
The method has existed since gen 2 you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:46:33 No.21675452 Report

Quoted By: >>21675529 >>21676039 >>21679368

Zard X and Pinsir will be fine once Mence leaves

Gyarados got better now that it has Crunch so it's not going anywhere.

Mega Tyranitar and Mega Garchomp will stay OU by default but no one will use them, just like usual.

Zard Y is a mixed bag. It got some new counters in Mega Altaria and Mega Latias but it fares well against Sableye and Slowbro stall. Either way, it's going to stay OU by default because of Zard X's usage even if it's own goes down.

Venusaur took a pretty big hit from all these new megas but it's still useful enough to still stay in OU.

Manectric gets outsped by Lopunny, Sceptile, and Beedrill but I don't feel like they're enough enough to make it drop. If it does drop it'll probably be because of mega slot competition more than anything but I doubt it will happen.

Gardevoir shits on Mega Sableye stall so it will probably stick around but I can also see it lose usage because of mega slot competition too.

Heracross might drop because stall teams are less afraid of it now that they have Mega Sableye and Mega Slowbro (Pin Missile doesn't 2HKO, holy shit Slowbro). And obviously it's threatened by a lot of new megas especially the 110 speed crowd who can all hit it super effectively with their STABs.

R.I.P in peace Medicham. Even if it didn't have Gallade outclassing it, Slowbro and Sableye both hard counter it like nobody's business. If anything's dropping it's this nigga.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:55:21 No.21675529 Report

Quoted By: >>21675575

>>21675452
252+ Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Slowbro: 280-340 (71 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Heracross does pretty well, actually.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 17:59:43 No.21675562 Report

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M-Medicham is okay since Fake Out is safe to use and it hits harder than M-Gallade without Swords Dance.

Otherwise, you're better off using M-Gallade instead.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:01:26 No.21675575 Report

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>>21675529
My bad, I think I had Heracross burned when I was doing the calc.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:02:57 No.21675584 Report

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>>21675393
There's no reason they shouldn't be. You can't trade the new ones back, obviously

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:08:33 No.21675634 Report

Quoted By: >>21675868

>>21675393
You can't trade them through Pokébank; what everyone planned to do. You have to do physical trades to transfer them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:31:33 No.21675868 Report

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>>21675634
so you'll need two 3ds/2ds to do the stone trade once again?

...they really are going back to gen I-III mechanics, aren't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:49:08 No.21676039 Report

Quoted By: >>21676127

>>21675452

M-Manectric speed ties M-Lopunny and Intimidates it.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:59:32 No.21676127 Report

Quoted By: >>21679419 >>21679516

>>21676039
lopunny is 1 point faster

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:07:19 No.21679263 Report

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bumpnan

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:10:35 No.21679297 Report

Quoted By: >>21679678 >>21679734

>>21674877

Poor mega medicham. Everyone thought it was shit for the longest time, and just when people finally realize it's pretty good it gets shit on by mega gallade.

Enjoy BL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:16:33 No.21679368 Report

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>>21675452
>Venusaur took a pretty big hit from all these new megas

It walls Altaria, Lopunny, Sceptile, and Swampert so it didn't take big hit from every single one of the new Megas.

>Manectric gets outsped by Lopunny

Speed ties with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:20:20 No.21679419 Report

Quoted By: >>21679734

>>21676127
Lopunny has 136 Attack, not Speed.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:26:41 No.21679516 Report

Quoted By: >>21679734

>>21676127

Stop saying that. They fucking speed tie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:36:40 No.21679661 Report

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>>21674877
>totally forgot that medicham has a mega

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:37:57 No.21679678 Report

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>>21679297
Serves it right

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:41:42 No.21679733 Report

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Aerodactyl loves this new metagame. Outspeeds and destroys lots of popular threats.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:41:45 No.21679734 Report

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>>21679419
>>21679516
well i'll be damned, i was sure it was 136 speed, my bad

>>21679297
i'll keep using it, it still is pretty good

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