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I think it's a generally good idea, though maybe they should suspect M-mence and Hoopa before banning, as once the metagame settles, they may not be that ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:37:58 No.21675938 Report

Quoted By: >>21675966

>>21675906
>I think it's a generally good idea, though maybe they should suspect M-mence before banning
K
E
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You do realise it's nearly impossible for the meta to adapt to MegaMence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:38:32 No.21675946 Report

Quoted By: >>21675978

>>21675859
ok i didn't really get greninja as s rank to begin with, but will that thing really be broken just because of gunk shot? not like vest azu was the perfect counter to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:41:11 No.21675966 Report

Quoted By: >>21675992

>>21675938
It's most likely broken, I agree, but you never know what porential checks or counters could be found. Remember, back at the beginning of BW, people though Haxorus and Terrakio were broken, but people found checks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:42:36 No.21675978 Report

Quoted By: >>21687751

>>21675946
Well, with Gunk Shot and Low Kick now available to it, Chansey and stuff like Sylveon, which once countered Greninja, are now easy pickings for it, so I do see where you're coming from

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:44:23 No.21675992 Report

Quoted By: >>21676016

>>21675966
Cress, Porygon2 and Rhyperior, right now, are the closest mons to a counter against Mence. Barely anything else has the bulk to check it otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:46:33 No.21676016 Report

Quoted By: >>21679035

>>21675992
I've personally found Sash mamo and sash SD Weavile to be decent, if shaky checks to Mmence, though I really haven't had time to test them out, so this is pure theorymonning

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:50:39 No.21676056 Report

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>>21675859
i don't even know any of those people in the op

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:54:35 No.21676082 Report

Quoted By: >>21676123 >>21676205

>People in this thread want Greninja to stay in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:59:11 No.21676123 Report

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>>21676082
>People in this thread want Hoopa-H quickbanned
It needs a suspect test at least imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:08:55 No.21676205 Report

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>>21676082
>people in this thread want Genesect to be unbanned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:33:04 No.21677521 Report

Quoted By: >>21678540

Sdef Tentacruel is good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 22:19:31 No.21677936 Report

Quoted By: >>21679078

Why does the Export tool only export one Pokemon at a time? How do I get it to show the entire team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:10:31 No.21678540 Report

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>>21677521
It's alright, but it has no form of recovery and if Gren has extrasensory it loses. All counters to gren are now checks in ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:46:34 No.21678998 Report

Quoted By: >>21687154

>>21675906
>Suspect Hoopa
Not as if it's got any big weaknesses or slow as shit or anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:48:34 No.21679035 Report

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>>21676016
Hardly checks if it's bulkymance or your sash is gone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:51:40 No.21679078 Report

Quoted By: >>21686506

>>21677936
>awful lopunny set
Go to the teambuilder and there should be an option to import/export next to the team heading

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:54:50 No.21679115 Report

Quoted By: >>21685421

What is a better coverage for my sableye?
Shadow ball and dazling gleam
Or
Dark pulse and dazling gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:08:08 No.21679270 Report

Quoted By: >>21684487 >>21685260

i'm trying to get into ORAS OU, is there any basic generic team i could use to get started?

Fuzzywobbles 0361-7602-3412

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Fuzzywobbles 0361-7602-3412 Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:54:51 No.21679895 Report

Quoted By: >>21685224

I made a Victreebel spread awhile back and wanted to know your opinions on it. I plan to use it in VGC Doubles and possibly Smogon Singles.

Victreebel @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EV's: 156 HP/ 116 Def/ 136 Sp.Atk/ 100 Spe.
Modest Nature
- Giga Drain
- Weather Ball
- Hidden Power Ice
- Encore

-Outspeeds 252SPD Jolly Garchomp under Sun and 2HKO's it with HP Ice
-OHKO's Politoed with Giga Drain
-OHKO's Adamant M-Mawile with Weather Ball under Sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 05:50:52 No.21684487 Report

Quoted By: >>21685200

>>21679270
mega salamence
greninja
garchomp
ferrothorn
bisharp
sylveon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 07:27:02 No.21685200 Report

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>>21684487
That's not a very good team tbq.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 07:33:11 No.21685224 Report

Quoted By: >>21687226

>>21679895
With that spread you aren't going to get far. I guess the fast as fuck encore is useful in doubles, not sure if sleep powder wouldn't achieve the same thing while being alot more crippling for the hit mon. If you are using it in singles def drop all the def evs and encore - you aren't living a hit from anything to begin with. Also where is the solar beam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 07:38:06 No.21685260 Report

Quoted By: >>21685290

>>21679270
Just run mega salamence and magnezone youll be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 07:43:22 No.21685290 Report

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>>21685260
This. Dragmag/birdspam crossover teams are literally broken right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 08:04:27 No.21685421 Report

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>>21679115
Shadow Ball easily. Ghost and Fairy is only resisted by lolPyroar and a special defense lowering chance is miles better than a flinch chance which you can never make use of thanks to shitty speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 08:44:07 No.21685625 Report

Quoted By: >>21686732 >>21686788

i hate fighting low ladder
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/orasou-183367072
this guy had a Mix scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 11:59:58 No.21686506 Report

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>>21679078
Just having fun with Lopunny there, thanks for the help! What's a better set anyway, replace Sub with Fire Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 12:43:24 No.21686732 Report

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>>21685625
ladder is weird :I

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 12:58:15 No.21686788 Report

Quoted By: >>21687714

>>21685625
You switched a lot more than you needed to and took a lot of unnecessary damage, even losing a few pokes to it. Luckily that guy's team was incredibly weak to MegaDos so you managed alright, but you might want to work on prediction a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 14:08:21 No.21687154 Report

Quoted By: >>21688358

>>21678998
I forget Hoopa H's stats, but isn't it pretty fast

Fuzzywobbles 0361-7602-3412

Fuzzywobbles 0361-7602-3412 Thu 13 Nov 2014 14:19:17 No.21687226 Report

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>>21685224
I can survive enough with the Def EV's, but I'll change it if I decide to move to Singles. I didn't think about Sleep Powder, that could work as well. And Solar Beam is on my Charizard Y.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 14:57:30 No.21687449 Report

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So I haven't really played on showdown since MMawile got banned to ubers. What are the common threats and sets in ORAS-OU?

So far I only know of the sub MSalamence set and calm mind MSlowbro. Anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 15:23:02 No.21687656 Report

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I know it's too early to talk about ORAS Ubers, but what do you think about this weird set I thought of?

Xerneas @ Power Herb
EVs: 104 HP / 28 Def / 252 SAtk / 124 Spe (copied from smogon, might be a better spread for this)
Modest Nature
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Thunder
- Wonder Room

Wonder Room swaps Defense and Special Defense of every pokémon in field, meaning it can open new holes for GeoXern to penetrate into. Namely, 252/252+ (Bold, as in worst-case scenario) Chansey has a 87,5% chance to be OHKO'ed with +2 Moonblast after SR (SpDef Variants are clean OHKO'ed). While Thunder failed to OHKO by an inch defensive Ho-Oh and Kyogre normally, it's now easily done under Wonder Room.
You might say that Skarmory would become a huge threat because Wonder Room gives it a newfound special bulk, but Thunder still OHKO'es it after SR, dealing 90% minimum to 248/252+ Skarm

Notice that Wonder Room is merely a situational move, and not intended to be used every match, especially because it requires another setup turn. But it seems to fare well with its role of a wallbreaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 15:27:17 No.21687714 Report

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>>21686788
Yeah im a little rusty trying to get back into things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 15:30:27 No.21687751 Report

Quoted By: >>21688490

>>21675978
Chansey can handle low kick unless Greninja goes full physical (aka full retard)

Chansey can't handle spikes Greninja just throwing layer after layer of shit on the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 16:32:48 No.21688358 Report

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>>21687154
80 base speed isn't fast. Not even fast enough for Trick Room either. It needs Sticky Web or a Scarf or it's going to get it's shit wrecked by every fast physical attacker ever. Which is ALLOT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 16:44:03 No.21688490 Report

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>>21687751
But can it handle Gunk Shot?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 16:56:18 No.21688616 Report

Quoted By: >>21688673 >>21688684 >>21688711 >>21689962

Sup guys, I'd like to hear what you think about my new team. These are all original sets so please don't steal them.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 17:02:22 No.21688673 Report

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>>21688616
>Sludge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 17:03:37 No.21688684 Report

Quoted By: >>21688711

>>21688616
how does greninja learn gunk shot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 17:07:07 No.21688711 Report

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>>21688684
Oras
>>21688616
Keked at momentum-therian

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 19:12:15 No.21689944 Report

Quoted By: >>21689955 >>21690469

Would you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 19:13:00 No.21689955 Report

Quoted By: >>21690469

>>21689944
Who dat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 19:13:46 No.21689962 Report

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>>21688616
>Sludge
>U-Turn

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 19:14:27 No.21689967 Report

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How does one go around using Volcanion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 19:52:49 No.21690469 Report

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>>21689944
>>21689955
Check em for ego

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