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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:43:11 No.21675982 View View Reply Original Report

ok /vp/ it's time to buff some shitty moves, i'll start:

>Comet Punch
>Steel type
>25 BP 100% acc

>Fire Spin/Whirpool/Sand Tomb
>45 BP 90% acc

>Fell Stinger
>60 BP 100% acc

>Shadow Punch
>75 BP cannot miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:46:25 No.21676015 Report

Quoted By: >>21676098

Razor Wind
100% chance to cause flinching.
>Power Herb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:56:51 No.21676098 Report

Quoted By: >>21676855

>>21676015
would it be really worth running on Heliolisk instead of Hyper Voice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 18:57:29 No.21676105 Report

Quoted By: >>21676196 >>21676814 >>21676832

Incinerate
65 BP
Power doubles if it destroys a berry, like Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:07:24 No.21676196 Report

Quoted By: >>21676204

>>21676105
>destroy berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:08:51 No.21676204 Report

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>>21676196
>le ebin meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:07:19 No.21676767 Report

Quoted By: >>21676804

Flower Shield only boosts the user's and a Grass typed ally's physical defence. Now Florges can be a mixed wall in singles and doubles while also buffing a grass typed partner. This move had the potential to be great but was poorly executed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:10:15 No.21676804 Report

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>>21676767
>repeating sets of integers

nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:11:55 No.21676814 Report

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>>21676105
DESTROY BERRY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:15:00 No.21676832 Report

Quoted By: >>21676882

>>21676105
why not just make it a fire type special version of knock off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:17:56 No.21676855 Report

Quoted By: >>21676924 >>21676954

>>21676098
Doesn't lean hyper voice (maybe it does for move tutors)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:20:57 No.21676882 Report

Quoted By: >>21678617

>>21676832
>What is Nevermeltice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:21:58 No.21676886 Report

Quoted By: >>21678756 >>21679010

>Surf
>-- power
>30% accuracy
>Water-type OHKO move. Drowns the opponent. Fire, ground, grass, and rock-types cannot be healed after battle.

Ymir

Ymir Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:23:20 No.21676898 Report

Quoted By: >>21676966 >>21677248 >>21677647

Metal Claw
Power and PP stay the same, but the Attack boost chance is 100%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:23:24 No.21676899 Report

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>Jump Kick
>100 base power
>95% acc
>If it misses, recoil damage is 1/2 of your current HP instead of max HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:24:39 No.21676924 Report

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>>21676855
it does

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:27:27 No.21676954 Report

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>>21676855
Yep it does in ORAS tutors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:28:25 No.21676966 Report

Quoted By: >>21677012

>>21676898
So much this. Make Charge Beam, PuPunch and Flame charge the same.

>50bp 90acc, Bug type Bonemerang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:35:41 No.21677012 Report

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>>21676966
Meant to say Twineedle for that last point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:02:14 No.21677248 Report

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>>21676898
Scizor would love this, although SD+Bullet Punch is still better sadly. Maybe it could work with Assault Vest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:51:16 No.21677647 Report

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>>21676898
isn't 100% a little bit toom much? i'd say 70% just like Charge Beam (also increase the acc of charge beam to 95% instead of 90%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:13:58 No.21678573 Report

Quoted By: >>21678776 >>21679005

>>21675982
Woah, woah, just let the trapping move have 95 acc and keep the 30BP damage.
Also Fell Stinger should stick at 50 for more balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:17:19 No.21678617 Report

Quoted By: >>21678656

>>21676882
holy shit nevermeltice
why haven't they retconned that shitty name yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:19:54 No.21678656 Report

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>>21678617
>forgetting hard rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:27:24 No.21678756 Report

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>>21676886
The thread is about making shit moves good, not the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:29:30 No.21678776 Report

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>>21678573
>Also Fell Stinger should stick at 50 for more balance

yeah gotta be careful with all those Kricketunes flying around m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:30:51 No.21678790 Report

Quoted By: >>21678807

Feint
60BP
50% Damage boost if used on a protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:32:27 No.21678807 Report

Quoted By: >>21678829

>>21678790
oh, forgot to say that it doesn't get +2 priority anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:32:42 No.21678810 Report

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Gravity/trick room/weather etc. Last 8 turns in singles, 5 in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:34:14 No.21678829 Report

Quoted By: >>21678852

>>21678807
>it doesn't get +2 priority anymore.
And like that you lost me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:36:16 No.21678852 Report

Quoted By: >>21678870

>>21678829
A 60BP move with +2 priority on Aerilate Pincir that also goes through protect for a damage boost would be insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:37:46 No.21678870 Report

Quoted By: >>21678924

>>21678852
then leave it 30BP, you only get the boost from protect and that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:39:30 No.21678899 Report

Quoted By: >>21678945

>Meteor Mash
>130 Base Power
>30% to raise attack 1 stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:41:08 No.21678924 Report

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>>21678870
OK, make it a bigger boost then when going through protect - like 2x or even 3x Damage or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:42:32 No.21678945 Report

Quoted By: >>21678987 >>21679000 >>21679092

>>21678899
It doesn't need to be that high. It could have stayed at 100/85% instead of being nerfed to 90/90%, and it would have been a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:42:59 No.21678949 Report

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Make meditate also increase special defense one stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:45:53 No.21678987 Report

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>>21678945

But Steel is shit offensively... And Psychic is somehow worse.

>Sacred Fire Metagross when

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:46:45 No.21679000 Report

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>>21678945
or at 100/100% since even then EQ would be a better stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:47:01 No.21679005 Report

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>>21678573
at last my sand tomb hippowdon is viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:47:20 No.21679010 Report

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>>21676886
There are some pokemon that dont get hydro pump nor scald

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:52:46 No.21679092 Report

Quoted By: >>21679130 >>21679705

>>21678945
There was no fucking reason to nerf Meteor Mash in the first place, the move is limited to 3 pokemon including events and only ONE of those 3 pokemon uses it, and only because it gets STAB on it.

Crabhammer got buffed to 100 BP 90% accuracy, why couldn't Meteor Mash be the same? It's not like steel is such a good STAB.

Screencap this post, the day Lucario gets Meteor Mash is the day where gamefreak buffs Meteor Mash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:56:19 No.21679130 Report

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>>21679092
it wasn't neither buffed or nerfed, the power decresed and the accuracy increased, it's a 50/50
altough it wouldn't have been better if it got boosted like Crabhammer did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 23:59:38 No.21679172 Report

Quoted By: >>21679284

It lost 10 power and gained 5 accuracy.
It's damage output decreased by almost 5%, factoring in accuracy. It was a nerf. The way it is, it's in contention with iron head, which is awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:09:25 No.21679284 Report

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>>21679172
Don't remind me, if Meteor Mash hadn't got nerfed with Tough Claws it'd be:

>100 x 1.5 x 1.33

199 BP, almost the double

But instead it is:

>90 x 1.5 x 1.33

179 BP ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:35:25 No.21679645 Report

Quoted By: >>21679690 >>21679721 >>21679784 >>21679809

Dragon Rush and Iron Tail

> Accuracy increased from 75 to 90

Inferno and Zap Cannon

>Accuracy increased from 50 to 75

Meteor Mash

> power increased from 90 to 120

Hyper Beam variants

> doesn't need to recharge if it KOes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:38:41 No.21679690 Report

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>>21679645

>tfw I didn't know Inferno existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:39:43 No.21679705 Report

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>>21679092

because for some reason Gamefreak believes that Metagross is hella broken, and still is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:40:52 No.21679721 Report

Quoted By: >>21679803

>>21679645
>that hyper beam buff

Thanks for boosting mega mence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:45:17 No.21679784 Report

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>>21679645
WE GEN 1 NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:47:12 No.21679803 Report

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>>21679721

I'm not sure there is a single pokemon in the game that could take a physical attack from Megamence followed by Hyper Beam, especially at +1 attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:47:47 No.21679809 Report

Quoted By: >>21679866

>>21679645

cont

Stone Edge and Cross Chop

>acc increased from 80 to 90

Focus Miss

>acc increased from 70 to 85

Shadow Force, Sky Attack, Ice Burn/Shock, Sky Attack

> base power increased to 180

Tri Attack

> BP increased to 120 and now has a 30% chance to freeze/burn/paralyze (10% each)

Techno Blast

> power increased from 120 to 140

Punishment

> power now 80 x (20 x number of stat changes)

Revenge

> power increased from 60 to 90

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:51:57 No.21679866 Report

Quoted By: >>21679877

>>21679809

Fuck no. If anything Focus Blast needs to go to 60 acc. I hate the fact that physically frail special attackers can get past Ttar thanks to this attack. To 60, maybe 50%, to give a little buff to a failing pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 00:53:03 No.21679877 Report

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>>21679866

see:

Stone Edge and Cross Chop

>acc increased from 80 to 90

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