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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:10:23 No.21676220 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21676233 >>21676377 >>21676523 >>21676863 >>21677069

>This gets knock off now
>Nothing switches in anymore
>This comes in safely
What do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:12:03 No.21676233 Report

Quoted By: >>21676463

>>21676220
It becomes OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:13:04 No.21676243 Report

Quoted By: >>21676256 >>21676330 >>21676627 >>21676651 >>21677190

whats some good team mates for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:14:23 No.21676251 Report

Quoted By: >>21676309

Send in Lando-T.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:14:50 No.21676256 Report

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>>21676243

5 Diggersby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:15:47 No.21676264 Report

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I would send in the therian forme of Landorus holding a choice scarf, then have it use U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:17:17 No.21676275 Report

Quoted By: >>21676309 >>21676311 >>21676316 >>21676357 >>21676371

Heatran walls the hell out of it. Return won't do shit to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:20:40 No.21676309 Report

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>>21676251
>>21676251
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 0 HP / 0+ Def Landorus-T: 214-253 (67 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Landorus-T: 166-196 (43.4 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>>21676275
....nigger wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:20:58 No.21676311 Report

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>>21676275
>Heatran walling anything with Huge Power STAB Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:21:21 No.21676316 Report

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>>21676275
252+ Atk Huge Power Diggersby Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 808-952 (209.8 - 247.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:22:29 No.21676330 Report

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>>21676243
Clerics
Latias
Heatran
Aerodactyl
Tyranitar
Not all at the same time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:24:35 No.21676357 Report

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>>21676275
guaranteedreplies.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:25:56 No.21676367 Report

Quoted By: >>21677001

Use a better Pokémon. Anything but that. This is the signature reason why Gen 6 mons suck balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:26:11 No.21676371 Report

Quoted By: >>21676383

>>21676275
I know this is bait but

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 153-181 (39.7 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

clean 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:26:59 No.21676377 Report

Quoted By: >>21676410

>>21676220
Predict? Yeah it's good, but it's not like it can take a whole lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:27:16 No.21676383 Report

Quoted By: >>21676646

>>21676371
Heatran can WoW the fucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:28:13 No.21676398 Report

Quoted By: >>21676597 >>21676638

It had Wild Charge before, nothing except really niche things like Bronzong or Missy were able to switch in.

It's still pretty slow, at any rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:29:35 No.21676410 Report

Quoted By: >>21676477

>>21676377
>Comes in safely
Yeah, it has the def of a wet paper towel, but once its in dont you just play a game of what dies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:30:49 No.21676419 Report

Quoted By: >>21676514 >>21676582

It really won't hold a candle to OU, not with the plethora of new Megas that aren't phased by its Knock Off.
Sceptile, Lopunny, Gallade, not to mention Salamence the forbidden one.
Even Sharpedo can wreck that reject Simpsons character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:34:40 No.21676463 Report

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>>21676233
5% of usage now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:37:09 No.21676477 Report

Quoted By: >>21676582

>>21676410
I mean, its pretty slow so they're basically taking a similar risk every time they bring it in. It's good, but not having true counters doesn't make it unbeatable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:42:34 No.21676514 Report

Quoted By: >>21678035

>>21676419
Would Lopunny work well with Diggersby at all on a team? I just like thematically having the two of them on one team but I don't know if its a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:43:26 No.21676523 Report

Quoted By: >>21676543

>>21676220
Seems like you need to switch in something with Focus Sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:44:46 No.21676543 Report

Quoted By: >>21676567

>>21676523
secretive boulders

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:46:50 No.21676567 Report

Quoted By: >>21676580

>>21676543
You can switch in Alakazam with sash and OHKO it with Focus Hit :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:47:39 No.21676580 Report

Quoted By: >>21676793

>>21676567
>Sash Alakazam
Is this gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:47:42 No.21676582 Report

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>>21676477
Oh no not saying its unbeatable. Im saying I can no longer sleep at night with this thing around.
>>21676419
how is taking 50+% "not phased by?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:49:03 No.21676597 Report

Quoted By: >>21676620

>>21676398
>mentioning Mismagius in an OU context at all when Gengar exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:51:27 No.21676620 Report

Quoted By: >>21676739

>>21676597
Gengar is KOed by Wild Charge. And I mean Eviolite Misdreavus. It's a thing people used when Diggersby was allowed in UU some months back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:52:03 No.21676627 Report

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>>21676243
Azumarill
Mega Lopunny
Three other rabbit-like Pokemon of your choosing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:53:46 No.21676638 Report

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>>21676398
trade evolved diggersby that keeps huge power with increases in atk and spe when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:54:38 No.21676646 Report

Quoted By: >>21676683 >>21676752

>>21676383
Heatran is both outsped and still OHKO'd after the WoW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:54:59 No.21676651 Report

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>>21676243
im using azumarill, gengar and lati to cover its weaknesses

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 19:58:20 No.21676683 Report

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>>21676646
>Responding

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:04:32 No.21676739 Report

Quoted By: >>21676769

>>21676620
Oh I see. What would one give up though for Wild Charge? Quick Atk, EQ, Return and U turn are 4 slots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:06:03 No.21676752 Report

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>>21676646
Responding to shitposting is still shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:07:23 No.21676769 Report

Quoted By: >>21676857

>>21676739
I gave up u-turn, I for one already have volt turners, but my only real answer to skarmory was analytic magnezone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:09:25 No.21676793 Report

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>>21676580
No, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:11:13 No.21676808 Report

Quoted By: >>21676870 >>21676927

If you are afraid on enemy diggersby send in Azumarill and use Aqua Jet. Also don't be a dumbass and use Sap Sipper Azumarill, otherwise you won't get the OHKO.

When using Diggersby, send in a ghost or faerie if you need to cover fighting weakness, or a bulky Dragon if you need to cover grass/water weakness. Salamence works too since he resists all three and has intimidate, but he might be going to ubers, so Dragonite might be a more feasible option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:18:04 No.21676857 Report

Quoted By: >>21676971

>>21676769
I guess Knock Off would now optimally be in Wild Charge's place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:18:26 No.21676863 Report

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>>21676220
A ton of other Pokemon got Drain Punch and Ice Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:19:05 No.21676870 Report

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>>21676808
252+ Atk Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 259-306 (64.5 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Diggersby is faster so Quick Attack finishes Azu off before it can do anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:24:46 No.21676927 Report

Quoted By: >>21676971

>>21676808
Azumarill will never OHKO with aqua jet unless it's banded, and that's only sometimes. Azumarill cant swotch in either, since Return + Quick Attack kills it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:29:01 No.21676971 Report

Quoted By: >>21677066

>>21676857
yup. Trading coverage for best/worst move in the game
>>21676927
Actually for the standard spreads, banded diggersby has a better chance of knocking out azumarill with return than Banded Azumarill knocking it out with aqua jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:33:39 No.21677001 Report

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>>21676367
guaranteed replies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:39:25 No.21677040 Report

Quoted By: >>21677113

>Not running Hawlucha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:42:26 No.21677066 Report

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>>21676971
Okay, so you said something, I reply proving you wromg, then you reply saying something vompletely irrelevant to what I said. You don't seem very smart anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:43:10 No.21677069 Report

Quoted By: >>21677082 >>21677120

>>21676220
>yfw we live in a time where the regional bird and rodent are big threats at the height of the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:44:40 No.21677082 Report

Quoted By: >>21677099 >>21677120

>>21677069
Gen 1 and 2 and kind of four and definitely 5 a shit. swellow, linoone, and staraptor are pretty gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:47:20 No.21677099 Report

Quoted By: >>21677130

>>21677082
Reminder that Moody BIDOOF, let alone Bibarel, is Ubers.
Gen 4 isn't shit at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:49:52 No.21677113 Report

Quoted By: >>21677147

>>21677040
We're talking about things that switch in though, not what can just swoop in after to deal with it or else there would be a lot of options.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:50:56 No.21677120 Report

Quoted By: >>21677145

>>21677082
Linoone a shit, swellow a shit but still usable against noobish teams with no reliable fly spam checks, staraptor is gen 4.
>>21677069
mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:51:29 No.21677130 Report

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>>21677099
It would be ubers, but they decided that banning moody us the best way of dealing with it, rather than banning bidoof. Also, moody is banned from ubers too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:52:57 No.21677145 Report

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>>21677120
I know staraptor is gen 4. I was saying gen 4 was kind of shit in that regard since staraptor is great but bibarel is shit. Also, linoone has a niche in even RU, its not bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:53:07 No.21677147 Report

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>>21677113
And the only thing barring ubers that can safely switch in to this is (And not really tbh) is hippowdon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:53:30 No.21677151 Report

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Mega Slowbro.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 20:57:35 No.21677190 Report

Quoted By: >>21677215

>>21676243

2 loppuny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:00:27 No.21677215 Report

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>>21677190
inb4 "Would you a loppuny"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:03:21 No.21677262 Report

Quoted By: >>21677289

Does this fucker also get drain punch?

Might make a good ass vest user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:06:35 No.21677289 Report

Quoted By: >>21677355 >>21677555

>>21677262
Nope

> Diggersby: Super Fang, Iron Head, Bounce, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Earth Power, Foul Play, Last Resort, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Focus Punch, Gastro Acid, Endeavor, Recycle, Snatch, Endure

> http://pastebin.com/8rbu6Fmp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:13:26 No.21677355 Report

Quoted By: >>21677391 >>21677413 >>21677457 >>21677500

>>21677289
Would Return/EQ/Knock off/Fire punch be a good set for it?

Lets it hit stuff like mamo on the switch and means it can threaten scizor and help it with grass types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:17:55 No.21677391 Report

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>>21677355
No. mamo dies to stab, even bulky scizor is 2hko by eq, and the most prevalent grass type in ou will still be mega ven-taking fire type attacks neutrally

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:20:26 No.21677413 Report

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>>21677355
I haven't used mine since the beginning of gen 6, but I'd EQ/knock off/ice punch/return or quick attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:26:02 No.21677457 Report

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>>21677355
looks good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:30:04 No.21677500 Report

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>>21677355
Fire punch does the same amount ti mamoswine as earthquake and slightly less than return. Who's switching mamoswine into diggersby anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:38:43 No.21677555 Report

Quoted By: >>21677715 >>21678086

>>21677289
Is that a list of the moves they learn via ORAS tutors?

>inb4 newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 21:58:12 No.21677715 Report

Quoted By:

>>21677555
yep
fuckin newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 22:29:25 No.21678035 Report

Quoted By: >>21678083

>>21676514
>Fat Bugs and Pantyhose Lola
>Being useful together
Full Space Jam team when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 22:33:59 No.21678083 Report

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>>21678035
talonflame as tweety boid
raikou as sylvester
Emboar as porky
darmanitan as taz
Lets do this
emboar as porky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Nov 2014 22:34:21 No.21678086 Report

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>>21677555
The link to it is literally in the post you quoted. How can anyone be this fucking stupid?

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