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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:46:01 No.21682752 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21682764 >>21682786 >>21682795 >>21682804 >>21682815 >>21682831 >>21682848 >>21682855 >>21683095 >>21683218 >>21683430 >>21688109

HOW DO I COUNTER MINIMIZE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:46:45 No.21682764 Report

Quoted By: >>21682801 >>21692719

>>21682752
scrappy miltank w body slam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:47:41 No.21682786 Report

Quoted By: >>21692719

>>21682752
No Guard Machamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:48:02 No.21682795 Report

Quoted By: >>21692719

>>21682752
Destiny bond works great for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:48:19 No.21682801 Report

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>>21682764
COME ONE AND SLAM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:48:22 No.21682804 Report

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>>21682752
SD BP UT Aerial Ace Scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:49:00 No.21682815 Report

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>>21682752
I use defog multiple times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:49:44 No.21682831 Report

Quoted By: >>21682901 >>21682906 >>21683179 >>21684332

>>21682752
Use Phantom Force. It's base power doubles on targets who use Minimize, and if the target is Normal Type, use Trick or Treat. Gourgeist can do both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:49:54 No.21682837 Report

Quoted By: >>21682986 >>21683038 >>21692719

Foresight
Haze
Lock On
Sweet Scent
No Guard
Psych Up
Not being a shit and knocking the foe out before their evasion gets too high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:50:20 No.21682848 Report

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>>21682752
Play against an adult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:50:40 No.21682855 Report

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>>21682752
Just use Aura Sphere, that's all you have to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:53:07 No.21682901 Report

Quoted By: >>21683092

>>21682831

Really? That's odd

But the important thing is, can phantom force MISS? If it can, they can easily sub up and stack evasions every other turn, so that's a pretty shitty counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:53:23 No.21682906 Report

Quoted By: >>21683054

>>21682831
It would still be immune to Phantom Force because Trick-or-Treat adds Ghost, not replace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 03:57:40 No.21682986 Report

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>>21682837
Literally that last one. I keep finding cancer players (especially Japs) who bring out Minimize Chansey, Blissey, and Drifblim, and I just kill them asap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:00:21 No.21683038 Report

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>>21682837
>Not being a shit and knocking the foe out before their evasion gets too high

Do you know what luck is? If the opponent uses one double team and you get unlucky, then they get 2 double teams. You try again and they are more likely to dodge again so that's three double teams. At this point even if you hit it's a miracle which probably won't happen again and they probably have substitute up anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:01:08 No.21683054 Report

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>>21682906
Oh shit, nevermind then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:01:42 No.21683075 Report

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>decide to play battle spot to see what it's like
>minimize/stockpile driflblm with baton pass
>passes to belly drum snorlax

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:02:20 No.21683092 Report

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>>21682901

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:02:25 No.21683095 Report

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>>21682752
But minimize is banned, you don't need to counter it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:02:49 No.21683105 Report

Quoted By: >>21683136

Uh... Taunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:03:50 No.21683115 Report

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Steamroller

stomp

Haze

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:05:36 No.21683136 Report

Quoted By: >>21683207

>>21683105

>the taunt missed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:08:54 No.21683179 Report

Quoted By: >>21683196

>>21682831
how i'm gonna kill Minimize Chansey with Phantom Force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:09:48 No.21683196 Report

Quoted By: >>21683204 >>21683209 >>21692719

>>21683179

mold breaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:10:30 No.21683202 Report

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>>21683038
Shit happens, but unless you're using low accuracy moves, you still have a really good chance of hitting them at two double teams. They could also score a critical hit and knock you out. Just part of the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:10:46 No.21683204 Report

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>>21683196
Are you fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:11:01 No.21683207 Report

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>>21683136
No, like, before the shit gets out of hand, use taunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:11:01 No.21683208 Report

Quoted By: >>21692719

Stomp
Steamroller
Dragon Rush
Phantom Force
Body Slam
Some others I forgot

All get 100% accuracy and doubled power against minimized targets

Alternatively

Haze and Clear Smog to reset stat changes

Alternatively

Use Taunt

Alternatively

Use a Pokemon with No Guard

Alternatively

Use one of the many moves that doesn't require accuracy checks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:11:02 No.21683209 Report

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>>21683196
I'd be the guy to use Soak then Phantom Force or something. Not like the opponent would switch after setting up those Minimizes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:11:54 No.21683218 Report

Quoted By: >>21683384 >>21692719

>>21682752
Scarf Golurk

Earthquake
Stone edge
Dynamic punch
Filler like ice punch or phantom force, wouldn't recommend pf if they use baton pass + subs

Scarf Machamp is lovely too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:21:18 No.21683384 Report

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>>21683218
No Guard Machamp with Dynamic Punch is serious fucking business.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 04:24:23 No.21683430 Report

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>>21682752
Fortify agility and don't let your fatigue get low.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 05:28:54 No.21684275 Report

Quoted By: >>21685544

o hai

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 05:33:30 No.21684332 Report

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>>21682831
>and if the target is Normal Type, use Trick or Treat.
Normal/ghost is still immune to phantom force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 06:25:49 No.21684746 Report

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You could have something setting up sub, bulk up, calm mind, maybe even dragon dance etc. and wait until you inevitably get a crit. They may be evasive but you're almost definitely going to hit and kill them before they kill you, given it caps at 3x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 08:31:16 No.21685544 Report

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>>21684275

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 08:53:08 No.21685655 Report

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>Ctrl + F
>no Roar
Really?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 16:09:54 No.21688109 Report

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>>21682752
>if its a fairy fucker
Use magnet bomb with metal coat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 18:39:39 No.21689553 Report

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>>21682986
>cancer players
>legitimate strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2014 23:21:42 No.21692719 Report

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>>21682786
>>21682764
>>21682795
>>21682837
>>21683208
>>21683218

ayy

>>21683196
bait

Does anyone know if Lock-On bypasses sub?

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