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Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:03:01 No.21723767 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21723875 >>21726004 >>21732792

So, do you think Kyogre and Groudon will maintain their catch rate of 5, or will Gamefreak babyfy them, too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:05:00 No.21723785 Report

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>you missed the Pokémon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:12:36 No.21723875 Report

Quoted By: >>21723896 >>21723918

>>21723767
How do you babyfy something that never took skill in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:14:33 No.21723896 Report

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>>21723875
Oh look, someone who argues and nitpicks everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:15:29 No.21723906 Report

Quoted By: >>21725990

I remember the Regis being some of the hardest catches I ever made in any Pokemon game.

I expect the whole Regi side quest thing to be simplified so you don't even need Relicanth & Wailord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:17:49 No.21723918 Report

Quoted By: >>21724071 >>21724125 >>21724301 >>21724348

>>21723875
It's not a matter of skill, it's just that Gamefreak has been making legendaries ridiculously easy to capture. Xerneas and Yveltal have a catch rate of 45. It is actually harder to catch a Chatot than the symbols of death and life.
Shouldn't the Gods of Pokemon be kind of hard to obtain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:25:25 No.21724000 Report

Quoted By: >>21724051

They left Ho-oH and Lugia online in Hg/Ss so I doubt it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:31:48 No.21724051 Report

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>>21724000
Hell, I was surprised they left the ability to get the other legendary in via the NPC in Pewter City.

Better question is, are they going to make getting the Master Ball easier instead of it being a item in the Magma/Aqua base that you can easily miss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:33:59 No.21724071 Report

Quoted By: >>21724227 >>21724327

>>21723918

>Xerneas and Yveltal have a catch rate of 45

That's not even the worst part. If you accidentally knock them out, they give you another chance with a bullshit reason

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Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:36:12 No.21724087 Report

Quoted By: >>21732599

Has it been confirmed if Kyogre and Groudon are exclusives or if it's just the megastones? since HG/SS let you catch both cover mascots.

Also Serebii still hasn't updated their page with Lati@s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:40:39 No.21724125 Report

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>>21723918
You have to take into account if catching the legendary is part of the "story." It would suck if you couldn't progress because you were stuck with no pokeballs. That would be bad game design and wouldn't match up with the simplicity and ease of the rest of the required parts. In-game they can rationalize it as "oh that legendary was just testing to see if you are worthy instead of actively resisting you."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 08:54:44 No.21724227 Report

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>>21724071
Are there really people who don't auto reset if they knock them out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 09:10:09 No.21724301 Report

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>>21723918
The new legends have an excuse because you're forced to catch them in the first place.

Meanwhile thr postgame legendaries like Zygarde still have a proper catchrate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 09:14:53 No.21724327 Report

Quoted By: >>21724351

>>21724071
That's fine with me. I didn't want to watch that cut scene 100 times soft resetting for a Xerneas with good IVs and the right nature. After you knock it out the first time, it's just like legendaries from past games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 09:19:17 No.21724348 Report

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>>21723918
No, they've been making COVER legendaries ridiculously easy to capture. Kyurem and Zygarde both have catch rates of 3. It's just the plot-mandated cover legendaries.

They also didn't up catch rates for lugia or ho-oh

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Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 09:19:47 No.21724351 Report

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>>21724327
>Deoxys Event will have a cutscene before the Space Battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 14:09:58 No.21725990 Report

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>>21723906
braille puzzle is confirmed back, i see no reason why theyd include that and not the random-ass shit you had to do to unlock them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 14:12:21 No.21726004 Report

Quoted By: >>21726079 >>21726095

>>21723767
Didn't the data mine confirm Rayquaza now has a 45 catch rate or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 14:23:15 No.21726079 Report

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>>21726004
God damn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 14:25:30 No.21726094 Report

Quoted By: >>21729157

This is, without a doubt, the single dumbest thing /vp/ has whined about over gen VI.

It was never hard before, it was just a tedious monotony of throwing a ball and it breaking until RNG threw you a bone. That shit ain't fun, it sucks.

At least with the high catch rates you can get story based ones over with. If you like them high for that artificial difficulty, fine. But non-box legends are still boring (hard) to catch so have at them and stop whining about "muh 5 catchrate"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 14:25:48 No.21726095 Report

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>>21726004
It seems like it'll be necessary to the post game. Of course they're gonna be babyfying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 19:05:46 No.21729157 Report

Quoted By: >>21729491

>>21726094
So, why don't we make every pokemon have a catch rate of 255? It'll help fix the tedious monotony, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 19:27:58 No.21729491 Report

Quoted By: >>21732798

>>21729157
At least demon negotiation in SMT is fun.

Anonymous !t.3fxzeyWo

Anonymous !t.3fxzeyWo Sun 16 Nov 2014 19:32:00 No.21729538 Report

Quoted By: >>21732156 >>21732195 >>21732215

From the ORAS demo files (NOTE: Tutors is only special move tutors, didn't bother to run the version of my parser that includes other tutor sources):

Index: 382 - Kyogre
Stats: 100/100/90/150/140/90
Type: Water/Water
Catchrate: 3
Stage: 3
EV Yield: 0/0/0/3/0/0
Item1: None
Item2: None
Item3: None
Gender: 255
Hatch: 120
Friend: 0
EXP Rate: 5
EggGr1: 15
EggGr2: 15
Abil0: Drizzle
Abil1: Drizzle
AbilH: Drizzle
EscRt: 0
AltFrmIDs: 812
AltFrmSpri: 76
FrmCount: 2
Color: 1
BaseXP: 302
Height: 4.5 m
Weight: 352.0 kg
TM/HM: 04, 05, 06, 07, 10, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 24, 25, 26, 27, 31, 32, 39, 42, 44, 48, 55, 68, 73, 77, 78, 80, 87, 88, 90, 94, 100, HM03, HM04, HM05, HM06, HM07,
Tutors: None
==
Index: 383 - Groudon
Stats: 100/150/140/100/90/90
Type: Ground/Ground
Catchrate: 3
Stage: 3
EV Yield: 0/3/0/0/0/0
Item1: None
Item2: None
Item3: None
Gender: 255
Hatch: 120
Friend: 0
EXP Rate: 5
EggGr1: 15
EggGr2: 15
Abil0: Drought
Abil1: Drought
AbilH: Drought
EscRt: 0
AltFrmIDs: 813
AltFrmSpri: 77
FrmCount: 2
Color: 0
BaseXP: 302
Height: 3.5 m
Weight: 950.0 kg
TM/HM: 01, 02, 05, 06, 08, 10, 11, 15, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 48, 50, 52, 56, 59, 65, 68, 69, 71, 73, 75, 77, 78, 80, 82, 87, 88, 90, 94, 98, 100, HM01, HM04, HM06,
Tutors: None
==
Index: 384 - Rayquaza
Stats: 105/150/90/150/90/95
Type: Dragon/Flying
Catchrate: 45
Stage: 3
EV Yield: 0/2/0/1/0/0
Item1: None
Item2: None
Item3: None
Gender: 255
Hatch: 120
Friend: 0
EXP Rate: 5
EggGr1: 15
EggGr2: 15
Abil0: Air Lock
Abil1: Air Lock
AbilH: Air Lock
EscRt: 0
AltFrmIDs: 814
AltFrmSpri: 78
FrmCount: 2
Color: 3
BaseXP: 306
Height: 7.0 m
Weight: 206.5 kg
TM/HM: 01, 02, 05, 06, 08, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 31, 32, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 48, 49, 50, 52, 53, 56, 58, 59, 65, 68, 71, 73, 74, 75, 77, 78, 80, 82, 87, 88, 90, 94, 100, HM02, HM03, HM04, HM05, HM06, HM07,
Tutors: Draco Meteor, Dragon's Ascent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:26:06 No.21732156 Report

Quoted By: >>21732602

>>21729538
>Groudon/Kyogre Catchrate: 3
Lower than before. Cool.

>Rayquaza Catchrate: 45
What... Just like Zekrom and Reshiram, Xerneas and Yveltal
He must be a required capture during the plot to make it so fucking easy. I suppose it has to do with the Delta Episode. Kinda sucks, but whatever. Rayquayquay was a bitch to catch having Rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:29:06 No.21732195 Report

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>>21729538
I've been suspecting based on cutscene footage we've seen before that we may be facing Primal Groudon/Primal Kyogre in the wild. Mind if you run the parser on those, too?

Tripfag !SxsiX2hack

Tripfag !SxsiX2hack Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:30:00 No.21732215 Report

Quoted By: >>21732339

>>21729538
>Rayquaza catchrate: 45
Fucking why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:32:04 No.21732259 Report

Quoted By: >>21732350

it take some real intense autism to care this much about slight RNG changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:37:13 No.21732339 Report

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>>21732215

Just catch it with Nest Balls only

difficulty restored

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:37:55 No.21732350 Report

Quoted By: >>21732447

>>21732259
It's noticable. It can take me a lot of Ultra/Dusk balls worth of time to catch a Gen III/IV legendary, but I could catch Xerneas or Yveltal in about only a couple Ultra Balls easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:43:01 No.21732447 Report

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>>21732350
I used Poison Jab on a Xerneas got it to a little over half still in green and threw a regular pokeball at it and caught it. Really disappointed that it was that easy.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:50:12 No.21732590 Report

Quoted By: >>21732811

Since we're talking ORAS and Legends

Is it confirmed that you can catch all the legends? Or is it just one based on version/starter?

Because I fucking love catching legendaries and this game has a shit ton of them. Hope they have a proper catchrate too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:50:49 No.21732599 Report

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>>21724087
HG/SS only had both because GS had both.

RS didn't. So ORAS won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 22:51:23 No.21732602 Report

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>>21732156
>Accidentally knock out Rayquaza
>Meteor collides with the earth, killing everything
Okay, this is the one time that the low catch rate makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 23:03:43 No.21732792 Report

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>>21723767

>i like spending hours chucking Pokeballs at data

why do people like this exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 23:03:53 No.21732798 Report

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>>21729491

>trial and error is more fun than trial and error guis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Nov 2014 23:04:50 No.21732811 Report

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>>21732590

Between Omega Ruby, Alpha Sapphire and X or Y, you will be able to catch all non-event legendaries.

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