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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:35:51 No.21824973 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21824988 >>21824992 >>21825035 >>21825266

Holy fuck. Dont tell me they actually cut off BF from ORAS to implement in the next installment? What the fuck? Are we EA tier now?

If they will do something like this, nothing can stop them from cutting off Distortion World from DP remakes etc. Basically we are fucked as fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:36:57 No.21824986 Report

Quoted By: >>21825519

Don't worry, that's not why they cut it out. They simply aren't going to include it in any game again.

Please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:37:04 No.21824988 Report

Quoted By: >>21825019 >>21825258

>>21824973
Can this "Where mah BF" meme just stop.
or at least just stay in one thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:37:22 No.21824992 Report

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>>21824973
Yes, they did.
It's going to be a 59.99 DLC pack along with new megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:39:31 No.21825019 Report

Quoted By: >>21825640

>>21824988
It's not a meme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:41:23 No.21825035 Report

Quoted By: >>21825140 >>21825407

>>21824973
Another pepe post, post release?
Yes we get it, BF is not there.
Can you discuss anything else beside this whole episode with the Battle Frontier not being in the games?
Can discuss something else?
I am not mad, just concerned

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:43:18 No.21825051 Report

Quoted By: >>21825102 >>21825166 >>21826114

They didn't "cut the battle frontier" from ORAS. It was never intended to be implemented. No, we're not EA tier, we're GF tier. If you hadn't been so obsessed with spamming memes you'd have realized that B-team takes the post-game facility from the same gen. FR/LG had the battle tower because R/S did, HG/SS had the Frontier because Platinum did and ORAS has the Maison because XY does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:47:42 No.21825102 Report

Quoted By: >>21825156 >>21825251

>>21825051
For what fucking purpose they dodged questions regarding BF in interviews. They said that customization wont return, what is the case with BF? What is this bullshit with covering BF island with clouds? NPC references? I dont believe it will come, but ffs they could at least skip all that bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:49:46 No.21825126 Report

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FUCK GAMEFREAK'S JEW SHIT

NOBODY WAS DYING TO PLAY THESE TODAY

I GUARANTEE YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE ON THIS BOARD WOULD PREFER TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR THE STUFF THEY CUT OUT FROM EMERALD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:51:04 No.21825140 Report

Quoted By: >>21825148

>>21825035

Lets discuss how shitty gamefreak are for not adding online support for contests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:51:44 No.21825148 Report

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>>21825140
Missed opportunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:52:04 No.21825156 Report

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>>21825102
The fact that they did indeed dodge the BF questions and actually included references to it in the game makes this situation unique. Perhaps this truly will be the first attempt at DLC, since the only people that would want the BF are probably competitive people that play online anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:53:16 No.21825166 Report

Quoted By: >>21825251

>>21825051
FRLG didnt have the tower you shitlicker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:54:36 No.21825180 Report

Quoted By: >>21825246 >>21825407 >>21825557

I'm sorry was this a remake based off of Emerald version? Because that's the game that had battle frontier in it. So shut your pissy ungrateful mouth you 12 year old bitch and play the fucking game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:58:56 No.21825246 Report

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>>21825180
Everytime faggot like that comes and shits the thread with his ignorance. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:59:14 No.21825251 Report

Quoted By: >>21825331 >>21825458 >>21825475 >>21826114

>>21825102

I don't fucking know, I don't work at GF. But the difference is, I don't take neutral responses as positives. So what they dodged questions. I don't know their motives. So what NPC's hint at things? I don't know if that confirms anything. The whole reason this shitstorm happened is because people assumed things. Its fine to speculate, but when you start believing those speculations you set yourself up for a fall and set this board up for a drastic drop in intellectual discussion.

>>21825166

Its on Seven Island you faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 19:59:45 No.21825258 Report

Quoted By: >>21825280

>>21824988
>People want the best feature pokemon has ever had back, and was the standout feature of gen 3
>somehow, this is a "maymay"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:00:35 No.21825266 Report

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>>21824973
Daily reminder; the guy posting pepe images, and whining about BF is the same guy report, and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:01:36 No.21825280 Report

Quoted By: >>21825445 >>21825934 >>21825997

>>21825258
fuck off retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:05:10 No.21825331 Report

Quoted By: >>21825405

>>21825251
But besides that there is actual vs.bfrontier theme. They could spend time on Wally's battle theme instead of that crap. You cant say its "just a speculation" when this shit happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:10:08 No.21825405 Report

Quoted By: >>21825438

>>21825331

A lot of the game have unused tracks. RSE has an unused legendary dog track. You shouldn't assume anything until you hear about it from an official source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:10:15 No.21825407 Report

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>>21825035
No for a simple reason. When you're done with Episode Delta and legendary hunting, what's really left is the Maison. Why would we want to play the Maison if we have that already in XY? It's a bad incentive for us players who already went through RSE before.

>>21825180
>Ungrateful
And what do we have to be grateful for? Because having a game that's largely the same as XY is not something we should be grateful about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:12:49 No.21825438 Report

Quoted By: >>21825529

>>21825405
>implying we will ever hear anything about it

Masuda is ignoring every question regarding the lack of content, you think they could actually like... talk with us? :^)

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:13:12 No.21825445 Report

Quoted By: >>21826313

>>21825280
wow, you sure showed him!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:13:45 No.21825458 Report

Quoted By: >>21825664

>>21825251
That's the "Trainer Tower" and isn't a consecutive win facility, it's a speed run through a trainer gauntlet facility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:14:05 No.21825462 Report

Quoted By: >>21825501 >>21825612 >>21825658

You know, I wonder...What might've been the reasoning behind their decision to release both ORAS and Wii U Smash, at the same time? Nintendo is well aware that Smash sales would likely eclipse ORAS at launch date, so why bother releasing new games for two major franchises, simultaneously?

Unless of course Game Freak was planning to somehow boost their sales, later on...free or paid DLC would make perfect sense, if that is indeed the case. And considering the lack of certain key features in ORAS that were popularized by the original RSE games, that's not entirely out of the question.

There's too much in-game foreshadowing to ignore the possibility of extended gameplay, and I doubt we'll be getting a full-fledged Emerald remake anytime soon; why would they bother remaking the same game again in a year's time if they can just patch in some extra content? Would certainly help improve holiday sales.

In any case, we won't really know until someone says something about it, and Masuda's been unusually quiet about the subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:14:58 No.21825475 Report

Quoted By: >>21825537

>>21825251
Actually this would be all over with if Masuda would just tell us. But the guy just won't speak which is causing all this confusion. I just hope they put us out of our misery already in all honesty, i can take it anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:17:17 No.21825501 Report

Quoted By: >>21825516 >>21826313

>>21825462
Also, what the hell are they going to show in the Mega Evolution Special early next year? MegaN____ E___?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:18:14 No.21825516 Report

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>>21825501
Nothing, lol.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:18:33 No.21825519 Report

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>>21824986

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:19:15 No.21825529 Report

Quoted By: >>21826114

>>21825438

Doesn't prove anything. Maybe Masuda has mental disease where he physically cannot talk about Flygon or he throws up. Maybe Nintendo have gagged him. There's no way to know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:19:48 No.21825537 Report

Quoted By: >>21825559 >>21825588

>>21825475
So he's been asked about the Frontier after the datamine proved it is not in the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:21:47 No.21825557 Report

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>>21825180
You're that subsection of gamers known as "the doormat". You take whatever shit is made and defend it blindly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:21:56 No.21825559 Report

Quoted By: >>21825585

>>21825537
Yes, actually it was in some sort of Q&A. It was flooded with BF related stuff, but he ignored it completely. We are not fans, we are trash, remember this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:23:55 No.21825585 Report

Quoted By: >>21825592 >>21826313

>>21825559
You mean that niconico stream yesterday? I heard that the chat was spammed about Mega *he who shall not be named* and Battle Frontier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:24:05 No.21825588 Report

Quoted By: >>21825669 >>21825769

>>21825537
Yup
He did an "I'll answer any question" stream on niconico or some other Japanese site and the majority of questions were "where is BF" and "why are there no other megas asides from the ones released"
He just dodges all of these questions and answers small ones that have almost no relevance to postgame. I bet those where asked by Nintendo devs to keep masuda talking instead of just sitting still since he refuses to talk anything about BF and megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:24:32 No.21825592 Report

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>>21825585
Yeah, i think it was that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:26:02 No.21825612 Report

Quoted By: >>21825639 >>21825656 >>21825672

>>21825462
>There's too much in-game foreshadowing to ignore the possibility of extended gameplay
They foreshadowed plenty in XY, too. It's just Trollfreak doing what they do best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:28:02 No.21825639 Report

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>>21825612
Except that'll obviously be expanded in Z or XY2 or whatever.
Thougjat this point I wouldn't be surprised if that is badly made as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:28:30 No.21825640 Report

Quoted By:

>>21825019
It's well on its way to becoming one you fucking faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:29:19 No.21825653 Report

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Fucking gamefreak. I want my battle frontier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:29:27 No.21825656 Report

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>>21825612
How so? I don't recall anything being mentioned so specifically as the Battle Frontier and Wallace taking Steven's place as champion.

Of course it could just be wishful thinking, but it's tangible to say the least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:29:38 No.21825658 Report

Quoted By: >>21825707

>>21825462

They're releasing them the same date in the hope that there will be queues at game shops that they can put out press releases on and tell journalists about so the journalists will ask what people are buying and everyone will say Nintendo stuff. The papers lap this shit up in places like the UK and write endless articles about how such and such is the most desired bit of tech this christmas because there were queues for it.

Sony and microsoft do it whenever there is a new console and most christmases by releasing only limited stock at what is the busiest time of the year or at launch and apple do it whenever there is a new i-pad by only letting you buy it from the apple store on the first day.

This is also why there is a big launch event for ORAS and Smash Bros in London on the 28th and why Masuda is in the UK (that and his super secret trip to Wales that nobody is meant to know about...hmm). It is also the reason why Europe is getting the games later than the rest of the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:29:51 No.21825664 Report

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>>21825458

Exactly like R/S's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:30:26 No.21825669 Report

Quoted By: >>21825830

>>21825588
Why is he so ignorant towards the fans' demands? It's stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:30:26 No.21825672 Report

Quoted By: >>21826313

>>21825612
Not him but I feel that the third Kalos game is going to resolve that. It's also why I believe that the BF references (if they hold any meaning) are a different case. However, if it's not in ORAS, what if they pull the impossible and include both future Hoenn and Kalos in the third game with the BF? NEVER EVER

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:31:47 No.21825684 Report

Quoted By: >>21825723 >>21825777 >>21825786 >>21825986

The reason Battle Frontier isn't a priority because it's not a feature that the target audience (CHILDREN) will get any enjoyment out of.

Why waste all your time on a feature that most of them won't touch because it's too hard?

The only alternative would be making the Battle Frontier easier, and I can imagine how you'd react to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:33:28 No.21825707 Report

Quoted By: >>21825789

>>21825658
Great. By the time he makes a British Isles game, the franchise will be easy-mode shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:35:12 No.21825723 Report

Quoted By: >>21825775 >>21825777 >>21825815 >>21826313

>>21825684
Many were kids (myself included) back in Emerald too, so why did they include it back then? At the very least they should have given us a proper Battle Tower, not just a copy-pasted Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:39:17 No.21825769 Report

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>>21825588
>He did an "I'll answer any question" stream on niconico or some other Japanese site and the majority of questions were "where is BF" and "why are there no other megas asides from the ones released"

top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:39:51 No.21825775 Report

Quoted By: >>21825848

>>21825723
Because : 3rd Gen was back before Game Freak really decided they had to make things EASIER for kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:40:08 No.21825777 Report

Quoted By: >>21825848

>>21825684
this >>21825723
also, getting silver symbols wasn't that hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:40:54 No.21825786 Report

Quoted By: >>21825797

>>21825684
> target audience (CHILDREN)
you must be a fucking retard why do you think they made natures, EVs, IVs, abilities, and items a thing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:41:08 No.21825789 Report

Quoted By: >>21825812 >>21825866

>>21825707
>British Isles style region
>Almost all of the forests on the main island are gone except preserved areas.

Not a single region has been made completely desert save for oases and coast or regions with a mix of jungles, semi-arid plains, and/or mountainous areas.

British Isles themed region would be boring m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:41:52 No.21825797 Report

Quoted By:

>>21825786
Why do you think with each Generation they've made all of those things easier for children to understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:43:33 No.21825812 Report

Quoted By: >>21825886

>>21825789
I was referring in my reply to Masuda's secret trip to Wales, which might suggest he was doing research for a new game. I'll admit I'm biased though since I'm from Ireland.

I'd like a new area based on somewhere in South America or Africa or Australia personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:44:02 No.21825815 Report

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>>21825723
Because kids today are retarded, lazy and want immediate satiafaction. When a kid's nanny is an overpriced iPad you know sonething's wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:45:57 No.21825830 Report

Quoted By: >>21825910

>>21825669
I think he knows and just doesn't want to comment because he'd lose reputation by saying "oh we know you all wanted it but we were just too short of time"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:46:43 No.21825848 Report

Quoted By: >>21825883 >>21826313

>>21825775
I was about to post something like this >>21825777, but Anon posted first.

To be honest, I don't think it will be a bad game. It just feels like wasted potential. In that regard, HGSS delivered more, as it didn't remove any content from the original games at least from what I can remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:48:22 No.21825866 Report

Quoted By: >>21825886

>>21825789
Orre region m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:49:51 No.21825883 Report

Quoted By:

>>21825848
This
We're in the fucking age of commercialized 3D consoles and the remakes from an era that thought this would be impossible has less things to do than the original.just plain ridiculous. We don't even have WiFi contests now. The only time we might get them is in DP remakes and those will have dancing and dress up.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:49:53 No.21825886 Report

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>>21825812
Thinking more of the lines of Saharan Africa, Interior India, Andes area, and yes, Australia with New Zealand-like islands. Perhaps even landlocked areas such as the Great Plains/Rocky Mountain area North America or Central Asian Steppes.

Masuda is looking at the wrong place to research to base a new region, no offense.
Although a medieval style generation would be nice
.>>21825866
Doesn't count, main series games m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:51:54 No.21825910 Report

Quoted By: >>21825969

>>21825830
>short of time
They got all time they need, thats why we wont get bf as dlc, because that doesnt make any sense. Why making all that trouble, when it could be implemented in vanilla in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:53:52 No.21825934 Report

Quoted By:

>>21825280
confirmed for the dumbest faggot on /vp/. And that fucking means something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:56:35 No.21825969 Report

Quoted By:

>>21825910
I know they had all the time they needed but I just think that's the excuse they'll use

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:57:43 No.21825986 Report

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>>21825684

Buddy I was twelve when Emerald came out and I still loved the Frontier.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 20:58:39 No.21825997 Report

Quoted By: >>21826022

>>21825280

It makes no difference what you say to these angry /v/tards. They'll keep spamming meme arguments) and the janitors will continue to allow it because they want the /v/ crowd (14 year old irrational redditors) to bring in ad revenue.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:00:26 No.21826022 Report

Quoted By: >>21826114 >>21826313

>>21825997

Here's your reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:02:56 No.21826048 Report

Quoted By: >>21826060 >>21826117

it's pretty sad all the people are justifying BF's removal by saying it's going to be in the next remake.. a remake of a remake.. really? i bet every single pokemon fan would have no problem waiting another year to have a real remake of 3rd gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:04:03 No.21826060 Report

Quoted By:

>>21826048
I can tell by now I wont buy any Pokemon game in the future, and i actually have preordered ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:08:21 No.21826114 Report

Quoted By: >>21826261 >>21826313

>>21826022

Here's yours.

>>21825051
>>21825251
>>21825529
>>21824863
>>21825006
>>21825175

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:08:45 No.21826117 Report

Quoted By: >>21826195 >>21826976

>>21826048
About X/Y's postgame content, I gave GF a free pass, because they had to rework the engine/models/voices and all that shit. But as things currently stand, if getting yearly releases means lost potential and cut content, then I would gladly wait any amount of time to get something more fleshed out and more optimized. I mean, they still did not fix the 3D framedrops, and that's the 3DS's advertised gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:14:47 No.21826195 Report

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>>21826117
seriously they had all the groundwork done by RSE, they didn't have to compose music, write a story, come up with 100 pokemon, design a world, NPCs etc. but they left out the best content of 3rd gen.. why? to sell us a third game and /vp/ is happy about that.. fuck me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:19:04 No.21826251 Report

Quoted By:

I just consider this whole scenario a sick joke and the way GF is handling it to be almost comical

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:19:39 No.21826261 Report

Quoted By:

>>21826114
not even him but good job on quoting a lot of bullshit there anon. I guess the big message was
>"muh RS remakes, not Emerald remakes!"

well that's fucking bullshit and everyone who says otherwise is a fucking retard. Emerald was nothing but the final version of RS, it was a perfected version of those games. Making arguments like you do is like admitting mental illness. Even fucking HGSS implemented all of the elements of the third version, why the fuck should ORAS leave out elements that made RS better?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 21:24:07 No.21826313 Report

Quoted By: >>21826976

>>21826114
OK, here are my posts in this thread :

>>21825445
>>21825501
>>21825585
>>21825672
>>21825723
>>21825848
>>21826022

Now, can you tell me what I'm supposed to be seeing in your quoted posts? Because as far as I can tell :

- If they were not planning to include the BF AT ANY POINT during development, they would not have put all these references, even if they decided not to include it in the end. They would just ignore it altogether. No need to fuel the fire.
- HGSS would not have the Suicune subplot, if it was just a remake of the originals. ALSO NO LEADER REMATCHES :^)
- Yes, Masuda is a gigantic faggot at times, can't deny that.
- Again, they should have at least included the original Battle Tower.
- The Delta Episode, while great, and gives a shitton of lore and a Deoxys, can not compare to the 100+ hours I could spend in the BF doing interesting shit in the facilities. And neither the Maison can.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:04:08 No.21826976 Report

Quoted By:

>>21826313
Welp, this post >>21826117
is also mine, sorry about that. Now, can someone answer me something? These past few threads about BF, attract some shitposters as every other thread, but overall, I see the same arguments from people when speaking about the reasons against BF's inclusion in the games, like being a straight up remake of R/S or that the Maison/Battle Tower v1.1 and the Delta Episode or the legendaries hunt are a worthwhile addition to the postgame, in terms of added time.

Can't they see why that shit doesn't fly?
Wouldn't they want a more complete product, faithful to what Hoenn at its best was?
Is it all just shitposting and I'm a fag? Most likely

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