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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:03:54 No.21876681 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21876754 >>21876776 >>21876983 >>21878258 >>21878283 >>21878286 >>21878897 >>21878957 >>21879463 >>21879553

Good afternoon /vp/. You have 10 seconds to explain why your favorite pokemon is competetive shit, go.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:08:02 No.21876741 Report

Quoted By: >>21880371

It's NFE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:09:01 No.21876751 Report

Quoted By: >>21878721

truant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:09:15 No.21876754 Report

Quoted By: >>21878361

>>21876681
but it isn't

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:10:20 No.21876776 Report

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>>21876681
I only need two.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:12:16 No.21876807 Report

Quoted By: >>21876850 >>21876898

4x ice weakness

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:14:33 No.21876837 Report

Quoted By: >>21878857

It's supposed to be a special Skarmory but has a x4 weakness to a special-heavy type and provides almost no utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:15:13 No.21876850 Report

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>>21876807
2x*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:15:27 No.21876856 Report

Quoted By: >>21878857

1. Bad stats and movepool.
2. Bad movepool.
3. It's good.
4. Just outclassed by other stuff. Really good.
5. Shitty movepool.
6. Bad stats.
7. Inaccurate.
8. Not the best typing. Narrow applications.
9. It's good.
10. Bad stats. Bad movepool. Bad abilities.
11. Outclassed.
12. It's actually very good at multiple things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:18:06 No.21876898 Report

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>>21876807
terrible bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:20:46 No.21876933 Report

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>Dusknoir

Weak STAB options
Outdone defensively by its previous evolution
Only recovery option is pain split
Terrible HP and speed making it reliant on trick room support to do anything
Good special movepool with a mediocre special attack stat

And its a fucking trade w/item evo which has nothing to do with competitive but what a pain in the ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:24:09 No.21876983 Report

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>>21876681
Yaass papis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 22:25:23 No.21877005 Report

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Milotic is awesome tho

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:47:37 No.21878258 Report

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>>21876681
Terrible defenses, Terrible speed, Terrible typing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:48:27 No.21878268 Report

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>Lucario

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:49:26 No.21878283 Report

Quoted By: >>21878387

>>21876681
>Bastiodon
It's self-explanatory isn't it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:49:43 No.21878286 Report

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>>21876681

But it isn't you faglord

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:52:53 No.21878340 Report

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Incredible movepool and cool ability wasted on sub-par stats and typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:54:04 No.21878361 Report

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>>21876754
Try using one together with Heatran as a defensive core, they cover each other almost perfectly. And while Parasect ain't the bulkiest, he can recover with leech seed and potentially dry skin (either under the rain or with the baited water move when switched in.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:55:43 No.21878387 Report

Quoted By: >>21878482

>>21878283
It is a decent opener with stealth rock, roar and magic coat. His only real weakness is the defensively terrible typing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:56:52 No.21878409 Report

Quoted By: >>21878857

The defenses of a wet paper bag. But wait let's mega evolve it.
>40 points wasted on it's inferior attacking stat
>defenses stay the same
Also it would've been cool with fairy typing on its mega form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2014 23:57:49 No.21878420 Report

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>Reuniclus
Because priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:02:05 No.21878481 Report

Quoted By: >>21878492

Terrible defensive typing and men defenses, so anything it can't kill or flinch will wreck it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:02:12 No.21878482 Report

Quoted By: >>21878503

>>21878387
I'm p sure you're insane, it's lack of an offensive presence and inability to do anything back to common leads makes it useless in that role.
Trust me, I've used it a lot, it doesn't even have a valid niche in pu anymore. It's poop. It'll always be poop. you should stop being bad :/

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:03:13 No.21878492 Report

Quoted By: >>21878644

>>21878481
Meh defenses.
Also forgot pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:04:09 No.21878503 Report

Quoted By: >>21878542

>>21878482
It can roar them out.

Yes, I am sorry for being so bad. But some people actually don't know how to handle a roarer so it sometimes works.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:04:43 No.21878509 Report

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Fist types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:06:42 No.21878542 Report

Quoted By: >>21878574

>>21878503
You hit roar and they either set up rocks on you, or break your sturdy. Ur bastiodon just became a sitting duck. Since most hazard leads carry coverage that beats bastiodon, in every tier. :/

Eq Golem
EQ Crustle
Waterfall Qwilfish
Hydro Omastar
Waterfall/spower Kabu
Eq Chomp
Ep Nidoqueen
Terrakion
The only thing it's beating is forretress. And that's only because it's as passive as bastiodon. And it's not even beating it, just slightly annoying it for a while.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:08:46 No.21878573 Report

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>No reliable recovery
>Mediocre Attack
>Common weaknesses
>Weather-reliant Mega

i cri everytim

He's still my bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:08:48 No.21878574 Report

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>>21878542
Well, then you predict and use... magic coat... I guess? Then you roar them out for passive damage and hope you can survive a while of wild roulette until you die and atleast did some chipping damage.

LazilyOU !!967O2IfbKDo

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LazilyOU !!967O2IfbKDo Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:12:54 No.21878616 Report

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It's not complete shit, but Priority Bird and the prevalence of Knock Off make things rather more difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:14:58 No.21878644 Report

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>>21878492

A big fish in a massive, massive pond. It did wreck pretty damn hard in OU, to the point where Smogon voted unanimously for its ban.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:16:09 No.21878678 Report

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It's aight, but Knock Off and friends hurt.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:16:22 No.21878680 Report

Quoted By: >>21878857

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:18:28 No.21878721 Report

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>>21876751
This, Slaking is my bro but he's way too easy to screw over. And with the insane stats now he's not even that great without his ability.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:22:11 No.21878789 Report

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talonflame

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:26:36 No.21878857 Report

Quoted By: >>21879441 >>21880157

>>21876837
>burns for days
>defog
>wide guard
>tailwind
>haze
>helping hand
>no utility
i know you're supposed to know nothing about your favorite and cry that it's shit but come on

>>21876856
stunfisk has neither bad stats nor a bad movepool
garbodor doesn't have a bad movepool. seriously, it's more believable that it has bad stats.
what's weezing outclassed by?
shiftry doesn't have a shitty movepool.
>barbaracle's inaccurate
wut
>saying that trevenant is good but m-pinsir isn't
are you stupid or something
purugly doesn't have any of those things, it's just not that great
what's exploud outclassed by?

>>21878409
bet you wish it has 15 spatk and 200+ atk, huh

>>21878680
heh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:29:28 No.21878897 Report

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>>21876681
Garchomp exists.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:34:08 No.21878957 Report

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>>21876681
But it isn't at least in UU.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:46:39 No.21879155 Report

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Because it didn't get a mega like its brother.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 00:54:55 No.21879292 Report

Quoted By: >>21879941 >>21880371

No fucking stats. They're all balanced, which means they all suck.

Just another bro they'll hopefully give a Mega someday. I want to believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:04:12 No.21879441 Report

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>>21878857
why are you literally terrible at pokemans.

Everything mantine does is really insignificant when it a) doesn't have a god tier typing like skarmory. b) no recovery. "burns for days" more like one burn then you're in ko range with no way to fix that. c) weak to what it's meant to be walling special moves that is. d) defogger weak to rocks lmao e) no hazards, basically what makes skarmory elder god tier, it sets up bebbles and spikes while physical attackers can't do shit about it. f) why the fuck would you use EITHER of them in doubles. Mantine is discharge weak. Skarm is special spread moves in general weak. Hazards are shit there, helping hand is better done by something with other utility like follow me mantine would be fucking good with follow me, it would make sense too given the remoraid gimmick.
Overall. They aren't good. It isn't good, it's aggressively mediocre. Get good anytime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:06:08 No.21879463 Report

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>>21876681
Klingklang is only steel and not steel/ground
It cant learn earthquake

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:11:44 No.21879544 Report

Quoted By: >>21879596 >>21879654

>4x Weakness to grass
>Mega ability depends on weather effect

Why must I suffer so?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:12:14 No.21879553 Report

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>>21876681

It isn't sorry op

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:14:59 No.21879596 Report

Quoted By: >>21879669

>>21879544
Get the rain up and it's nigh unstoppable. It's singlehandedly bringing back rain teams. It's just that good under rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:19:25 No.21879654 Report

Quoted By: >>21879687

>>21879544
Grass is not a common attacking type, and it's also its only weakness.

It is borderline broken under rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:20:11 No.21879669 Report

Quoted By: >>21879687

>>21879596
Okay, dumb question ahead: Is there a way to make it rain in game without using rain dance or relying on primal Kyogre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:21:40 No.21879687 Report

Quoted By:

>>21879669
politoed bro
It has drizzle as its HA.

>>21879654
under rain with a neutral nature and zero EV investment it's outspeeding fully invested base 110's. That's fucking nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:40:16 No.21879941 Report

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>>21879292
Still great for Single Player though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:53:42 No.21880157 Report

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>>21878857
I think it's atk is perfectly fine, I wish that 40 points they invested in sp. atk was split between it's defenses

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 01:57:54 No.21880218 Report

Quoted By: >>21880307

is he still competitive shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 02:03:53 No.21880307 Report

Quoted By: >>21880399

>>21880218
Curelax is as good as ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 02:08:16 No.21880371 Report

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>>21876741
>It's NFE.
My nigger, my feel.

Also, all mu niggers are outclassed by other.
I always wanted to run a Grumpig, but all time that i replayed RSE i caught a abra/raltz with perfect SpAtk+Speed. Plus movepool of both pkm, and both can be caught on initials routes, grumpig become far useless.

>>21879292
Give it a pointiest stick to atk & some speed and become high usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2014 02:10:21 No.21880399 Report

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>>21880307
damn shame that as good as ever isn't good enough anymore.

Thanks, powercreep

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