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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:45:55 No.21935317 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21935338 >>21935434 >>21935570 >>21935660 >>21936171 >>21936912 >>21936976 >>21937997

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/salamencite-is-now-banned-to-ubers.3523082/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:46:24 No.21935323 Report

Quoted By:

Such democracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:46:24 No.21935324 Report

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FINALLY

typical /vp/ shitter that dont understand smogon

typical /vp/ shitter that dont understand smogon Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:47:45 No.21935335 Report

Quoted By: >>21935535

obligatory shitpost
>playing smogon rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:47:52 No.21935338 Report

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>>21935317
not shocking.

Everyone knew it was going to be uber as fuck as soon as the stats came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:48:07 No.21935343 Report

Quoted By: >>21935350 >>21935354 >>21935404

Once again, Smogon bans anything that ruins their favorite play style. Yawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:48:53 No.21935350 Report

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>>21935343
replying to a troll post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:49:08 No.21935354 Report

Quoted By: >>21935385

>>21935343
Mence shat all over all playstyles you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:50:25 No.21935371 Report

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ITT: trolling devoted smogonfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:50:37 No.21935375 Report

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Absolutely disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:51:14 No.21935385 Report

Quoted By: >>21935412

>>21935354
Game Freak clearly designed the game so that Salamence HO was the only viable play style. We just need to play that instead of Smogon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:53:26 No.21935404 Report

Quoted By: >>21935432

>>21935343
>Yawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:54:07 No.21935412 Report

Quoted By: >>21935430 >>21935441

>>21935385
There are counters like m mawile or aegi, but smogon is too butthurt to unban and see the meta without their blob over it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:56:03 No.21935430 Report

Quoted By: >>21935445

>>21935412
nice counter
>+1 252+ Atk Salamence Earthquake vs. 132 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 320-378 (116.7 - 137.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+1 252+ Atk Salamence Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 274-324 (84.5 - 100%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:56:14 No.21935432 Report

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>>21935404
Yawn confirmed for OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:56:27 No.21935434 Report

Quoted By: >>21935450

>>21935317
Fucking typical of Smogon to ban a pokemon that threatens their precious Mega Charizard. Fucking typical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:56:53 No.21935441 Report

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>>21935412
Blissey dropped to UU already this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:57:19 No.21935445 Report

Quoted By: >>21935475

>>21935430
Air Balloon Aegi :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:57:42 No.21935450 Report

Quoted By: >>21935543

>>21935434
Thats totally why Azumarill, Thundurus, TTar+Excadrill were all banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:58:49 No.21935475 Report

Quoted By: >>21935490 >>21935498 >>21935506 >>21935510

>>21935445
nice
>252+ SpA Aegislash-Shield Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 87-103 (26.2 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:58:56 No.21935476 Report

Quoted By: >>21935518 >>21935539

how viable is it in ubers?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:59:17 No.21935483 Report

Quoted By: >>21935811

>hurr if gf designed it it's fine
>muh vgc meta
>play da reel gaem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 16:59:32 No.21935490 Report

Quoted By: >>21935523

>>21935475
HP Ice with max SpA. Git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:00:13 No.21935498 Report

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>>21935475
>Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 No.21935506 Report

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>>21935475
>Aegi Shield
i know that mence should have been banned but get your calcs right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:01:05 No.21935510 Report

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>>21935475
Wrong calc, you used Shield form not Blade.

252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 175-207 (52.8 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:01:30 No.21935518 Report

Quoted By: >>21935526

>>21935476
Any mega is unviable in ubers atm thanks to Megaray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:02:01 No.21935523 Report

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>>21935490
fixed the calc since it was shield form
>252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 175-207 (52.8 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

But anyway
>252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 352-416 (106.3 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can't even switch in since EQ 2hkos it unboosted anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:02:33 No.21935526 Report

Quoted By: >>21935552

>>21935518
We need an Uber Ubers for GeoXern, Primals, and Crayquaza

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:03:09 No.21935535 Report

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>>21935335
>not playing smogon rules
ayy lmao 5yrs old wifi kid with minimize

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:03:30 No.21935539 Report

Quoted By: >>21935553

>>21935476
Completely useless because Mega Rayquaza exists.

So Gen 4 all over again in that regard.

Note that any mega NOT named Mega Rayquaza is unviable in Ubers. This includes stuff like Mega MEWTWOS and Mega Gengar, the one that a few months ago got SUSPECT TESTED IN UBERS.

Mega Rayquaza is broken.

Buttscab Jr. !j8TSzXaHN.

Buttscab Jr. !j8TSzXaHN. Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:03:45 No.21935543 Report

Quoted By: >>21935552

>>21935450
Excadrill was banned for the entirety of gen5 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:04:28 No.21935552 Report

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>>21935526
>Uber Ubers for GeoXern
Everyone learned how to deal with that months ago, GeoXern is perfectly fine in Ubers

>>21935543
MZardX wasn't around in gen 5 ya dingus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:04:31 No.21935553 Report

Quoted By: >>21935771

>>21935539
So Rayquaza is the new dragon of balance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:05:33 No.21935570 Report

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>>21935317
Took them long enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:06:01 No.21935578 Report

Quoted By: >>21935587

is there an uber list?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:06:23 No.21935581 Report

Quoted By: >>21935613

> people still caring about smogon rule
just a little info, even the top ranked players only play on showdown for testing. most people are just doing wifi battles. Smogon needs to completely redo their system

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:06:54 No.21935587 Report

Quoted By: >>21935827 >>21935874

>>21935578
>googling is hard

http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/tags/uber

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:09:24 No.21935613 Report

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>>21935581
VGC/Battle Spot players use Showdown for testing, but Smogon riles are simulator based, no serious Smogon player plays those rules on cart unless it's for fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:10:37 No.21935629 Report

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Now what mega should I use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:13:00 No.21935660 Report

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>>21935317
The only people that didn't see this coming are either complete retards or die hard smogon haters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:14:21 No.21935675 Report

Quoted By: >>21935687 >>21935690 >>21935694 >>21935696 >>21935698 >>21935704 >>21935722 >>21935770 >>21936107

I thought fairies were supposed to nerf dragons.

How are Mega Rayquaza and Salamence getting banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:15:26 No.21935687 Report

Quoted By: >>21935707

>>21935675
because their Flying attacks are OP rather than their Dragon attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:15:29 No.21935690 Report

Quoted By: >>21935707

>>21935675
Because they have super-powerful Flying-type moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:15:49 No.21935694 Report

Quoted By: >>21935707

>>21935675
Cuz flying is a top-tier offensive typing, and they use that as main STAB now that they have access to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:15:55 No.21935696 Report

Quoted By: >>21935707

>>21935675
Fairies aren't immune to flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:16:08 No.21935698 Report

Quoted By: >>21936868

>>21935675
Fairies are kill by Megamence's flying type, not his dragon type.

Flying is the new Dragon type.

What new type will Game Freak introduce in the next generation to counter birds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:16:25 No.21935704 Report

Quoted By: >>21935736

>>21935675
Fairies did fuck all, the only Dragons they really hurt were the weaker ones like Flygon or Druddigon. It's not even that good for Outrage blocking since Bulky Steels punish Dragons way better than it

Mega Salamence literally tears everything in OU in half, it's ridiculously powerful

Mega Ray is just stupid, but it's not getting banned from Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:16:39 No.21935707 Report

Quoted By: >>21935714 >>21935718 >>21935724 >>21935728

>>21935687
>>21935690
>>21935694
>>21935696
What about steel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:17:10 No.21935714 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935707
Steel isn't SE against Flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:17:26 No.21935718 Report

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>>21935707
Most Dragons can learn Earthquake or a Fire move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:17:36 No.21935722 Report

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>>21935675
Dragons ALWAYS find a way to wreck shit.
Fairies aren't gonna stop them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:17:43 No.21935724 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935707
every dragon has Fire Blast/Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:17:54 No.21935728 Report

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>>21935707
The can both run either a mixed set with fire blast or pure physical with v-create/eq

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:18:34 No.21935736 Report

Quoted By: >>21935759 >>21935779 >>21935783

>>21935704
>Mega Ray is just stupid, but it's not getting banned from Ubers
see >>21934417
Kek. Won't be too long before smogon follows suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:19:42 No.21935759 Report

Quoted By: >>21936891

>>21935736
PO are the same people that suspected Xerneas, which Smogon will never ever do

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:20:35 No.21935770 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935675
It wouldn't be so bad Game Freak just stopped dick riding dragons every chance they get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:20:37 No.21935771 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935553
180 in both offences with the ability to hold an item, with Flying STAB without the weaknesses of a Flying type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:20:54 No.21935779 Report

Quoted By: >>21936891

>>21935736
These are the people that suspected Geomancy in Ubers, just saying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:21:16 No.21935783 Report

Quoted By: >>21935810

>>21935736
>banning something from a banlist
toppest kek
Mega rayy lmao will never be banned from Ubers.
Since M-Gengar hasn't been banned, nothing else will be banned.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:23:18 No.21935810 Report

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>>21935783
>chaos announces they won't do uber suspect tests ever again
>itemless megaray announced shortly after

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:23:19 No.21935811 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935483
>people on /vp/ defend autismfreak
>these are the same people who say bad things about sakubased after the hype of mega man's final Hype smash

If i had a spongebob reaction image i'd post one instead

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:24:18 No.21935827 Report

Quoted By: >>21935832 >>21935844

>>21935587
>Blaziken is still banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:24:46 No.21935832 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935827
They aren't going to complex ban just to keep furshit chicken out of Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:25:43 No.21935844 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935827
It basically forces you to run Talonflame or Pinsir in order to compete. Both are absolutely rekt by pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:28:47 No.21935874 Report

Quoted By: >>21935898

>>21935587
>http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/tags/uber
I don't see anything but html code.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:30:38 No.21935898 Report

Quoted By: >>21935914

>>21935874
Then you fucked up somehow because it works fine for me. I don't know how you could fuck up clicking a link but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:32:02 No.21935914 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935898
found the problem.
Noscript was blocking it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:45:51 No.21936107 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935675
Is argue it's their flying type what makes them hot shit, not the dragon one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 17:49:56 No.21936171 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935317
>http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/salamencite-is-now-banned-to-ubers.3523082/
Top kekerino.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:44:31 No.21936854 Report

Quoted By: >>21936865 >>21938453

Smogonites can be weird with their decisions and thoughts.

They even call Hawlucha a she.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:45:42 No.21936865 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936854
>Smogonite
>5 posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:45:58 No.21936868 Report

Quoted By: >>21936873 >>21936896

>>21935698
How about making ice resist flying and ground?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:46:46 No.21936873 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936868
We're talking about things that Game Freak would do. Sensible and rational things are not things that Game Freak would do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:47:49 No.21936891 Report

Quoted By: >>21936940

>>21935759
>>21935779

That's because Smogon wasted months on Mega Gengar and Shadow Tag suspect tests and ORAS finally brought us a few decent Xerneas checks such as PDon.
Smogon would have eventually suspected GeoXerneas if it wasn't for those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:48:09 No.21936896 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936868
How about gamefreak stops shitting out broken megas with the defensive stats of skarmory and the offensive stats of garchomp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:48:18 No.21936897 Report

Quoted By: >>21936910 >>21936920 >>21936930 >>21936955 >>21936958 >>21938205

How, exactly, is mega-ray broken?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:49:22 No.21936910 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936897
he's 2fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:49:35 No.21936912 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935317

That actually took longer than I thought.

Now they just need Uber Dupers for megafug and his primal buttbuddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:49:46 No.21936920 Report

Quoted By: >>21936974

>>21936897
Take a 680 BST pokemon.

Now give it +100 BST in the form of a mega evolution.

Now give it an ability that reduces its weaknesses in mega form, and makes its 4x ice type weakness a 2x weakness.

Now allow it to hold any item while it's mega evolved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:50:38 No.21936930 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936897

>180 offenses
>115 speed + ddance
>flying close combat
>v create
>no flying weaknesses

He's broken in virtually every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:51:15 No.21936940 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936891
no, it was never going to get banned..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:52:40 No.21936955 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936897

Flying type close combat
Huge movepool of fantastic moves
amazing ability that makes it only 2X weak at most
780 BST
can still choose an item

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:52:50 No.21936958 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936897
He isn't, git gud smogonfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:54:09 No.21936974 Report

Quoted By: >>21936987 >>21937011

>>21936920

wait, so the orb transforms it in and of itself?

does that mean you can use two megas per battle?

also holy shit, with assault vest that thing would be 2spooky

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:54:12 No.21936976 Report

Quoted By: >>21938015 >>21938025 >>21938078

>>21935317
>let salamence kill something
>revenge kill with scarf weavile
Such hard
very broken
XDXDXD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:54:58 No.21936987 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936974
No, Rayquaza doesn't need a megastone to mega evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 18:57:12 No.21937011 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936974
It only needs to know Dragon Ascent to mega evolve and it still takes up the mega slot so you can't have two megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:22:53 No.21937997 Report

Quoted By:

>>21935317
fascist pigs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:24:56 No.21938015 Report

Quoted By: >>21938055

>>21936976
Taking the bait, but
>what is Extreme Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:26:06 No.21938025 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936976
>salamence switches out of scarf weavile into literally anything else
>comes back in later to get more kills
XD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:28:43 No.21938055 Report

Quoted By: >>21938082

>>21938015
Is this counter bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:29:48 No.21938078 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936976
>try to let Salamence kill something
>sub
>kill
nice scarf :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:30:14 No.21938082 Report

Quoted By: >>21938178

>>21938055
My head was still thinking about Mega Rayquaza with the discussion going on above us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:30:33 No.21938085 Report

Quoted By: >>21938166

who's next? m-slowbro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:37:49 No.21938166 Report

Quoted By:

>>21938085
probably either Greninja or an Aegislash re-test.

I actually don't know if they're still planning on doing a retest but I remember when it was banned they expressed strong interest in eventually trying it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:38:45 No.21938178 Report

Quoted By:

>>21938082
Oh okay then, if m-mence got extremespeed I'm pretty sure it would have been quickbanned by the time ORAS OU was still around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:41:09 No.21938205 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936897
It's deoxys attack with actual bulk, an ability that gets rid of common weaknesses & stabbed flying close combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:41:57 No.21938215 Report

Quoted By:

Took them long enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:43:01 No.21938229 Report

Quoted By: >>21938329

>le mamoswine used ice shard faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 20:51:19 No.21938329 Report

Quoted By:

>>21938229
named a counter xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2014 21:01:01 No.21938453 Report

Quoted By:

>>21936854
>slurpuff post
>ends post with please don't eat me

What a comedian.

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