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Hopelessness is a pokemon

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 20:43:05 No.21990407 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>21990623 >>21990679 >>21990715 >>21990746 >>21990842 >>21990875

How do you beat this thing? Why is this thing allowed to exist? Who thought it would be a good idea to make something strong if not stronger than Mewtwo?

Also the Ice Beam, it does nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 20:44:57 No.21990420 Report

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>How do you beat this thing?
You don't have to
>Why is this thing allowed to exist?
For fun
>Who thought it would be a good idea to make something strong if not stronger than Mewtwo
game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 20:58:12 No.21990584 Report

Quoted By: >>21990600 >>21990626 >>21990670 >>21990704 >>21990712

> Not running STAB Ice Beam
>252 SpA Turboblaze Kyurem-W Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza: 360-426 (102.5 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
There you go. Any STAB Ice, Dragon, or Fairy from any strong dedicated attacker insta kills this thing too. M-Sceptile outspeeds and brings it down to it's knees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 20:59:44 No.21990600 Report

Quoted By: >>21990619 >>21990646

>>21990584

> Forgetting that Turboblaze doesn't stop Deltastrweam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:01:41 No.21990619 Report

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>>21990600
>Dragon type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:02:04 No.21990623 Report

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>>21990407
Specs STAB ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:02:13 No.21990626 Report

Quoted By: >>21990685

>>21990584
That's normal Rayquaza, not mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:03:45 No.21990646 Report

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>>21990600
I removed Rayquaza's Flying typing in that calc. Kyurem-W can still OHKO it even with Delta Stream active.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:06:01 No.21990670 Report

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>>21990584
252 SpA Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza: 302-356 (86 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
nope

252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-W: 391-461 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and kyurem-w is fucked if he has dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:07:11 No.21990679 Report

Quoted By: >>21990704

>>21990407
I killed one with my Greninja, Ice Beam, it had like 95% of health

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:07:40 No.21990685 Report

Quoted By: >>21990720

>>21990626
You can substitute values and typing for mega rayquaza.

>>21990670
Choice scarf can help outspeed and still has enough damage to kill m-quazar. Extremespeed isn't good enough to deal with Kyurem-W even with +2 life orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:09:55 No.21990704 Report

Quoted By: >>21990725 >>21990748

>>21990584
>>21990679
>just hit it with a SE move
Are we being serious here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:10:24 No.21990712 Report

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>>21990584
>M-Sceptile outspeeds and brings it down to it's knees.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 452-533 (160.8 - 189.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:10:36 No.21990715 Report

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>>21990407
Mega Salamance beats it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:10:55 No.21990720 Report

Quoted By: >>21990756

>>21990685
Nevermind that. You need full HP in K-W to tank a extremespeed. If M-quazar is running dragon dance, you're screwed with speed ties. You can run a sash with dedicated HP + Spatk evs though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:11:15 No.21990725 Report

Quoted By: >>21990744

>>21990704
OP asked how to beat MRay, I just said how I beat one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:12:32 No.21990744 Report

Quoted By: >>21990766

>>21990725
You need to survive a hit if your pokemon is slower (or an ESpeed anyway,) which KyuW and Greninja do not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:12:36 No.21990746 Report

Quoted By: >>21990801 >>21990999

>>21990407
Any Mold Breakers that learn good Ice moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:12:45 No.21990748 Report

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>>21990704
Unfortunately, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:13:40 No.21990756 Report

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>>21990720
of course you can run sash, that is not the point
with a sash even golduck can check it even with dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:14:17 No.21990766 Report

Quoted By: >>21990789

>>21990744
I outsped it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:16:15 No.21990789 Report

Quoted By: >>21991121

>>21990766
Greninja doesn't outspeed +1 Ray and it doesn't survive +2 ESpeed. The only situation in which Greninja can handle it is if your opponent didn't set-up the most bonkers set-up sweeper to have ever existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:17:29 No.21990801 Report

Quoted By: >>21990822

>>21990746
scarf excadrill can outspeed and revenge with an HP Ice. It resists extreme speed too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:18:53 No.21990821 Report

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I just killed one with a meowstic using thunder wave and psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:18:58 No.21990822 Report

Quoted By: >>21990848

>>21990801
M-Gyarados holds enough for an Ice Fang?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:20:18 No.21990842 Report

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>>21990407
M-Aerodactyl with Stone Edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:20:52 No.21990848 Report

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>>21990822
Forgot to add, assuming it Intimidated before going Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:22:02 No.21990865 Report

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trick room
then a prankster will-o-wisp
then ice punch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:22:27 No.21990875 Report

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>>21990407
>How do you beat this thing
With your own M-ray, with better IVs/EVs/Luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:23:39 No.21990898 Report

Quoted By: >>21990927 >>21990956

Is it true that if you "kill" him you get to choses is nature and IV's?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:25:48 No.21990927 Report

Quoted By: >>21990990

>>21990898
Are you 12yo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:27:55 No.21990956 Report

Quoted By: >>21990990

>>21990898
4chan4kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:30:57 No.21990990 Report

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>>21990927
>>21990956
Some people say you don't need to capture him the first time.

Jason: 0645-6947-9076

Jason: 0645-6947-9076 Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:31:45 No.21990999 Report

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>>21990746
Ice Fang M-Gyarados and Sawk and Pangoro both holding a sash with Ice Punch are your only options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:38:08 No.21991062 Report

Quoted By: >>21991735

Mold Breaker doesn't work though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 21:42:35 No.21991121 Report

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>>21990789
It went like this
>I sent Greninja, he sent Kyogre (Primal Reversion)
>not expecting a switch, I went with Grass Knot, but he switchet Kyo with Ray. Grass Knot took like 5%
>he Mega Rays, but Greninja outspeeds it and kills it with one Ice Beam

So you were right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 22:24:31 No.21991735 Report

Quoted By: >>21991867

>>21991062
Bullocks, then it is overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 22:32:31 No.21991867 Report

Quoted By: >>21991881

>>21991735
>Not using 6 Rayquazas
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-188376683

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 22:33:33 No.21991881 Report

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>>21991867
sorry, didn't mean to quote

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2014 22:37:32 No.21991937 Report

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Some idiot challenged me today with M-Rayquaza in a 2v2 battle. used fake out with a speedy mon, and then activated trick room. From there, I took it down with ice punch and ice shard. I was also having to keep my ass from being burned by P-Kyogre, Deoxys, swampert, metagross, and latias.

So...hopefully you'll meet an idiot who thinks having legendaries is a guaranteed win.

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