/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #22001981

[41 / 2 / ?]

490KiB, 660x1048, baby_rayquaza_by_hime__nyan-d5ttqib.png

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:29:31 No.22001981 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22001998 >>22002004 >>22003250 >>22003528

is anyone else disapointed you can literally catch rayquaza with a pokeball at full health now?

gamefreak moved his catch rate from 3 to fucking 45.

do video game companies not know what fun is anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:31:40 No.22001996 Report

Quoted By: >>22002023 >>22002423

I agree OP, catching it in the originals actually felt like an accomplishment. I'm glad Kyogre/Groudon stayed the same.
>inb4 RNG isn't fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:31:41 No.22001998 Report

Quoted By: >>22002021 >>22002044 >>22002193

>>22001981
considering youre catching deoxys straight afterwards
i feel its a decent move, but not the most hardcore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:32:06 No.22002004 Report

Quoted By: >>22002034

>>22001981
They think it's too hard for the kiddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:34:45 No.22002021 Report

Quoted By: >>22002068 >>22002096

>>22001998
What bugs me is you can't Synchronize for a good Deoxys at all, because Rayquaza is always the first pokemon in your slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:34:52 No.22002023 Report

Quoted By: >>22004022

>>22001996
yeah at least they kept groudon and kyogre fun.

really bummed that kids these days wont experience the sheer thrill of actually catching rayquaza tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:36:54 No.22002034 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002004
when we were kids we caught mewtwo and it was a huge fucking deal.

kids these days wont have that experience. also
>implying its not just old nostalgia faggots that still play the pokemon rpgs anyway, implying the majority of the pokemon fanbase is 8 year olds when they've moved on to things like grand theft auto and call of duty and angry birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:38:30 No.22002044 Report

Quoted By: >>22002116

>>22001998
This is definitely the reason they did it, but that speaks more to the problem of the entire setup of that sequence than anything.

They made the gameplay extremely clunky as a sacrifice for the story.. (which is a shame, because the story is shit anyways, so they lose on both fronts somehow, but I digress). Instead, they should've considered the implications of being forced to catch 2 major Legends in a row and designed it to not be a dumbed down, lackluster experience.

I mean, as I get older I find the process of catching Pokemon to be quite boring to begin with, but I can see why watering it down even further might bother some.. It is bad design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:40:21 No.22002055 Report

Quoted By:

So...What's the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:41:54 No.22002068 Report

Quoted By: >>22002154

>>22002021
Kill it, beat the E4, go back to sky pillar abd it will be there. Then you can SR all you want with no cutscenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:45:30 No.22002096 Report

Quoted By: >>22002104 >>22002105

>>22002021
>caring about natures of legends

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:46:16 No.22002104 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002096
>not powersaving your legends so you can use those at ubers match

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:46:17 No.22002105 Report

Quoted By: >>22004238

>>22002096
>He doesn't play all tiers

scrubmaster420xXx detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:46:57 No.22002116 Report

Quoted By: >>22002133 >>22002158

>>22002044
Indeed. If anything they should've left Ray's catch rate the same, and had Zinnia just toss 10 ultraballs at you or something.

If you need to prove your worth to Rayquaza, then story wise it should be a difficult process to do so. From a gameplay standpoint, after kicking Zinnia's teeth in, you should be able to save the game surely.

What would've probably have worked better, in my opinion, would be for Rayquaza to show up, you fight and defeat it, proving your worth, with it fight Zinnia and then Deoxys in space, and you part ways with it when you land. THEN you can return to Sky Pillar later and capture it properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:49:41 No.22002133 Report

Quoted By: >>22002141 >>22002158

>>22002116
That sounds kinda boring and tedious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:50:54 No.22002141 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002133
Well, that's sort of what happened in Emerald, isn't it? You go wake up Rayquaza to stop Kyogre and Groudon, who, after calming them, returns to Sky Pillar where you can catch it for real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:52:59 No.22002154 Report

Quoted By: >>22002163

>>22002068
Deoxys will be? I'm not that far in yet so it's handy to know which I can do later.
I hear Kyogre/Groudon respawn too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:53:35 No.22002158 Report

Quoted By: >>22002191

>>22002116
Something to that degree, yeah. As long as it was split up.

Hell, even just allowing that.. triangle.. thing.. to fall back to Earth and land on Birth Island would work.

>>22002133
Better than what we have now. The option of either endlessly SRing for the right natures, or a convoluted method of obtaining both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:54:14 No.22002163 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002154
It's a lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:57:48 No.22002191 Report

Quoted By: >>22002212

>>22002158
I can just look at Rayquaza stats in battle and see what nature it is by seeing what they look like.

And I just Ko Deoxys and catch it later on.
Besides, RayRay have a better Catch rate so it's not too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 14:58:12 No.22002193 Report

Quoted By:

>>22001998
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 15:02:06 No.22002212 Report

Quoted By: >>22002239

>>22002191
Yeah? So can everyone else.

Doesn't mean that the process isn't clunky and awkward. There are better alternatives.
Also a better story they could've written in tandem with better gameplay. Seriously, I burst out laughing at how stupid it looked with your idiot character needlessly flying on the back of Rayquaza looked along with that cheesy guitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 15:05:34 No.22002239 Report

Quoted By: >>22002436

>>22002212
Then if everyone can do it, why complain?
Also, it was kinda cool with the asteroid scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 15:24:42 No.22002423 Report

Quoted By: >>22002564

>>22001996
I thought they didn't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 15:26:32 No.22002436 Report

Quoted By: >>22004301

>>22002239
Because it's extremely boring, and needlessly so.

The problem isnt' that it's not surmountable. The problem is that it's clunky. It's bad design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 15:42:22 No.22002564 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002423
No Groudon and Kyogre still have 5.
Rayquaza went from 3 to 45.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 16:14:34 No.22002836 Report

Quoted By: >>22004191

Yeah but spending about 10 minutes trying to catch a Pokemon and then soft resetting to do it all over again since it had a shitty nature or ev's is not my idea of fun.

Ledledle

Ledledle Tue 02 Dec 2014 16:18:45 No.22002876 Report

Quoted By:

I mean seriously, when you caught your first legendary, you had nothing to aid you but your current Pokemon team. That was something to be cherished. BUT NOW YOU CAN'T TAKE FIVE STEPS WITHOUT SEEING A LEGENDARY. SRSLY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 16:22:32 No.22002922 Report

Quoted By:

The only non-orignal legendary which was handeled good was Deoxys with its new subplot.

All other non-orignals were just pushed inside random islands mostly without getting any myths or whatever surrounding them. The only explanation is just "lol portals".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 16:52:53 No.22003250 Report

Quoted By:

>>22001981
this
i remember how hard it was catching him and the regis, but it felt so great the moment i catch it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 17:20:44 No.22003528 Report

Quoted By: >>22003956 >>22004191

>>22001981
>my pokeball missed for the 50th time, so fun!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 17:26:29 No.22003599 Report

Quoted By: >>22003956 >>22004191

>throwing dozens of pokeballs and having to reset when you run out of them is somehow fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:00:25 No.22003956 Report

Quoted By: >>22004236

>>22003599
>>22003528

It's the satisfaction when it finally gets caught that makes it so good.

Working for things is always better than having them handed to you on a silver platter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:07:07 No.22004022 Report

Quoted By: >>22004191

>>22002023
>Fun
>Sitting around for that intro cutscene and having to deal with Kyogre Aqua Ring faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:17:47 No.22004115 Report

Quoted By: >>22004191

Because mindlessly spamming the A button for 10 minutes waiting for a legendary to fucking stay in the ball was so much fun in the original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:24:42 No.22004191 Report

Quoted By:

>>22004115
>>22004022
>>22003599
>>22003528
>>22002836

>all these fucking casuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:27:59 No.22004236 Report

Quoted By: >>22004308

>>22003956
Cool. You get like 29 other legendaries for your "satisfaction", though.
And "20 levels over your team with Dragon Dance and shit" while having a slightly higher catch rate isn't "on a silver platter".

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1353018734640.png, 1MiB, 960x1280

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:28:03 No.22004238 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002105
ha that guy uses tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:32:39 No.22004301 Report

Quoted By:

>>22002436
>The problem is that it's clunky. It's bad design.
You keep on saying it like it has meaning, what exactly makes it clunky and bad?
Considering it's part of the story, advertised as something big and they don't want their target audience just to drop it when they can't progress because of it I would say it's smoother than legendary battles with a lower catch rate.
Plus storywise you've already proven yourself by defeating Kyogre and Groudon yourself, an act Rayquaza had to mega evolve in order to do. Rayquaza is just letting you capture it because it knows you're the only one for the job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:33:21 No.22004308 Report

Quoted By: >>22004325

>>22004236

How the fuck did you end up with Rayquaza being 20 levels over your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Dec 2014 18:34:43 No.22004325 Report

Quoted By:

>>22004308
15, whatever.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches