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The internet has ruined Pokemon

Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:16:13 No.22051706 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22051739 >>22051740 >>22051765 >>22052479 >>22053289 >>22053817 >>22054426

>Spoilers/leaks
>Negative opinions
>Seeing what other poke fans look like
>Being able to find out where to get anything you need within seconds instead of having to use intuition.
>Online making you feel like your favourite mon is trash or overused
>Developers making games easy for kids because they can't handle delay of instant gratification something something stimulation something something internet

Discuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:18:24 No.22051739 Report

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>>22051706
You could easily just not come here during leak seasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:18:30 No.22051740 Report

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>>22051706
I Agree in terms of things like the regi quest
In RSE the instruction book had Braille in and you were like "what the flying fuck do I do with this"
Then you find the secret undersea Braille and go full on Indiana Jones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:20:18 No.22051765 Report

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>>22051706
>negative opinions ruined pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:23:18 No.22051813 Report

Quoted By: >>22052439

>Spoilers/leaks
Don't go on Pokemon sites then?
>Negative opinions
Who cares?
>Seeing what other poke fans look like
Why does that matter?
>Being able to find out where to get anything you need within seconds instead of having to use intuition.
Don't use guides
>Online making you feel like your favourite mon is trash or overused
Not the internet's fault your Pokemon is shit
>Developers making games easy for kids because they can't handle delay of instant gratification something something stimulation something something internet
Blame smartphones/tablet games

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Anonymous Fri 05 Dec 2014 23:52:09 No.22052231 Report

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>mfw my internet broke for a full 3 weeks
>Broke 1 week before ORAS US release
>Came back 1 week after ORAS EU release

I've actually had a great time with ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 00:05:32 No.22052439 Report

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>>22051813
>Don't go on Pokemon sites then?
Not an easy thing when you have friends that don't believe in going in blind, places like facebook become a place to avoid

>Who cares?
Peer pressure is what I think OP was trying to suggest with that

>Why does that matter?
Probably something about deviantautists and furries

>Don't use guides
See "Don't go on pokemon sites then?"

>Not the internet's fault your Pokemon is shit
OP doesn't like his feelings hurt obviously

>Blame smartphones/tablet games
Agreed, they've gotten extremely popular in japan and they love their handhelds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 00:08:01 No.22052479 Report

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>>22051706
just be happy you grew up when you did because kids these days will never experience gaming rumors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 00:08:33 No.22052488 Report

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Pretty one-sided discussion with you only pointing out negative aspects there (although I do agree with some of them)

How about some positive aspects?

>Internet info makes it easier to decide whether you want to buy the upcoming game or not
>Internet connects you with fans all over the world, allows to discuss things, interact etc.
>Online battle simulators make trying out new teams way easier than on console
>Pokemon Championships able to be broadcast to your home

There's probably plenty I can't think of right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:09:38 No.22053289 Report

Quoted By: >>22053437

>>22051706
The internet was always here for Pokemon.

Just because your parents didn't have a computer or let you access it at the time doesn't mean no one else did.

Not to mention Pokemon got bashed and spoofed and passed off as a fad all before Gold and Silver were a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:17:40 No.22053373 Report

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>>22052479
Rumors are still alive and well, they've just taken a different form. The ghost cars in GTA:SA, BEN DROWNED, animal people/ghosts in RDR, all the various creepypasta shit in any given Bethesda game, etc. There's generally some technical truth (or outright fabricated 'proof') to it now instead of the schoolyard posturing that spawned shit like Pikablu and Mew under the truck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:23:32 No.22053437 Report

Quoted By: >>22053717 >>22053775

>>22053289
The difference is we didn't have dataminers and had myriad sites about the mystery of Mew under the truck and Legendary Pokegods.

Now we're at a point where everything can be documented within a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:48:05 No.22053717 Report

Quoted By: >>22053856 >>22054114

>>22053437
Yes, some of those fans grew up and took programming and actually enjoy using the skill for their own ends. They've joined the ranks of fuckers that deconstructed NES carts and shit when emulators were new.

People grow up and learn skills anon. Besides, why be lead on by lying kids now that we have the means to bust their myths? Life moves on.

Just like how Caller ID now renders Mrs. Doubtfire impossible and current airport procedure renders the plot of Home Alone impossible. Things change with the times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:50:42 No.22053752 Report

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>>22053373
>creepypasta
all of those are cringe nonsense and are not comparable to what used to get spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:52:20 No.22053775 Report

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>>22053437
DP was glitched and hacked within a week. You're just actually online now.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:54:36 No.22053817 Report

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>>22051706

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:56:31 No.22053855 Report

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>>22053752
How are they not comparable? You're still following silly instructions while trying to obtain a rare result. "Go to the cemetary outside Goodsprings with your system clock set to midnight" isn't that different from "use strength on the truck in Vermillion 50 times".

They're both cringe nonsense, you're just older now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:56:32 No.22053856 Report

Quoted By: >>22053883

>>22053717
>why be lead on by lying kids now that we have the means to bust their myths?
For fun maybe?
I mean, what's the point in doing it if someone can just look it up on their phone in five seconds?

Just because people have the skills to make everything a bore doesn't mean they should make things a bore especially when it comes to things that a great many people enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:58:51 No.22053883 Report

Quoted By: >>22053936 >>22054086

>>22053856
Well having less time to waste is a good thing.

You romanticize "that kid" because it justified replay value for little but false hope or some treasures in the garden level bullshit.

Now you have time for to spend outside your Pokemon cart for other shit, maybe even play other games or learn a new skill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:59:52 No.22053901 Report

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>>22053855
because one is about some mystical spirit bullshit that somehow ascends above what can be found via datamining
>t-they're ghosts! that is why datamines cannot detect their presence!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 01:59:56 No.22053902 Report

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>>22053855
The difference being that video games back then did have cryptic things like that like the MK64 finish music changing if it looped 64 times.

Nowadays devs don't do these things and people have to force them in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:02:23 No.22053936 Report

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>>22053883
Jesus, are you like some marketer for a dystopian future or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:10:06 No.22054038 Report

Quoted By: >>22054109

Fun is dead. The sooner you accept it, the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:13:56 No.22054086 Report

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>>22053883
>Well having less time to waste is a good thing.
Except your time isn't the same as another person's time and if you consider it a waste of time why play video games in the first place?
Why not work on your skills instead and be more productive?

While it is more efficient in the long term it sucks away the fun out of the game if you know everything beforehand and the whole thing just becomes a tedious fetch quest instead of a fun adventure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:15:46 No.22054109 Report

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>>22054038
Fun isn't dead it's just that there are people with the
>if I can't have fun then no one can
mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:16:18 No.22054114 Report

Quoted By: >>22054330

>>22053717
I think you're missing the point, here. I don't get what sort of angle you're going for with 'People grow up and learn skills anon', but whatever. I was making an observation, not a lamentation.

I like and really appreciate being able to bring up a TM location and moveset list shortly after a game's release (for free), I don't have as much free time as I used to and don't really want to be looking around blindly for the one or two items I missed.
>>22053775
No shit, that was 2006.
>You're just actually online now.
I've been online pre-millennium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:35:44 No.22054318 Report

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>>22053817
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:36:43 No.22054330 Report

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>>22054114
Then you're just exposing yourself to all that shit more and more often. Most people on /vp/ are quite young--college age or even younger--and so they cry about how datamining and spoilers ruin modern games when that shit has been happening for years.

What the OP is complaining about, particularly the second, third, and fourth points, all have to do with deliberately exposing yourself to shitty communities like /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:37:19 No.22054338 Report

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>ITT: People defending wild goose chases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:43:49 No.22054426 Report

Quoted By: >>22054485

>>22051706
>Online making you feel like your favourite mon is trash or overused

This.

>love Kingler since gen 1
>level one up in Black
>take it online
>get one shot everytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:48:34 No.22054485 Report

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>>22054426

Kingler is a doubles mon, anon

it also has top tier defense to survive rock slide/eq spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:49:00 No.22054488 Report

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>>22054330
You're making a lot of baseless assumptions there.

And in the case of datamining, yes it has been happening for years but more and more people are paying attention to it now to the point where miners are like ecelebs to communities like here, reddit and so on, just look as Smea. They were barely a footnote some years ago and then there's the fact that nerd culture has evolved as well so spoilers aren't as easy to avoid because people want to appear hip and with the big nerd thing which in this case is pokemon.

Personally I don't mind spoilers and the death of exploration but I understand the plight of the people that do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:51:07 No.22054508 Report

Quoted By: >>22054530

>Implying the internet hasn't ruined every game
>Implying you are forced to use the internet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 02:53:00 No.22054530 Report

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>>22054508
>>Implying you are forced to use the internet
At this point you kind of are, every major job and a few minor ones require that you have internet access and then there's long distance communication.

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