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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 22:55:15 No.22065939 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22065949 >>22066029 >>22066349 >>22066424

when will GameFreak give this guy his HA so he can stop being a faster Meganium AKA shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 22:55:56 No.22065949 Report

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>>22065939
Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 22:56:24 No.22065959 Report

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Delta Emerald. When you get the Gen 2 and 5 starters they wil have their HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:01:22 No.22066029 Report

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>>22065939
Might be a stupid question but can't you breed for a hidden ability with a Ditto although it's quite rare?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:10:55 No.22066176 Report

Quoted By: >>22066349

I'm still waiting for Feraligatr too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:14:08 No.22066217 Report

Quoted By: >>22066290

>>22066029
Nope, HA is unreleased

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:18:53 No.22066290 Report

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>>22066217

Ah, I thought they were all obtainable somehow. My bad. Pretty shit they reveal the HA without giving you any way to get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:20:50 No.22066317 Report

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>>22066290
They didn't. People data mined the games and found it. They never released or announced the ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:22:36 No.22066349 Report

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>>22065939
>>22066176
with all this powercreep they'll remain NU even with their HAs released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:25:12 No.22066394 Report

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>>22066317
They did actually. You can fight them in the maison. Sometimes your AI partner has one too.

Fuckin Chatelaine used a HA Dragalge on me in XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:25:44 No.22066402 Report

Quoted By: >>22066424 >>22066688 >>22066815

>>22066349
It's bad even without the power creep. Like most Grass types, it has shit for moves, and the only thing it has that takes advantage of Contrary is Leaf Storm.

Enjoy having your only coverage options be Dragon Pulse and Hidden power.

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:27:29 No.22066424 Report

Quoted By: >>22066605 >>22067754

>>22065939
Just to clarify - Serperior is distinctly different from Meganium. And obviously, with Contrary, it'll become even more obvious.

>>22066402
Yep, I remember when /vp/ said Mega-Sableye would be outclassed by regular Sableye because it has meh defences and Magic Bounce is shit. Remember that?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:28:06 No.22066434 Report

Quoted By: >>22070857

>Serperior will never get draco meteor
>Sceptile will never get draco meteor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:30:01 No.22066469 Report

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Why does Serperior make the best waifu?

Reza !!/7jWWBrPE0D

Reza !!/7jWWBrPE0D Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:31:19 No.22066497 Report

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Feraligator with DDance+3 attacks with Sheer Force LifeOrb would be UU for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:36:11 No.22066605 Report

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>>22066424
Except HA Serperior has been available on simulators for years now you idiot, stupid people were making assumptions about Sableye even before we knew what its stats were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:39:54 No.22066688 Report

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>>22066402
Having thouroughly used one for a gen and a half, I can attest to this. HA Serperior got fucked over hard by the gen shift. Fairies made DP less spammable, and smogonfrog and bravest bird just shit all over him.

I've been running a bulky glare set with nature power this gen. He CAN be bulked up to take a banded BB but only once

Coil sets are almost better cause they can use knock off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:43:43 No.22066761 Report

Quoted By: >>22066952

>>22066688
Bulky sets work decently well since that's what its stats were meant for. I'm not sure why they decided to give it contrary of all things, trying to make it some kind of special attacker even though it doesn't really have the stats or the movepool to back that up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:46:56 No.22066815 Report

Quoted By: >>22066884

>>22066402

Would Contrary work with Burn Orb as it gets pretty good Tutor moves in ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:50:16 No.22066884 Report

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>>22066815
I was confused as to what you were asking for a second there. Contrary doesn't reverse burn's attack down, the tutor moves it got in ORAS arn't any different than the ones it goes back in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:53:22 No.22066952 Report

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>>22066761
Well with contrary, the bulky glare set just snowballs really fast. Coverage is still a huge problem though. It's like he wants to be a mixed attacker but work up isn't all that good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2014 23:58:17 No.22067050 Report

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>>22066952
it has acess to growth but it needs sun support to be usefull and making aqual tail weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 00:06:16 No.22067204 Report

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>>22066884

Ah, fair enough.

I missed BW2. Went straight from BW to X&Y so I didn't realise they had a good move tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 00:24:44 No.22067547 Report

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>>22066349
Yeah, i don't care. I play for the fun. Do you not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 00:40:06 No.22067754 Report

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>>22066424
Hey kid, how is Alomomola doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 04:32:02 No.22070836 Report

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I'd settle for Glare.

Serperior can be fun with fast screens but the the typing does not help it all

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 04:33:54 No.22070857 Report

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>>22066434

>Serperior with Draco Meteror, Leaf Storm, and Overheat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 04:37:37 No.22070902 Report

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He'd still be complete shit even with Contrary. That movepool is just depressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 04:40:27 No.22070958 Report

Quoted By: >>22072347

Everyone here is really underestimating Serperior's speed tier combined with a 130 BP STAB move that doubles as Nasty Plot. There's not way it would be NU, might even got to BL2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2014 06:20:36 No.22072347 Report

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>>22070958
I'd say UU at absolute best. Too much power creep for him to really thrive.

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