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Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:02:04 No.22080727 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22080935 >>22081018 >>22081125 >>22081214

WHY ISN'T MY LITERAL CHILDREN'S GAME HARDER THAN CONTRA?

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:03:20 No.22080751 Report

Quoted By: >>22080914

Because the Contra's actually pretty hard to play. ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:05:21 No.22080791 Report

Quoted By: >>22080969

>I want LESS things!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:05:25 No.22080792 Report

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I liked Contra as a kid. Stop babying them, they can handle some moderate challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:11:12 No.22080914 Report

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>>22080751
Fuck off tripfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:12:05 No.22080935 Report

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>>22080727
Contra is easy tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:13:35 No.22080969 Report

Quoted By: >>22080990 >>22081024 >>22081402

>>22080791
No-one here wants them to deliberately not include it, but most of us aren't autistic enough to sperg out when we don't get what we want. Seriously, grow up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:14:46 No.22080990 Report

Quoted By: >>22081008 >>22081021 >>22081086

>>22080969
>I like getting less for what I paid for

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:14:59 No.22080995 Report

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>I am an adult but I love that the game caters to children!
>People who like more content should shut up!
>I'll defend GF's decission to not offer me stuff!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:15:43 No.22081008 Report

Quoted By: >>22081021 >>22081075 >>22081108

>>22080990
Nigga you PAYED for a children's game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:16:11 No.22081018 Report

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>>22080727
Casual detected. I bet you didn't even play Emerald back in the day did you?

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:16:18 No.22081021 Report

Quoted By: >>22081060

>>22080990
Quality > Quantity

>>22081008
*paid
I'm tired of your mentality, /v/. Pokemon isn't exclusively for children, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:16:24 No.22081024 Report

Quoted By: >>22081037 >>22081038 >>22081086

>>22080969
Then I hope you'll enjoy your DP remakes without that postgame island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:17:00 No.22081037 Report

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>>22081024
I don't even want d/p remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:17:01 No.22081038 Report

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>>22081024
You mean no distortion world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:17:51 No.22081060 Report

Quoted By: >>22081208

>>22081021
>/v/
>continuing to tripfag even though everyone knows you're underage
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:19:03 No.22081075 Report

Quoted By: >>22081107

>>22081008
>Nigga you PAYED for a children's game.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/01/pokemons-audience-growing-older/

Nigger, kids aren't playing anymore. Not a valid excuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:19:39 No.22081086 Report

Quoted By: >>22081143 >>22081431

>>22080990
Read what I said. Most people don't "like" it, but we're not going to throw a tantrum because we're not children.

>>22081024
DP had the post-game island as well. They're more likely to drop the distortion world and make the story revolve around Dialga/Palkia, although they'll probably end up making something similar to the Delta Episode for Giratina that includes it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:20:50 No.22081107 Report

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>>22081075
It's a children's game, it always has been.
They're obviously trying to rope more children in.
Their older fans can't stick around forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:20:51 No.22081108 Report

Quoted By: >>22081147

>>22081008
Actually, I paid a price that, for instance, almost every other game on Steam that isn't a recent release would be cheaper. So I'd say I paid for an actual game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:21:37 No.22081125 Report

Quoted By: >>22081171

>>22080727
A lot of Nintendo's other literal children's games are harder than three Contras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:22:36 No.22081143 Report

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>>22081086
Giratina's a much darker Pokemon than Rayquaza, and they managed to make Rayquaza's story to have a fairly heavy tone, so if Giratina gets a Delta Episode, it's going to be 2edgy4me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:22:44 No.22081147 Report

Quoted By: >>22081195

>>22081108
Then return it and get some of your money back if your not happy with your purchase. Stop acting like a child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:23:39 No.22081171 Report

Quoted By: >>22081401 >>22081647

>>22081125
Name one that came out after 2005.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:23:58 No.22081179 Report

Quoted By: >>22081238 >>22081348

What are some cons to having difficulty options? The only ones I can think of is that it'll eat up a slightly larger amount of development time from needing to have multiple teams for the same character, and playtesting will be slightly harder, but the consumer isn't negatively affected by these things. Easy mode would be good for children and people who are only just getting into the series, normal mode is good for people who don't care, and hard mode is good for the people who are familiar with the series who want something a bit harder this time around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:24:53 No.22081195 Report

Quoted By: >>22081264

>>22081147
You keep accusing people of being children when they complain of something, especially when the developers themselves are almost directly and explicitly saying "Fuck you, we don't want you as an audience even though you are the largest profit by far"

This isn't a problem of just one game that I return and get my money back. This is a problem where people are most concerned with what's gonna happen to the franchise in the future as a whole, and by the looks of this it's not going to be the best.

To you, every complaint about anything must be acting like a child. That's kinda pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:25:16 No.22081208 Report

Quoted By: >>22081348

>>22081060
Retards like you is what keep that faggot around. Stop being autistic and don't give him attention. Damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:25:42 No.22081214 Report

Quoted By: >>22081323

>>22080727
The least they could have done is included a challenge mode like in gen 5.
But no, no one has the time for that or for battle frontier according to gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:26:49 No.22081238 Report

Quoted By: >>22081426

>>22081179
I refuse to believe the difficulty options in Black and White 2 took up more than a few hours. All they did was raise or lower the levels, and add in a Pokemon for hard mode. You don't even really need to playtest those extensively, since you know that players need to go out of their way to change the difficulty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:27:33 No.22081264 Report

Quoted By: >>22081309 >>22081412

>>22081195
>This is a problem where people are most concerned with what's gonna happen to the franchise in the future as a whole, and by the looks of this it's not going to be the best.
When will you realise that you are no longer the target audience for Pokemon? Pokemon is aimed primarily at children, it always has been. If you don't like where the franchise is heading then stop supporting it, it's as simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:28:58 No.22081279 Report

Quoted By: >>22081375

Can you retards please stop shitting up this board with "wahh no frontier gf sucksoras worst games!!"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:30:15 No.22081309 Report

Quoted By: >>22081353

>>22081264
Yes, thank you for stating the obvious.
Now how about you stop being so dense and realize that people are concerned over this because they don't want the franchise to go that way.

I don't think anyone who grew up with Pokemon wants to see it die a death (to the older players) in which it is casualized to the mobile gamers.

But hey, if you don't like the complaints around here, then stop browsing /vp/. It is as simple as that, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:31:20 No.22081323 Report

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>>22081214
To be honest, I would have been okay with Gamefreak if they just said something like "we didn't have enough time to develop the BF and implant difficulties due to tight schedules and we're unable to change this because of newer projects and their tight schedules". That's understandable, didn't they only have a year to develop this? But their excuse was incredibly lazy. Surely they could have thought of something other than that.

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:32:49 No.22081348 Report

Quoted By: >>22081407 >>22081426

>>22081208
Actually, I'm still around because I like pokemon. Which is ironic because lots /vp/'s current userbase is here because they hate pokemon. Weird.

>>22081179
>but the consumer isn't negatively affected by these things
That's an awfully selfish way of thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:33:04 No.22081353 Report

Quoted By: >>22081396

>>22081309
>I don't think anyone who grew up with Pokemon wants to see it die a death
This is exactly what genwunners believed, yet /vp/ ridiculed them. /vp/ is the Pokemon board, so if you dislike Pokemon then leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:34:12 No.22081375 Report

Quoted By: >>22081405 >>22081445

>>22081279
At least it's an actual discussion topic.

>Showderp
>Wifi general
>Giveaway General
>What is Pokemon Clover?
>Pokeaus
>Goodra shitposting
>Powersaves General
>Pokegen Thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:35:25 No.22081396 Report

Quoted By: >>22081434

>>22081353
>so if you dislike Pokemon then leave
You just gotta love it when people jump to stupid conclusions just to act like they have a point.

The fucking difference between genwunners and this is that genwunners complain about nothing more than nostalgia shit. Their main problem comes from them thinking that anything beyond the 151 Pokemon, there should have been nothing more.

If you relate that to not wanting the games to become too fucking easy and removing features from them just because they can't be assed to care about their whole playerbase, then you've got bigger problems to evaluate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:35:46 No.22081401 Report

Quoted By: >>22081427

>>22081171
Donkey Kong Country Returns

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:35:46 No.22081402 Report

Quoted By: >>22081473 >>22081476 >>22081490 >>22081498 >>22081815

>>22080969
Things we have lost from earlier games:
Following Pokemon (Yellow to GS)
Surfing Minigame (Yellow to GS)
Safari Zone (RGBY to GS)
Seafoam Islands (RGBY to GS)
Animation (Crystal to RS)
Day/Night cycle (GSC to RS)
Days of the Week (GSC to RS)
Cellphone (GSC to RS)
Radio (GSC to RS)
Whirlpool HM (GSC to RS)
Flash HM (RSE to DP)
Dive HM (RSE to DP)
Battle Frontier (Emerald to DP, Platinum to BW)
Contests (DPP to BW)
Following Pokemon (HGSS to BW)

Oh, your tragedy is such a great tragedy, the greatest of tragedies, the only ever tragedy which we have never and will never experience of such magnitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:35:55 No.22081405 Report

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>>22081375
It's not actual discussion, it's just people posting "MUH BF". At least the other threads accomplish something (except the Goodra threads).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:36:05 No.22081407 Report

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>>22081348
Consumers should be selfish. Multi-million-dollar corporations don't need or deserve our sympathy, and if we don't demand more, they'll always make us settle for less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:36:11 No.22081412 Report

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>>22081264
>When will you realise that you are no longer the target audience for Pokemon? Pokemon is aimed primarily at children, it always has been. If you don't like where the franchise is heading then stop supporting it, it's as simple as that.
Kids aren't buying the games anymore. What part of that don't you understand?

There target audience could be fucking cats, they aren't the ones playing the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:37:21 No.22081426 Report

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>>22081238
That's true, it doesn't take much effort doing that at all.

>>22081348
>That's an awfully selfish way of thinking.
Please explain how. It's not like they're a team of 5 or so people where temporarily putting more effort into a certain part of the game would halt development in other areas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:37:22 No.22081427 Report

Quoted By: >>22081647

>>22081401
It was of average difficulty, nothing more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:37:29 No.22081431 Report

Quoted By: >>22081456

>>22081086

So basically you're just being a condescending faggot to people who are rightfully upset, rather than addressing the issue or being constructive. I'm glad people being mad makes you feel better about yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:37:43 No.22081434 Report

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>>22081396
>not wanting the games to become too fucking easy
The games were always easy.

>removing features
A feature that you played once and haven't touched in 8 years

I think you need to re-evaluate why you play Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:38:58 No.22081445 Report

Quoted By: >>22081555

>>22081375
Just filter them like I did. This is just a bunch of babies crying "muh Battle Frontier", don't get me wrong I wanted it but I've moved on which I guess these people can't.

They'll still but the next games, they may "hate" Masuda and Gf but they will continue to buy these games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:39:37 No.22081456 Report

Quoted By: >>22081507

>>22081431
Complaining on an anonymous imageboard isn't addressing anything. Start a petition or something if you want to actually address it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:40:32 No.22081473 Report

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>>22081402
Half this list is retarded to complain about anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:40:55 No.22081476 Report

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>>22081402
We also lost berry planting from Gen 4 to Gen 5, and seasons from Gen 5 to Gen 6.

And people complained plenty about the Day/Night cycle, Contests, and following Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:41:38 No.22081488 Report

Quoted By: >>22081691

I finished AS yesterday and I've been avoiding /vp/ since release, so is the general consensus that the games are too easy just like X/Y?
I personally didn't have a problem with it but that's because of various reasons. I spent way too much time switching between Pokemon so that my main team would always be underleveled. Watson, Norman, Winona and Wally were all pretty difficult for me, had to rely on my entire party to take them out. I also had battle style on set, exp. share off and most of my team were Pokemon that aren't too good but I liked them, Masquerain, Minun, Spinda being a few.
The champion battle was especially hard, my team was around level 49 overall and Steven's was 57, Mega-Metagross being Steven's strongest at level 59, I was one attack away from losing, Steven using Giga Impact on one of my Pokemon that had almost fainted gave me a chance to attack first next turn since it had to recharge, only reason why I won but with that I guess you could argue that the AI is a little silly too.
Even despite everything I did to make the games harder I still imagine X/Y to be a lot easier but since I'm curious, I plan to buy Emerald soon to do a comparison, should be fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:41:56 No.22081490 Report

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>>22081402
I'd say contests are the only one of those which is of comparable significance to the Battle Frontier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:42:11 No.22081498 Report

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>>22081402
Don't forget the PWT and Join Avenue from BW2 to XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:42:53 No.22081507 Report

Quoted By: >>22081540 >>22081557 >>22081573

>>22081456
Do petitions even do anything? Maybe for smaller companies but larger ones have no reason to listen to a couple of signatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:44:40 No.22081540 Report

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>>22081507
They sure have better chances to accomplish something than random rambling on an anonymous imageboard or spamming complaints on someone's twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:45:28 No.22081555 Report

Quoted By: >>22081634

>>22081445
Ha ha no. I never bought ORAS to start with because I was paranoid that shit was going to hit the fan. Turns out the paranoia was right and now I'm officially done with Pokemon for the rest of this generation and beyond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:45:33 No.22081557 Report

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>>22081507
A petition got target to remove GTA 5 from there stores

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:46:06 No.22081573 Report

Quoted By: >>22081703

>>22081507
It worked with Operation Rainfall and it possibly convinced Nintendo to remake Majora's Mask for 3DS. If enough people show interest then they may do something about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:49:49 No.22081634 Report

Quoted By: >>22081710

>>22081555
Good. Now you can finally stop posting on most of this board's threads. And I really hope you do that, for everyone's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:50:32 No.22081647 Report

Quoted By:

>>22081171
>>22081427
Super Mario 3D World.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:52:51 No.22081691 Report

Quoted By: >>22081876

>>22081488

Just remember that Emerald is still in Gen III rules.

Oh the days where Leaf Blade was actually useful on Sceptile....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:53:19 No.22081703 Report

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>>22081573
Official word is that Rainfall and Moonfall were both irrelevant to the decision to release those things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:53:41 No.22081710 Report

Quoted By:

>>22081634
I'm here only because I need to vent but yeah do filter me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 01:59:44 No.22081815 Report

Quoted By:

>>22081402
RSE had day/night, it just wasn't visible. FRLG didn't have it at all though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 02:00:38 No.22081832 Report

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>Contra
>hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2014 02:03:25 No.22081876 Report

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>>22081691
I played Colloseum/XD again sort of recently so I'm kind of used to no physical/special split.
One of the complaints I had with ORAS is that the trainers had 1-2 Pokemon, 3 sometimes but very rarely. It's not so much that it made it easier (although this is also a part of why I don't like it) but because it's really damn boring.
I don't remember very well but do the Gen 3 Emerald trainers have more Pokemon?

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