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fuck this thing Wed 10 Dec 2014 02:58:09 No.22110840 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22111114 >>22111183 >>22115895 >>22116448 >>22116597 >>22116627 >>22116671 >>22116754 >>22116818 >>22125631 >>22128910

>megagross is gonna be UU
>it's shit! no coverage
well ya dun goof'd again, /vp/. How the fuck do you counter this thing without skarmory? zen headbutt 2hkos rotom you fucking faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 02:59:58 No.22110857 Report

Quoted By: >>22110886 >>22111497 >>22116671

Cresselia, Slowbro, Mandibuzz, Alomomola.

Then again, it might have juuuuust the right fourth move for your counter. So whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:00:30 No.22110864 Report

Quoted By: >>22116053

x used fire blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:02:33 No.22110886 Report

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Bronzong.

>>22110857
What fourth move could Metagross have to counter Cresselia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:06:27 No.22110927 Report

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>/vp/ is wrong about something
Holey moley, isn't this a shocker.

Seriously, never take us seriously. We're always full of shit and wrongness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:07:48 No.22110949 Report

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Mega Rayquaza, V-Create. Roast robot for dinner.
Why would you use anything else?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:09:10 No.22110964 Report

Quoted By: >>22111008 >>22111018 >>22111029 >>22111418 >>22114064 >>22115989 >>22116621 >>22116671 >>22116850

Getting real tired of this shit

You fags always tell me how m-metagross is an absolute rape machine that cant be stopped once it gets going

But when i ask for a moveset you guys always back out and tell me to check smogon

So what the fuck should i run on Metagross to make it good?

Ice punch for garchomp, gliscor and landorus, Zen headbutt for rotom, keldeo and venusaur, Earthquake? Meteor mash? Bullet Punch? and what's in the last slot? bulky Agility? Pls, metagross is my favorite pokemon but i suck at using it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:12:27 No.22111008 Report

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>>22110964
Meteor Mash and the last slot is Earthquake by default.
If you're having a hard time with this of all things, yiu may have to find a new favorite or find an easier franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:13:27 No.22111013 Report

Quoted By: >>22111045 >>22111050 >>22115844

> M-Swampert used Earthquake
> It's super effective!
> Opponent has disconnected

or

> Primal Groudon used Precipice Blades/Overheat
> It's super effective!
> Opponent has disconnected

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:13:51 No.22111018 Report

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>>22110964
Meteor Mash for STAB and a chance to buff attack and depending, Bullet Punch can be useful against faster more frail things, you could even roll with Grass Knot for hitting water types and still getting the TC boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:14:44 No.22111029 Report

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>>22110964
Mash, Bullet punch, zen headbutt and earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:16:03 No.22111045 Report

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>>22111013
>either one switching in
>using ubers
fuck you and learn what a counter is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:16:28 No.22111050 Report

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>>22111013
You realize there are ways around both of those. Or you could, I dunno, switch. Having two counters doesn't make it any less borked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:17:54 No.22111059 Report

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Mega Aggron walls it completely. Superior Steel type 5ever.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:22:58 No.22111114 Report

Quoted By: >>22111157 >>22111187 >>22111188

>>22110840
What the fuck did you expect from a community of autists and children OP? We don't know shit about anything, we just like to circlejerk and act like we know what's best. That's all we do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:25:42 No.22111157 Report

Quoted By: >>22111184

>>22111114
Maybe that's what you do, you cretin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:27:24 No.22111183 Report

Quoted By: >>22111217 >>22111371

>>22110840
Scarf any mon that can hit it hard.

If you dont have a scarfer on your team at this point I feel bad for you.
This is why /vp/ is the worst battling community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:27:31 No.22111184 Report

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>>22111157
>denial

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:27:50 No.22111187 Report

Quoted By: >>22111202

>>22111114
so close to >22111111

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:27:51 No.22111188 Report

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>>22111114
There's no circlejerking here. Just senseless and repetitive fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:28:51 No.22111202 Report

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>>22111187
I know how to do >>22111111 I swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:29:48 No.22111217 Report

Quoted By: >>22111230 >>22111899

>>22111183
If you put like 80 EVs in HP even scarfed landorus cant kill it with EQ, much less garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:30:42 No.22111230 Report

Quoted By: >>22111397 >>22116671

>>22111217
but darmanitan, hydreigon, fucking crawdaunt counters this thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:36:30 No.22111309 Report

Quoted By: >>22111342 >>22111569

/vp/ has also said that;

>Charizard X would be UU at best
>Sableye would be shit because muhPrankster
>Gallade and Sceptile would both be shit because of their abilities
>Mega Lucario would be inferior to LO Lucario because muh LO Extremespeed
>Swampert would be one of the best Pokemon in OU

If you haven't noticed yet /vp/ fucking sucks at competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:38:22 No.22111342 Report

Quoted By: >>22111391

>>22111309
thats why reddits winning

>tfw people on /vp/ complain more than they battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:39:47 No.22111371 Report

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>>22111183
if you dont know what a counter is at this point, i feel bad for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:41:00 No.22111391 Report

Quoted By: >>22111537 >>22111555 >>22111861

>>22111342
>Reddit has a set group of genuine 'mlg' Pokémon experts amassing to be the very best like no one ever was
>/vp/ has Showderp

What did you expect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:41:28 No.22111397 Report

Quoted By: >>22111458 >>22111511

>>22111230
>Hydreigon
252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon: 255-301 (78.2 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>Darmanitan
252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darmanitan: 186-220 (52.9 - 62.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>Crawdaunt
252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Crawdaunt: 133-157 (49.6 - 58.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO

And this isn't even counting coverage moves like EQ/Hammer Arm/Grass Knot.

Sure, they can revenge kill maybe. But counters they are not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:43:14 No.22111418 Report

Quoted By: >>22111444

>>22110964
Ladies and gentletrainers, the type of person the Battle Frontier was removed for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:46:12 No.22111444 Report

Quoted By: >>22111469

>>22111418
How in the ever perceptible fuck does that have anything to do with the Frontier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:47:16 No.22111458 Report

Quoted By: >>22111469

>>22111397
they still aren't counters, but those calcs are Adamant. Running Adamant Megagross is incredibly fucking stupid unless you're Agility, but then you won't outspeed any of those threats except Crawdaunt to go for the 2HKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:48:19 No.22111466 Report

Quoted By: >>22111486 >>22111563 >>22116671

I haven't played in a month, but probably Porygon2.

Metagross doesn't have a STAB Fighting attack or Knock Off.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:48:28 No.22111469 Report

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>>22111444
It's probably shitposting for the sake of shitposting

>dose numberoos

>>22111458
His best set currently uses rock polish with EVs in HP and adamant nature

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:50:00 No.22111486 Report

Quoted By: >>22111536

>>22111466
You know a pokemon is good when shitmons like Porygon rise in usage or are even mentioned as counters/checks to any other pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:50:33 No.22111497 Report

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>>22110857
>mandibuzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:51:54 No.22111511 Report

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>>22111397
It's a mega, they get kills, sorry but I think thats the point of them.

If you wanna wallfag with slowbro go ahead, just have fun playing the game like a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:54:07 No.22111536 Report

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>>22111486

I was wrong anyways, it 2HKOs with Hammer Arm.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:54:09 No.22111537 Report

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>>22111391
Tell these mlg faggots to drop by sometime so we can teach them a lesson or two.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:55:58 No.22111555 Report

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>>22111391
It's like reddit is becoming better than us and the rejects just come here like deformed spartan babies and sprout shitty unfunny memes and derail discussion while reddit flourishes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:57:01 No.22111563 Report

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>>22111466
TC Hammer Arm still hurts it I'm pretty sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:57:59 No.22111569 Report

Quoted By: >>22111622 >>22111627 >>22111750 >>22125207

>>22111309
How is M-Swampert doing anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:59:10 No.22111587 Report

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I can see dual screens and Memento becoming hip just to give Pokemon a chance to switch into the new Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 03:59:47 No.22111593 Report

Quoted By: >>22111664

A standard Mega Aggron walls this thing hard even if this thing uses earthquake.
252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 84-100 (24.4 - 29%) -- 99.6% chance to 4HKO

Regular Aggron, not so much
252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Aggron: 280-332 (81.3 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Pretty much Aggron itself isn't a reliable counter but its mega is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:02:50 No.22111622 Report

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>>22111569
It's pretty much an alternative to Kabutops on rain teams, it hits slightly weaker and doesn't have priority but makes up for it with way better bulk, STAB Earthquake, and access to coverage moves like Ice Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:03:27 No.22111627 Report

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>>22111569
it's meh, outclassed by kabutops albeit more bulky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:07:32 No.22111664 Report

Quoted By: >>22111718

>>22111593
Some Mega Metagross actually run Hammer Arm over Earthquake to hit Roosting Skarmory and get coverage against Ferrothorn. It's also boosted by Tough Claws:

252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 111-132 (32.2 - 38.3%) -- 96.9% chance to 3HKO

Additionally, Mega Aggron can survive stuff, but it can't do it repeatedly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:08:39 No.22111674 Report

Quoted By: >>22111710 >>22111711 >>22111726

How is Sableye doing? I haven't been following the game much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:11:20 No.22111710 Report

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>>22111674
Pretty much solos stall for free and isn't too bad against offensive teams either

Good bulk + magic bounce + calm mind is pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:11:21 No.22111711 Report

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>>22111674
Top threat, some people want it in S-rank on the viability ranking thread.

It's become a staple on stall- and defensively-based teams since it can just reflect common stallbreaking moves such as Toxic, will-o-wisp, and Taunt, while not being a sitting duck by setting up Calm Mind sweeps. Just get rid of hard hitters and fairies and you should be set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:12:02 No.22111718 Report

Quoted By: >>22111721 >>22111726 >>22111728

>>22111664
>Roosting Skarmory
but gross is faster...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:12:38 No.22111721 Report

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>>22111718
Gross becomes slower with each Hammer Arm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:13:11 No.22111726 Report

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>>22111674
Pretty good.

If you can get Gardevoir out of the way it's powerful and really annoying.

>>22111718
Hammer Arm lowers your speed, at -1 or -2 it becomes slower than Skarm and it can no longer safely Roost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:13:18 No.22111728 Report

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>>22111718

Not after a couple hammer arms it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:15:36 No.22111750 Report

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>>22111569
It's not bad, but its not the broken sanic bruiser /vp/ was hailing it to be at first.

It and Kabutops compete for a similar role. Swampert's generally used on more bulky offense rain variants. Occasionally you'll see both, which is surprisingly good.

It may not stay OU, but it's definitely viable in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:28:17 No.22111861 Report

Quoted By: >>22116462

>>22111391
w-we got cpg t-though
that counts r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:31:26 No.22111899 Report

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>>22111217

Garchomp at least stops it with rough skin

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:32:29 No.22111913 Report

Quoted By: >>22116671

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 04:38:05 No.22111989 Report

Quoted By: >>22114450

The counters for this are only varied depending on the set. However, it's by no means broken.

Having no counters doesn't make a Pokemon instantly broken.. in fact, there's a ton of Pokemon with no true counters. Hell, last gen, Hydreigon had no counters, and yet we never saw that become a huge issue.

M-Meta is amazing, but it's still weak to common offensive types. Furthermore, it has 4MSS making it rely on teammates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 08:34:31 No.22114064 Report

Quoted By: >>22117016

>>22110964
>But when i ask for a moveset you guys always back out and tell me to check smogon
Because Smogon would know better than a bunch of anonymous shitters of /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 09:50:26 No.22114450 Report

Quoted By: >>22114469

>>22111989
Wasn't Hydreigon hard countered by just Blissey, not even requiring Chansey?
I'd think even Rotom Wash could handle everything Hydreigon does. Its outrages can't be that strong. Especially since Rotom had will-o-wisp last gen too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 09:52:54 No.22114469 Report

Quoted By: >>22114478

>>22114450
I believe that's why hydreigon started running superpower to deal with the pink blobs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 09:54:31 No.22114478 Report

Quoted By: >>22116728

>>22114469
Oh true.

But I'd think any variant of Hydreigon still couldn't do anything to specially defensive Rotom-W running will-o-wisp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 12:34:28 No.22115244 Report

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look at this fucking metagross is the shit ripping everything apart
http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou-191414029
with this team 10-0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:23:05 No.22115844 Report

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>>22111013
>Metagross used Grass Knot!

>Metagross used Earthquake!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:31:29 No.22115895 Report

Quoted By: >>22115938 >>22116023

>>22110840
>Arcanine used Flare Blitz!

No seriously, it got good. Any banded SE move will take it down since it's still slow as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:40:37 No.22115937 Report

Quoted By: >>22115946

Can't Scarfed Magnezone outspeed and 2hko Megagross with HP Fire? I'd imagine it could switch into a resisted hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:40:49 No.22115938 Report

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>>22115895
>110 speed
>slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:42:23 No.22115946 Report

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>>22115937
EQ/Hammer Arm, bitch nigga. It sure as hell ain't switching into either without getting KO'd next turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:50:48 No.22115989 Report

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>>22110964
yo can run a sweep set with 3 moves and agility or a bulkier set with 4 moves BP and Iron head
brick break is the same power as EQ with though claw>

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:56:09 No.22116023 Report

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>>22115895
>base 110 speed
>slow
>using bands in ORAS OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 14:59:06 No.22116040 Report

Quoted By: >>22116092

Plenty of Pokemon could revenge kill, like Charizard Y.
But to switch in on it is another ball game entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:01:06 No.22116053 Report

Quoted By: >>22116070

>>22110864
>I sure showed him :^)
>my favorite Pokemon don't have ANY weaknesses!
>My favorite Pokemon is one that I made called Godzillachu
>all his moves are OHKO and his ability makes it so he can't take damage :^)

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:05:00 No.22116070 Report

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>>22116053
Godzillachu has nothing on this guy
http://pastebin.com/9ZqkK3vh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:09:48 No.22116092 Report

Quoted By: >>22116132 >>22116153

>>22116040
It's hard for even ZardY to revenge kill it if it's running a fast set.

252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard Y: 229-271 (77.1 - 91.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And then on the chance it's packing Thunderpunch for some reason (like for regular Gyarados or Azumarill) you're fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:13:52 No.22116132 Report

Quoted By: >>22116171

>>22116092
Zen Headbutt would be something that it would have to take to get it out of the way.
Thunderpunch or any rock move would throw a wrench in that though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:16:22 No.22116153 Report

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>>22116092
Every good Megagross set is a fast set, it ties with Lati twins and it allows it outspeed Keldeo and under, no one is gonna pass that shit up.

The only slower sets(adamant, some bulk) are Rock Polish sets, which don't really get sent out till it's safe to go fast.

I don't think it's broken from any perspective though, it has answers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:16:35 No.22116159 Report

Quoted By: >>22116170 >>22116175

Is there a place where I can watch decent OU battles? YouTuber or something? Sifitng through showdown replays is a chore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:17:50 No.22116170 Report

Quoted By: >>22116178 >>22116188

>>22116159
There's a few channels, I'll probably get hate for this but you can try Pokeaim.

Wait for SPL if you want lots of battles, they'll likely put up a replay thread and a bunch of it will go on youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:18:15 No.22116171 Report

Quoted By: >>22116182

>>22116132
Zard Y has to be completely fresh in order to take it out though. Gotta deal with sneaky pebbles really well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:19:02 No.22116175 Report

Quoted By: >>22116188

>>22116159
PokeaimMD gets some hate because "muh youtube celeb" but he is a decent battler who has been rank 1 on both PS and PO in the past.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:19:16 No.22116178 Report

Quoted By: >>22116571

>>22116170
Why would /vp/ hate Pokeaim though. He seems alright for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:19:52 No.22116182 Report

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>>22116171
Most Metagross have something to take on pokemon like ZardY anyways.

Like Hydreigon was mentioned here, Keldeo does well but I guess that can't really safely switch into ZardY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:20:12 No.22116188 Report

Quoted By:

>>22116170
>>22116175
Thanks friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 15:59:02 No.22116448 Report

Quoted By:

>>22110840
Will-o-wisp

HENRY G THE MEME

HENRY G THE MEME Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:01:37 No.22116462 Report

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>>22111861
Some of the lobbyfags in the cpg lobby are better than everyone on reddit, trust me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:23:12 No.22116571 Report

Quoted By: >>22116829 >>22117163

>>22116178
Because he only likes to upload wins and if you ever say something, his dickriders will jump at you saying "but he uploaded 3 months ago a replay of him losing to 3 Pokemon!!!!!!", almost as if that mattered and he doesn't upload on a daily basis. That, and he's been sucking serious Smogon cock for the sake of getting modded, and he's finally achieved it.

All in all, I'd tell whoever wanted to watch games to watch Blunder, as long as you can get past his stall hate, and Chimpact's comment videos. As much as I shit on Chimpact as a player, he's improved a lot, and his commentary games generally are of two good players against each other, so it's like watching a tournament replay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:27:50 No.22116597 Report

Quoted By: >>22116671 >>22116722 >>22116780

>>22110840
Shedinja

Come at me bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:30:45 No.22116621 Report

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>>22110964
You run whatever is appropriate for your team. Megagross has about 7-8 move options, and most are interchangeable with each other depending on what you need to hit if the rest of the team is weak or over saturated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:31:30 No.22116627 Report

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>>22110840
But it is shit, dies to fire, dark, ghost, ground and neckbeards :^(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:36:10 No.22116671 Report

Quoted By: >>22116786 >>22116788 >>22116862

>>22110840
>Skarmory
Hammer Arm allows it to outslow Skarmory's Roosts, good luck stalling it out unless you're Rocky Helmet

>>22110857
>Cress
Meteor Mash breaks right through it and Cress can't do shit back

>Slowbro
Grass Knot gets boosted by Tough Claws and is the best move for hitting Slowbro

>Mandibuzz
252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Ice Punch vs. 248 HP / 136+ Def Mandibuzz: 182-216 (43 - 51%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

Even Meteor Mash is 81% chance to 2HKO, so it's not a reliable switch in either

>Alomomola
Grass Knot again

>>22110964
Meteor Mash/Zen/Hammer Arm + Grass Knot/Ice Punch/Thunder Punch/EQ is the best set, adjust the coverage to what you really need

>>22111230
>all those 3
Good luck switching Crawdaunt and Hydreigon into Hammer Arm and good luck with Darmanitan bulking ANYTHING

>>22111466
Can't switch in
252 Atk Tough Claws Metagross Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Porygon2: 162-192 (43.3 - 51.3%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

>>22111913
Probably the only correct answer, shame Bronzong is so shit now

>>22116597
Sneaky pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:41:37 No.22116722 Report

Quoted By: >>22116778

>>22116597
if we're running unviable shit then metagross gets rock slide

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:42:34 No.22116728 Report

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>>22114478
Specs Drey can 2HKO specially defensive Rotom-W.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 234-276 (76.9 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

And LifeOrb drey can 2KO with a Dark Pulse followed by a DMeteor.
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 125-148 (41.1 - 48.6%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 203-239 (66.7 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:46:56 No.22116754 Report

Quoted By: >>22116777

>>22110840
metagross sucks with its shitty baby dmg and dieing from everything, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:49:59 No.22116771 Report

Quoted By: >>22116777

jolly metagross sucks, deals no dmg and dies instantly, adamant metagross is only good with agility/rockpolish and is so easy to counter without any coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:50:42 No.22116777 Report

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>>22116771
>>22116754
nice shitposting!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:50:46 No.22116778 Report

Quoted By: >>22116884

>>22116722
>unviable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:51:12 No.22116780 Report

Quoted By:

>>22116597
Rock Side
Pursuit
Sneaky Pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:52:15 No.22116786 Report

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>>22116671
Grass Knot isn't doing shit to SpDef Alomomola.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:52:24 No.22116788 Report

Quoted By: >>22116801 >>22116805 >>22116808 >>22116810

>>22116671
>grass knot
>boosted by tough claws
Time to stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:54:11 No.22116801 Report

Quoted By: >>22116844

>>22116788
Except it is, retard.

It's a special contact move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:54:43 No.22116805 Report

Quoted By: >>22116844

>>22116788
Grass Knot is a contact move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:55:07 No.22116808 Report

Quoted By: >>22116844

>>22116788
Way to make yourself look like a idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:55:23 No.22116810 Report

Quoted By: >>22116844

>>22116788
B8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:56:21 No.22116818 Report

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>>22110840
Burn it and take away it's ability. Cofagriegus is perfect Megagross counter and I use the term quite loosely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 16:57:50 No.22116829 Report

Quoted By: >>22116848

>>22116571
>blunder
>alright I'm gonna go for this, he aint real
>gets played
>oh my guwd such garbage player wow
Fuck that fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:00:14 No.22116844 Report

Quoted By: >>22117624

>>22116801
>>22116805
>>22116808
>>22116810
Wow. Next you're going to tell me Earthquake ISN'T boosted by Tough Claws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:00:36 No.22116848 Report

Quoted By: >>22117198

>>22116829
He only really calls the other player garbage when the play was really really bad, like trying to Thunderbolt something that would take no damage from it, but getting the paralysis and thus haxing the Pokemon out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:00:45 No.22116850 Report

Quoted By: >>22116875

>>22110964
You can try:
@Metagrossite
Adamant
252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spe
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Ice-Punch

One agility and it outspeeds a Deoxys-S with max speed by 8 points at level 100, and 5 at 50.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:01:38 No.22116862 Report

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>>22116671
Alomomola doesn't take that much damage from 4 SpA Grass Knot (unlike Slowbro who gets raped by it), but specially defensive Alo gets wrecked by Thunderpunch on the same token, and Alo in general can't do much aside from try to burn with Scald.

Megagross is a pretty big threat, not unbeatable but it's damn scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:03:53 No.22116875 Report

Quoted By: >>22116978

>>22116850
Make it faster so it outspeeds Scarfed base 110s after Agility

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:04:23 No.22116879 Report

Quoted By: >>22121425

Soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:04:56 No.22116884 Report

Quoted By:

>>22116778
>instantly dies to any status
>instantly dies to hazards
>takes two hits to kill with sash
>slow as shit
>90 attack
>not unviable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:16:51 No.22116978 Report

Quoted By: >>22117029

>>22116875
So something like:
140 Hp/252 Attack/ 112 Speed
could outspeed Scarfed Greninja after the boost. Anything that's Scarfed and faster you usually don't want to stay in on. (Talonflame)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:21:19 No.22117016 Report

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>>22114064
Thats because 95% of the time we would suggest the same moves as Smogon because face it, Meteor Mash/Zen/Ice Punch/EQ is about the strongest set for Metagross and anyone with a general knowledge of pokemon is going to be able to see that and come up with pretty much the same moveset without any help.
Same goes for just about every pokemon's moves, they are almost always pretty straight forward, any fan site is going to have a list of every pokemon's moves, just pick the best 4 for the best fit on your team.
So instead of having an entire thread about when to use Hammer Arm instead of Zen Headbut or vice versa for a better team fit, we just tell people who have already admitted that they can't or don't want to think for themselves by asking for movesets here, to go where the same movesets we would give are already written down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:22:24 No.22117029 Report

Quoted By: >>22117060

>>22116978
Scarfed Talonflame does jack shit damage even with Flare Blitz and will likely die to Ice Punch after recoil.

252+ Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 222-264 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:24:16 No.22117060 Report

Quoted By: >>22117077

>>22117029
>scarf talonflame
What am I reading

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:26:41 No.22117077 Report

Quoted By: >>22117085

>>22117060
I read that wrong, I thought he was saying Scarf Talon.

Still, doesn't do much without a Band.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:27:10 No.22117085 Report

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>>22117077
No you read it right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:36:15 No.22117163 Report

Quoted By: >>22117850

>>22116571
>Because he only likes to upload wins
He got BTFO by a Jap player on ORAS Wifi this one time though. IDK how many other losses he has vids of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 17:39:45 No.22117198 Report

Quoted By: >>22117850

>>22116848
no. hax asides he acts like he is unpredictable and if he gets predicted, it's a garbage play. Faggotry of the likes of that swagilyph faggot, too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 18:18:08 No.22117624 Report

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>>22116844
Nice attempted cover to make it look like your first comment was bait

You were wrong faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 18:39:13 No.22117850 Report

Quoted By: >>22117901

>>22117163
I would follow the Smogon tour shit, and I remember him losing to some dude, and he started crying in the thread about it, probably because he thinks he's perfect and is not allowed to lose. However, he uploaded the "set", where that was the first game, the one he won, and then never uploaded the two other games. He's just a scumbag that wants to make sure his dickriders see him as the perfect Pokemon player.

>>22117198
If that was true, then on his last video, where he lost like most games, you'd see him cry about it every single time. And yet not once in those three or four games he lost, he called the other guys garbage, they were good games. If it was Aim, then you could expect all those losses to be cut out and replaced with easy ragequits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Dec 2014 18:42:56 No.22117901 Report

Quoted By:

>>22117850
blunder pls go and stay go

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 00:21:29 No.22121425 Report

Quoted By:

>>22116879
You wish, before Metagross the only mega i used was her

;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 05:28:55 No.22125207 Report

Quoted By: >>22125777

>>22111569
I've been running one on a rain team with a Thunderus with Rain Dace for prankster rain. Max Speed Swift Swim and Rain Boosted Waterfall is an unbelievable combo. Makes an unbeatable late game sweeper if you get prankster rain set up on a stealth cocks team. Just needs things like Skarm to cover its grass weakness. Try this:
Swampert @Swampertite
Adamant, 4HP / 252Attack / 252Speed
Waterfall
EQ
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Ice Punch
I've stolen matches from people late game and swept others that have poor coverage if I preserve Thunderus.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 06:03:36 No.22125631 Report

Quoted By: >>22128960

>>22110840

It would be a shame if I used some Foul Play on it….

IGN: Zero

IGN: Zero Thu 11 Dec 2014 06:18:44 No.22125777 Report

Quoted By:

>>22125207
That's not a bad team combo, I've seen a few Swampert+Sableye combos as an alt to the usual poli, but the thought hadn't crossed my mind to use Thundurus. May have to try that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 14:13:52 No.22128910 Report

Quoted By: >>22128944

>>22110840
Have you tried to Possibly use an Ageislash? The kings Shield and ghost Stab would help. but that's just a thought, Been wracking my brain to find a similar answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 14:18:38 No.22128944 Report

Quoted By:

>>22128910
>kings Shield
No Mega Metagross would use anything but EQ on an Aegislash though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 14:20:49 No.22128960 Report

Quoted By:

>>22125631
>only 145 base attack and it doesn't ever boost itself
It's only passable on its own attack because of tough claws, you don't get that with foul play

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