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>>22129305
It's way higher than that man. Sheer force life orb at +2 is phenomenal. Besides Nidoking's real claim to fame is his coverage.

Though I personally think CharY would be better.

Lana [0104-0499-3702]

Lana [0104-0499-3702] Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:29:52 No.22129939 Report

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>>22129305
>Nidoking
>shit
You are delusional.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:33:04 No.22129968 Report

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>>22129273
i dont get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:34:03 No.22129979 Report

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>>22129968
OP lost to a shitty strategy that's barely relevant now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:37:08 No.22130005 Report

Quoted By: >>22130022 >>22130071 >>22132460

>>22129305
Just checked it using calcs. Nidoking has effectively 139 special attack after sheer force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:40:12 No.22130022 Report

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>>22130005
>>22129305

My bad, I used abomasnow's sp atk. Nidoking has 130 sp atk after sheer force.

Regardless, having garchomp levels of special attack is pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:41:53 No.22130029 Report

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>>22129273
>not always predicting the spore from smeargle.
Seriously, 9/10 times, when you're in shit elo people will always lead with smeargle if they have it, so if you lead with a grass type or pokemon with overcoat you immediately fuck up their entire strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 16:46:53 No.22130071 Report

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>>22130005
>>22130022
He has the same exact special attack as a fully invested Gardevoir (349 with a neutral nature and 383 with a positive nature), I have no idea where you took those numbers from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 20:38:35 No.22132088 Report

Quoted By: >>22132110

>>22129305
I wish Nidoking was physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 20:40:03 No.22132098 Report

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>>22130029
>smeargle used dark void

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 20:41:03 No.22132110 Report

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>>22132088
It can do that though, especially with the +10 attack it got this gen, its just the special varient doesn't worry about burns and intimidaters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 20:51:36 No.22132198 Report

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>>22129305

Sure it's SP Atk isn't fantastic but it has decent defences and great coverage.

+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 253-298 (35.4 - 41.7%) -- 82.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Not bad for a Blissey with Max HP and Sp Def (Which hardly any are since most go Bold and don't max HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 20:56:59 No.22132242 Report

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>>22129273

>not leading with a fast taunter, fake out user, or grass type when you see they have smeargle

It's like you want to lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 21:18:33 No.22132460 Report

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>>22130005
>>22130022

Bosh of these are wrong. Sheer Force gives Nidoking the equivalent of a base 126 Special Attack. (i.e taking away sheer force and giving it base 126 Sp Atk causes its moves to do the same damage.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 21:24:41 No.22132523 Report

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>>22132198

>+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 169-200 (23.6 - 28%) -- 88.7% chance to 4HKO

It's shit

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Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 21:25:08 No.22132527 Report

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>>22129273
>he doesn't use a taunter lead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Dec 2014 21:36:22 No.22132645 Report

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>>22132523

Takes 4 turns to kill the biggest Sp Def Tank in the game.

Mega Alakazam isn't much better

+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Blissey: 204-242 (28.5 - 33.8%) -- 0.7% chance to 3HKO

He must have shit Sp Atk too.

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