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Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:35:26 No.22141402 View View Reply Original Report

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What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:39:15 No.22141429 Report

Quoted By: >>22141473

Nothing.
They did their best to fix a terrible shitmon, and it worked.
If you really want to complain about something, check out Banette or Steelix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:41:21 No.22141446 Report

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>>22141402
Stealth Rock
Roost
Brave Bird
Whirlwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:43:41 No.22141459 Report

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>>22141402
Well, it wasn't a good pokemon to begin with, so you shouldn't have been surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:43:54 No.22141461 Report

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>>22141402
Nothing.
The standard all megas should aspire to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:19 No.22141466 Report

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They decided that Megas must always get a 100BST buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:27 No.22141469 Report

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>>22141402
I can't run mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:32 No.22141470 Report

Quoted By: >>22141505 >>22141506 >>22141724

>>22141402
any physical priority one shots it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:48 No.22141473 Report

Quoted By: >>22141498 >>22141526 >>22141546 >>22141576

>>22141429
>They did their best to fix a terrible shitmon, and it worked.
B rank =/= Good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:52 No.22141474 Report

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>>22141402
Needs to waste a moveslot on Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:44:58 No.22141475 Report

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>>22141402
This is pretty much as good as they could make a shitmon without accidentally the entire meta (like with Mawile and Kangaskhan).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:45:01 No.22141477 Report

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>lol heatran is such a shitmon, he can be killed with earthquake xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:45:20 No.22141481 Report

Quoted By: >>22141490

>>22141402
I want smogon to leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:47:08 No.22141490 Report

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>>22141481
I want karenfags to leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:47:48 No.22141495 Report

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Absolutely nothing.

>Otherwise unusable Pokémon got the improvements it needed to make it usable
>Best design of all OR/AS Mega's, one of the best overall
Its the perfect example of what mega's should be. Mawile is another good example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:47:54 No.22141498 Report

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>>22141473
The point is that it is viable. Not everything can be Mega Mence tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:49:34 No.22141505 Report

Quoted By: >>22141517

>>22141470
>mach punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:49:35 No.22141506 Report

Quoted By: >>22141517

>>22141470
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 38-45 (14 - 16.6%) -- possible 7HKO

ebig one shot, m8 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:50:54 No.22141517 Report

Quoted By: >>22141524 >>22141530 >>22141533

>>22141505
>>22141506
Bulky Beedrill, new meta

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:52:09 No.22141524 Report

Quoted By: >>22141533

>>22141517
>bulky beedrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:52:25 No.22141526 Report

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>>22141473
Maybe not good
but good enough
which compared to where it came from pre mega is fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:53:12 No.22141530 Report

Quoted By: >>22141562

>>22141517
quad resist, not really bulk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:53:49 No.22141533 Report

Quoted By: >>22141543 >>22141544 >>22141562

>>22141517
>>22141524
>not running Harden/Roost Mega-Beedrill
It's like you guys want to get OHKO'd by Lati@s Psyshock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:54:53 No.22141543 Report

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>>22141533
>not running iron defense m-beedrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:54:53 No.22141544 Report

Quoted By: >>22141565

>>22141533
heh... keep up that smart arse attitude and see what... happens...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:55:09 No.22141546 Report

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>>22141473

B rank in OU is a colossal fucking upgrade from the depths of PU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:55:32 No.22141548 Report

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Beedrill fans have received the best possible fate.

The mega is good enough without basically just giving up your 6th party slot, and it looks good, and nobody's ever going to accuse us of being smogonfags for liking Beedrill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:57:25 No.22141562 Report

Quoted By: >>22141580

>>22141530
The Joke

>>22141533
gr8 str8egy, m8

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...

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Your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 14:58:26 No.22141565 Report

Quoted By: >>22141599

>>22141544
*unsheathes kakuna*
Just try me...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:00:44 No.22141576 Report

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>>22141473
>implying gyarados, dragonite, breloom, scizor, zapdos and many others are not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:01:02 No.22141580 Report

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>>22141562
thx, m8

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...

...

Your corpse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:04:06 No.22141594 Report

Quoted By: >>22141618

It doesn't have Huge/Pure Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:04:58 No.22141599 Report

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>>22141565
heh, big mistake...

*telegrams behind you*

Lana [0104-0499-3702]

Lana [0104-0499-3702] Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:08:18 No.22141616 Report

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They didn't pick Butterfree

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:08:36 No.22141618 Report

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>>22141594
It doesn't need it, Adaptability U-Turns is a great niche. Now if only it got Megahorn and Gunk Shot....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:08:42 No.22141621 Report

Quoted By: >>22141996

>>22141402
He's a bug type.

Unless you're attacking a Shiftry or a Cacturne, expect to lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:12:45 No.22141643 Report

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>>22141402
GF didn't go full retard and understood this mon is still a fucking early route bug.
Born as shitmon live as shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:18:32 No.22141678 Report

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Nothing, you should do the same thread with audino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 15:27:52 No.22141724 Report

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>>22141470
252+ Atk Mega Banette Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 174-205 (64.2 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Water Mega Banette Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 174-205 (64.2 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
etc for every priority

252+ Atk Normal Mega Banette Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 346-408 (127.6 - 150.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Only ES oneshots it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 16:06:55 No.22141996 Report

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>>22141621
>252+ Atk Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 265-313 (97.7 - 115.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

better invest in some bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 16:13:02 No.22142042 Report

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Having Gunk Shot and a less arbitrary BST increase limit would help. Otherwise they did the best they could do for fucking Beedrill of all things. It's in a far, far better position now than it was before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 16:15:30 No.22142063 Report

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>>22141402
Nothing, he's exactly what a Mega (especially one for an underperformer like good old Beedrill) should be. Strong, with a niche, but not an unstoppable monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 16:18:25 No.22142094 Report

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>>22141402
It jumped from PU to UU and is B rank in OU. That's pretty fucking great for something that's been a quintessential shitmon since day 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 17:45:50 No.22142807 Report

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You might as well nickname it garbodor because it's GARBAGE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 18:07:40 No.22143014 Report

Quoted By: >>22143031

So...Jolly or Adamant?

What am I missing out on not outspeeding by going Adamant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 18:09:48 No.22143031 Report

Quoted By: >>22143191

>>22143014

mega sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 18:12:07 No.22143049 Report

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>It's not S or A rank so I should not copypaste its set to put it on my team DX

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 18:28:37 No.22143191 Report

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>>22143031
So I should go Jolly then?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Dec 2014 18:32:16 No.22143234 Report

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You tell me OP, it couldn't exactly have gotten worse.
>early route shitmon
>one of the bottom of the barrel fully evolved mon
>gets mega which buffs its speed and attack to ridiculous levels
>gets adaptability thrown into the mix
>powerful and speedy u-turner which is great scouting
>went from PU to high UU and B rank OU
Only thing that went wrong is its best moves are still only 80BP

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