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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 17:54:27 No.22205889 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22206465

>finally get a moon stone in x
>evolve my nidorino hyped up for this ass wrecker here
>get Barney the purple downs syndrome dinosaur instead

Why gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 17:57:23 No.22205923 Report

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What the fuck how did you get Goodra from a male pokemon OP?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:02:58 No.22205978 Report

Quoted By: >>22206056 >>22206104 >>22206386 >>22208304

They really dropped the ball on a lot of the models

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:07:28 No.22206056 Report

Quoted By: >>22206104 >>22206108 >>22206122 >>22206468

>>22205978
Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:11:00 No.22206104 Report

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>>22205978
>>22206056
Both these look fine to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:11:40 No.22206108 Report

Quoted By: >>22206183

>>22206056
>typhlosion needs to look edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:12:38 No.22206122 Report

Quoted By: >>22206130 >>22206150 >>22206152 >>22211866

>>22206056
So, how come Pokemon like Cindaquil, and Cascoon/Silcoon have the flames/spikes removed from their in game models?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:13:35 No.22206130 Report

Quoted By: >>22211866

>>22206122
It's what they're like normally when not attacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:15:38 No.22206150 Report

Quoted By: >>22211866

>>22206122
They appear when attacking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:15:52 No.22206152 Report

Quoted By: >>22211866

>>22206122
Because the Cyndaquil line doesn't flame up unless it's attacking.
As for Cascoon and Silcoon the silk threads or "spikes" standing on their own never made sense and would look stupid in 3D

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:18:37 No.22206183 Report

Quoted By: >>22206236

>>22206108
Not necessarily.
The problem is that he's so static and lifeless, he looks like a duckpin.
I really miss the old sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:22:40 No.22206236 Report

Quoted By: >>22206306

>>22206183
You man the sprites that are literally static and lifeless?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:27:55 No.22206306 Report

Quoted By: >>22206363 >>22206407 >>22206412 >>22206433

>>22206236
>lifeless
A lot of sprites were very dynamic, interesting and full of character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:34:32 No.22206363 Report

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>>22206306
>A lot of sprites were very dynamic, interesting and full of character.
Not if you look at it carefully.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:37:21 No.22206386 Report

Quoted By: >>22206533

>>22205978
>not knowing that they used the Pokedex 3D models for XY
You'd be surprised how many of us remember how bad these models were before they updated them in Pokedex 3D. They kept on re-hashing newly textured Stadium 1 models. Most apparent in Pokemon Colosseum if you've ever used a Mewtwo in there. Dear god them edges... literally. You could cut cheese on that bitch's brow line.

No, but for realsies though. That Nidoking and Typhlosion are MILES better than they ever used to be. That's the most detail the poor fucks have ever had Model wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:37:49 No.22206394 Report

Quoted By: >>22206464 >>22206473 >>22211885

It seems every generation of Pokemon introduces one or two giant beastly bipedal monster pokemon with a lot of spikes on them to cater to the 8 year old boy demographic. The target audience is stoked seeing their promo art, and their stokedness is only justified by the pokemon's in-game stats and abilities, which are usually overpowered. Add a degree of difficulty to the attainment of these pokemon and you have yourself a schoolyard bragging goldmine.

So Nidoking's not that hard to get (though you do need a Moonstone), but I still lump him in this category. Look at him! How is he even related to the rest of the Nidos? You have the fairly peaceful, self-defensive savanna dwellers, and then you have this walking, bone-eating bulldozer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:38:53 No.22206407 Report

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>>22206306
This is either bad trolling or your delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:39:21 No.22206412 Report

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>>22206306
>shook the sprite around a bit

>hey look so much character!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:39:51 No.22206417 Report

Quoted By: >>22206445

sprites > models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:42:06 No.22206433 Report

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>>22206306
Cofagrigus has like five or six frames to it including the "it's just shaking" shaking ones.
Hell, all of the gen 5 sprites were like that how anyone could think thet're dynamic, interesting or full of character is beyond me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:43:24 No.22206445 Report

Quoted By: >>22206479

>>22206417
>sprites > models
Maybe if you're retarded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:45:23 No.22206464 Report

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>>22206394
Yeah because clearly you're a grown adult only if you like cuddly kittens and waifubait

Here's a protip for you: Pokemon games are made for 8 year old boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:45:25 No.22206465 Report

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>>22205889
That picture of Nidoking will always be my favorite early Pokemon artwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:46:13 No.22206468 Report

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>>22206056
I miss its fire fur coat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:46:31 No.22206473 Report

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>>22206394
He's probably based on Baragon, a fairly peaceful, self-defensive kaiju who always gets his ass stomped, just like Nidoking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:47:16 No.22206479 Report

Quoted By: >>22206532 >>22206607 >>22206617 >>22206693 >>22208047

>>22206445
Or if you have good taste.

3D has never been good, only kids who instantly jump on the shiniest new fad and have zero artistic knowledge think otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:51:51 No.22206532 Report

Quoted By: >>22206544

>>22206479
>Or if you have good taste.
No, not really.
The limitations of sprites don't exist with models, there's so much more you can do with them. However, people tend not to use them to their full potential artistically.

Anyway, just because you haven't played a game outside of pokemon that uses models doesn't mean they're objectively worse than sprites.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:51:54 No.22206533 Report

Quoted By: >>22206588

>>22206386
Actually I'd say the old one looks better, at least it looks fierce and not mentally handicapped

Polygon count is not everything, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:53:01 No.22206544 Report

Quoted By: >>22206567

>>22206532
We're talking in the context of Pokemon, nobody mentioned any other game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:54:44 No.22206567 Report

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>>22206544
In that case models still win out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:56:30 No.22206588 Report

Quoted By: >>22206603

>>22206533
I wouldn't say fierce.
It looks like it had it's teeth smashed in and his spikes are made of playdoh after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:57:38 No.22206603 Report

Quoted By: >>22207187 >>22207333

>>22206588
It looks a lot closer to the OP artwork than the newer one, regardless what your opinion of the style is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:58:04 No.22206607 Report

Quoted By: >>22206665

>>22206479
you can't argue with these people. they have no concept of what makes art lively or static. they simply see that something looks upgraded, and to them that counts as being the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:58:36 No.22206617 Report

Quoted By: >>22206631

>>22206479
Not that anon but that Charizard is disproportionate as fuck.
Just look at that snake neck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 18:59:38 No.22206631 Report

Quoted By: >>22206665

>>22206617
He always was

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:00:29 No.22206645 Report

Quoted By: >>22206654 >>22206678 >>22206815 >>22208553

The Unown objectively have the best models/animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:01:19 No.22206654 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206645
hot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:02:09 No.22206665 Report

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>>22206631
It was never THAT long and I'm pretty sure the feet are smaller too.

>>22206607
Art is an extremely subjective topic just because your definition doesn't adhere to someone elses doesn't mean they're wrong and you're right. It just means you have different opinions on art.

That being said that other anon is just as bad as you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:03:06 No.22206678 Report

Quoted By: >>22206720

>>22206645
where can i get more of these? they're adorabe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:04:07 No.22206693 Report

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>>22206479
>3D has never been good, only kids who instantly jump on the shiniest new fad and have zero artistic knowledge think otherwise

I wanted to make a serious reply but then I saw your picture.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:04:40 No.22206699 Report

Quoted By: >>22206706 >>22206707 >>22206722 >>22208164 >>22208304

Some mons weren't designed for 3d models....

Look at this retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:05:29 No.22206706 Report

Quoted By: >>22206735

>>22206699
Jesus, why are the legs so big

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:05:35 No.22206707 Report

Quoted By: >>22208490

>>22206699
>implying it's animation isn't GOAT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:06:20 No.22206720 Report

Quoted By: >>22206767

>>22206678
http://www.pkparaiso.com/xy/sprites_pokemon.php

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:06:28 No.22206722 Report

Quoted By: >>22208490

>>22206699
>Implying this isn't the #1 3d model by far.
Shit taste detected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:07:27 No.22206735 Report

Quoted By: >>22206781

>>22206706

because of the animal it's based on you fuck.

its legs were just as big in BW, they were just folded in. look at the art.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:10:11 No.22206767 Report

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>>22206720
Thanks. I think this one is my favorite.
And you're right, the unown sprites have so much personality, it makes me want one on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:11:18 No.22206781 Report

Quoted By: >>22206817 >>22206825 >>22206843

>>22206735
The animal it's based on has skinny legs.
The legs are always supposed to be folded in when it flies.
This model is fucking ugly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:14:33 No.22206815 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206645
I was running around a mirage spot catching all the variations of Unown and I really have to say the Unowns surprised me in how good their idle animations are. It's a shame they don't even have a fainting animation and their attack animation is lame.

My top 3 are probably Unown Y, Unown I, and Unown Q. Unown N and S are good too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:14:35 No.22206817 Report

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>>22206781
>The animal it's based on has skinny legs.
>what are feathers

>The legs are always supposed to be folded in when it flies.
It's a prehistoric creature literally just starting to fly, it doesn't make sense for it to be tucked in.

>This model is fucking ugly.
Because you have shitty taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:15:30 No.22206825 Report

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>>22206781

archeopteryx had large legs for a bird, and they were robust enough for it to run. and birds attack primarily with their legs so they should look powerful.

i bet you're the same faggot who complains that talonflame has legs at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:16:56 No.22206843 Report

Quoted By: >>22206900

>>22206781
>The animal it's based on has skinny legs.
Out of curiousity what do you think it's based on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:21:59 No.22206900 Report

Quoted By: >>22206940 >>22207241

>>22206843
Velociraptor or any feathered dinosaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:24:55 No.22206940 Report

Quoted By: >>22206980

>>22206900
How the hell did you even come to Velociraptor?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:28:37 No.22206980 Report

Quoted By: >>22207241

>>22206940

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:45:23 No.22207187 Report

Quoted By: >>22212013

>>22206603

It doesn't, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:50:40 No.22207241 Report

Quoted By: >>22207359

>>22206900
>>22206980
It's a fucking Archeopteryx, you featherdinofag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 19:59:31 No.22207333 Report

Quoted By: >>22212013

>>22206603
Nothing looks remotely close to the original artwork that goes for sprites and models though.

On that note, who even uses the original artwork as a comparison anyway? They were made during the Toriyama-lite age when they didn't have their own style and they've long since lost relevence when it comes to pokemon designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 20:01:08 No.22207359 Report

Quoted By:

>>22207241
Yeah, pretty close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 20:59:11 No.22208047 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206479
Oh, so the only acceptable form of art is 2 dimensional art. Brb, gonna go tell my friend and his professor to stop practicing ceramics and sculpture

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:09:58 No.22208164 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206699

His animation reminds me of Garbage Day guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:24:08 No.22208304 Report

Quoted By: >>22208329

>>22206699
they could have just made him stand on his legs and pose like an actual raptor or something and make him look intimidating

>>22205978
he'd look a lot cooler if he were hunched over, nearly quadrupedal, with his front legs just barely off the ground

like, it'd be stupid for a creature that spikey to not show off his spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:26:08 No.22208329 Report

Quoted By: >>22208463 >>22208490

>>22208304

he's not a fucking velociraptor, he's a bird. he struggles with flying because he's one of the first birds. it's cool. shut up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:30:07 No.22208380 Report

Quoted By: >>22208463

>14 days from the year of our lord, two thousand and fifteen
>there are STILL people who don't like Archeops' 3D Model

It's the best model in the game. You can just imagine it saying "LOOK GUYS I'M DOING IT", since it was the first thing to ever fucking fly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:36:07 No.22208463 Report

Quoted By:

>>22208329
>>22208380
in that case they could have made it more cartoonish and like archeops was really struggling to stay in the air

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:37:59 No.22208490 Report

Quoted By: >>22208580

>>22206707
They're talking about the model, not the animation.
>>22206722
Ha
>>22208329
Archeopteryx and birds are maniraptorans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:43:40 No.22208553 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206645
>Smogon will never let you pick aesthetic forms

Why not though, you let people set their Pokémon as shiny but we aren't allowed to choose a different season of Sawsbuck or choose a letter of Unown?

>inb4 using Unown

I don't but I'd still like the option to pick.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Dec 2014 21:46:03 No.22208580 Report

Quoted By:

>>22208490
>this picture
>do you even lift

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Dec 2014 01:54:58 No.22211866 Report

Quoted By:

>>22206152
>>22206122
>>22206130
>>22206150
The decision to make the cyndaquil line like that - having the flames only appear when attacking - was a really stupid one, in my opinion. They could be like anime ponyta where the flames won't hurt you. The cyndaquil line just looks awful without their flames

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Dec 2014 01:56:50 No.22211885 Report

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>>22206394
He looks a lot like nidorino and male nidoran

And he looks cool as fuck and I'm far from being an 8-year-old boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Dec 2014 02:08:27 No.22212013 Report

Quoted By:

>>22207187
But it does, how could you argue otherwise you stubborn titball?

>>22207333
Because the original artwork for the original 151 is what made us love them and they shouldn't let go of that raw monsterishness when it comes to those specific pokemon

And you say Toriyama-lite like it's a bad thing

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