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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:45:01 No.22231379 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22231472 >>22232041

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 359-426 (101.9 - 121%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 315-372 (94.3 - 111.3%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Empoleon: 274-324 (73.6 - 87%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 382-452 (128.6 - 152.1%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria: 183-217 (51.6 - 61.2%)

+6 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 390-460 (60.7 - 71.6%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latios: 309-364 (102.3 - 120.5%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Metagross: 221-260 (73.4 - 86.3%)

252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 88-105 (29.2 - 34.8%)

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Mega Scizor: 468-556 (136.4 - 162%)

Walled by Heatran, of course, but I think that's a fair trade-off for beating almost every other Steel-type in OU.

Serp has base 113 Speed and 75 / 95 / 95 bulk, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:47:28 No.22231387 Report

Quoted By: >>22231412 >>22231440 >>22231730

good but i don't care about Serperior, when they're gonna fix Meganium and Torterra?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:50:22 No.22231405 Report

Quoted By: >>22231428 >>22231443

It's not going to be OU material. Simple as that. Mono-Grass is suffering and it takes at least a turn or two to set up "properly" (see: no impressive boosting moves). Plus, it's stats are sub-par in comparison to many other Grass-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:51:45 No.22231412 Report

Quoted By: >>22231440 >>22231519

>>22231387
im with this guy
give torterra harvest at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:53:01 No.22231418 Report

Quoted By: >>22231432 >>22231433 >>22231580 >>22231784

What moves could they conceivably give Serperior to improve it's movepool and coverage or to make it abuse Contrary more? No Draco.

Earth Power doesn't seem like it would be too much of a stretch. Or Sludge Wave?

Anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:55:01 No.22231428 Report

Quoted By: >>22231460

>>22231405
switch into anything ohko by leaf storm, use leaf storm, if opponent switches now you just set up, if he statys in he dies and you set up
is it so hard idiot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:55:47 No.22231432 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231418
Dragon Ascent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:56:01 No.22231433 Report

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>>22231418
it learns earthquake for a fourth move slot
can also set up screens instead of sweeping

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:57:39 No.22231440 Report

Quoted By: >>22231453

>>22231387
>>22231412

And give Meganium Thick Fat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:58:09 No.22231443 Report

Quoted By: >>22231448 >>22231466

>>22231405

Why not? It's almost unwallable in OU, and has to be revenge killed to get rid of it safely. Nothing can switch in because it'll just Leaf Storm > coverage for a KO.

I mean, you'd have to bring it in safely and force a switch, but it's still a dangerous threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:58:53 No.22231448 Report

Quoted By: >>22231466

>>22231443
Can't Smogon Bird just come in and use its move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:59:40 No.22231453 Report

Quoted By: >>22231458

>>22231440
>worse M-Venusaur

no give her something else

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 11:59:59 No.22231458 Report

Quoted By: >>22231476

>>22231453

Going to offer any ideas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:00:36 No.22231460 Report

Quoted By: >>22231466 >>22231467 >>22231469

>>22231428
>use leaf storm on opponent who switched in
>now at -2
>wanting to set up against the counter who was switched in
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:02:03 No.22231466 Report

Quoted By: >>22231780

>>22231443
>>22231448
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 129-152 (43.4 - 51.1%) -- 7.4% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 492-578 (168.4 - 197.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>22231460
>now at -2

Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:02:31 No.22231467 Report

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>>22231460
>contrary

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:02:58 No.22231469 Report

Quoted By: >>22231534

>>22231460
Trolling or do you genuinely not know what Serperior's hidden ability is?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:04:10 No.22231472 Report

Quoted By: >>22231486

>>22231379

>+2
>+2
>+2
>+6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:04:55 No.22231476 Report

Quoted By: >>22231481 >>22232556

>>22231458
Mega Meganium Grass/Fairy with Serene Grace, and it now learns various fairy moves like Play Rough

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:05:39 No.22231481 Report

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>>22231476

>Play Rough

I'm okay with this, even if I'm not a huge fan of fairies.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:06:55 No.22231486 Report

Quoted By: >>22231499

>>22231472

The point is that it 2HKOs Chansey with a special move. Don't get smart with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:09:38 No.22231499 Report

Quoted By: >>22231524 >>22231527

>>22231486

After a fucking +6 boost. Name anything that can't do that after a +6 boost.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:13:22 No.22231519 Report

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>>22231412
I feel that they will give it filter as its mega ability. They did the same thing to help Rhyperior and Aggron with their crippling weaknesses.

Though, in Torterra's case, it would actually be helpful, considering this guy has decent ways to recover health.

Fucking GF just give Slack Off to Aggron already

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:15:46 No.22231524 Report

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>>22231499
Not that guy but name another pokemon with as decent stat spread as Serperior that can sue a 130 BP move and get a +2 boost at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:17:03 No.22231527 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231499
It is a free boost while you kill things. Name something that gets to +6 for free while still doing large amounts of damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:18:31 No.22231534 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231469
he is trolling and you fell for it by replying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:18:31 No.22231535 Report

Quoted By: >>22231778

I figured it out
0- Atk Life Orb Serperior Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 187-224 (48.5 - 58.1%) -- 49.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:20:40 No.22231545 Report

Quoted By: >>22231557

You literally need a smogonbird or a Greninja to deal with this shit. Otherwise, rip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:22:17 No.22231557 Report

Quoted By: >>22231575 >>22231586 >>22231587 >>22231593 >>22231595 >>22231606

>>22231545
>Gunk Shot Greninja
>Talonflame
>Heatran
>Skarmory
>Specs Weedle
>Ferrothorn
>Salamence
>Magnezone
>Scizor
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:23:34 No.22231575 Report

Quoted By: >>22231585

>>22231557
>Scizor
>Ferrothorn
meet HP Fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:24:33 No.22231580 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231418
Superpower

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:25:20 No.22231585 Report

Quoted By: >>22231596 >>22231605

>>22231575
>implying every Serperior would waste a slot just for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:25:33 No.22231586 Report

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>>22231557
Skarmory, Ferrothorn, Scizor and Magnezone get destroyed by HP fire. Heatran is not going to enjoy an earthquake either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:25:38 No.22231587 Report

Quoted By: >>22231608

>>22231557
>Gunk Shot Greninja
Yes.
>Talonflame
Yes.
>Heatran
Yes unless it's running eq for some reason.
>Skarmory
No.
>Specs Weedle
Pls.
>Ferrothorn
No.
>Salamence
No.
>Magnezone
No.
>Scizor
No.

All of the "no" are mons who can't switch into leaf storm and take a +2 dragon pulse/hp fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:26:26 No.22231593 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231557
>Salamence
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Salamence: 400-473 (120.8 - 142.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Good bye

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:26:31 No.22231594 Report

Quoted By: >>22231612

It's still shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:26:41 No.22231595 Report

Quoted By: >>22231935

>>22231557
in order:
scarf leaf storm
earthquake
+2 hpfire
+2 hpfire
dragon pulse
earthquake
+2 hpfire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:26:42 No.22231596 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231585
Have you looked at Serperior's moveset? You act like it has more than 2 moves it would use anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:27:45 No.22231605 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231585
>Waste a slot

Serperior literally has 3 moves - Leaf Sotrm, Dragon Pulse and HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:27:48 No.22231606 Report

Quoted By: >>22231614

>>22231557
>Greninja
252+ SpA Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 428-506 (149.6 - 176.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:27:49 No.22231608 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231587
Also, Greninja is just a check. Not a counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:29:00 No.22231612 Report

Quoted By: >>22231621

>>22231594
Spoken like a true shitter who claimed that Mega Sableye, Mega Slowbro and Mega Gallade would be shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:30:05 No.22231614 Report

Quoted By: >>22231618

>>22231606
>Gunk Shot.

Doesn't matter anyway. He just copypasted that list from >>22231528

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:30:53 No.22231618 Report

Quoted By: >>22231631

>>22231614
Greninja can't be poison type when switching in, genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:31:33 No.22231621 Report

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>>22231612
Yes except we've known the exact stats of HA Serperior for years, it's been usable on simulators for years, and it's been proven to be pretty underwhelming for years,

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:33:31 No.22231630 Report

Quoted By: >>22231654 >>22231859

I can't wait to BTFO some smug shit Rotom-W with my Serperior.

ahah better run HP Ice on that shit friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:33:54 No.22231631 Report

Quoted By: >>22231637 >>22231638 >>22231845

>>22231618
Nobody said anything about safe switches. Greninja can deal as a revenge killer, repellant, or sweeper, and Serperior can't stop any of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:35:00 No.22231637 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231631
>Greninja is broken and has no counters
Everyone already knows that, m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:35:09 No.22231638 Report

Quoted By: >>22231666

>>22231631
So basically, Greninja is unable to counter Serperior.

Don't go around screaming about how Greninja is a counter when he's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:38:38 No.22231654 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231630
>+2 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Rotom-W: 577-681 (189.8 - 224%) -- guaranteed OHKO
ayyyyyyyyy

m-muh bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:41:31 No.22231666 Report

Quoted By: >>22231685

>>22231638
It's really frustrating when you ascribe subtext to something that was written only so that you can seem to be right. It was a list of stuff Serperior doesn't automatically beat. Checks and counters. You're the one who decided to read it as all counters. Try to think more clearly next time. It saves everyone a lot of headache.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:45:11 No.22231685 Report

Quoted By: >>22231693

>>22231666
>It was a list of stuff Serperior doesn't automatically beat
Except that Serperior beats Greninja. You're only saying that Greninja wins when it relies on Serperior not spamming Leaf Storm. It's not a good check either if Greninja has to rely on a teammate being sacrificed just to not get killed by Serperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:47:08 No.22231693 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231685
>It's not a good check either if Greninja has to rely on a teammate being sacrificed just to not get killed by Serperior.

Not him, but you clearly dont know what a check is. Learn what you're talking about before making arguments, it really makes you look like an ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:52:11 No.22231730 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231387
Harvest, Speed Boost, Multiscale, or Adaptibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 12:53:43 No.22231742 Report

Quoted By:

Why are we still debating the Narutoad as a good check to Serperior when it's well known it can check just about ANYTHING in this metagame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:01:22 No.22231773 Report

Quoted By: >>22231778 >>22231781 >>22231783

So does this guy's EQ do shit to heatran or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:02:07 No.22231778 Report

Quoted By: >>22231783

>>22231773

>>22231535

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:02:49 No.22231780 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231466
I should remind you that you won't be hitting the chicken with a +2 Leaf Storm, as all you need to do is switch it in when it's at 0, to already immediately threaten Serperior with the Brave Bird menace.

I guess you could run Hidden Power Rock to smack it on the switch, but then no Fire coverage, which I guess can be fixed by using Magnezone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:03:13 No.22231781 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231773
Does it even learn EQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:03:33 No.22231783 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231773
>>22231778
I thought Serperior didn't learn EQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:03:39 No.22231784 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231418
overheat :^)

literally better than draco anyway. Who the fuck thinks draco would even be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:11:44 No.22231814 Report

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It'd rather run HP fighting to avoid getting walled by Heatran (and hey, you're losing to Talonflame no matter what you do anyway)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:13:54 No.22231825 Report

Quoted By: >>22231846 >>22231848 >>22231866 >>22231868

What the fuck are you supposed to run in the last slot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:16:54 No.22231845 Report

Quoted By: >>22231850

>>22231631
>Greninja
>sweeper

Fuck this makes me angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:17:01 No.22231846 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231825
Substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:17:19 No.22231848 Report

Quoted By: >>22231854 >>22231994

>>22231825
You run a Greninja instead of Shitperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:18:01 No.22231850 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231845
Late-game sweeper, obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:19:01 No.22231854 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231848
Well what do I run besides Water Shuriken and Mat Block?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:19:16 No.22231855 Report

Quoted By:

How long till the board gets filled with "pls give ha snake" threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:21:14 No.22231859 Report

Quoted By: >>22231867

>>22231630
Hp water master ruse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:22:45 No.22231866 Report

Quoted By: >>22231869

>>22231825
Aqua Tail, Knock Off? No other useful special attack is left

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:22:57 No.22231867 Report

Quoted By: >>22231871

>>22231859
Why don't more things run HP water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:23:10 No.22231868 Report

Quoted By: >>22231879

>>22231825
Giga Drain for recovery. It has the bulk to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:23:57 No.22231869 Report

Quoted By: >>22231877

>>22231866
Giga Drain maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:24:01 No.22231871 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231867
Because hitting Rhyperior, Camerupt, and Magcargo isn't very important isn't very important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:26:12 No.22231877 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231869
Oh right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:26:20 No.22231879 Report

Quoted By: >>22231912 >>22232191

>>22231868
Is Assault Vest Serperior viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:31:59 No.22231912 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231879
No. Stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:38:03 No.22231935 Report

Quoted By: >>22231998

>>22231595
> earthquake
??????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:42:28 No.22231957 Report

Quoted By: >>22231970

Abother example of why /vp/ is the last place someone would visit it for competitive tips. A place where every bro and shitmon are forced into OU where clearly they don't belong to.
> earthquake serperior
> not just using boltbeam focus blast and leaf storm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:44:19 No.22231969 Report

Quoted By:

>+6 252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 146-172 (41.4 - 48.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

By that point you're out of PP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:44:27 No.22231970 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231957
>Focus Blast
You almost had me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:45:37 No.22231974 Report

Quoted By: >>22231992 >>22232136

leaf storm is max 8 uses, how will this effect serperior?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:48:23 No.22231992 Report

Quoted By: >>22232152 >>22232171

>>22231974
Serperior can sweep with coverage moves at +6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:48:52 No.22231994 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231848
No one is talking about Rhyperior here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:49:06 No.22231998 Report

Quoted By: >>22232007

>>22231935

Heatran you fool

even Charizard Y runs it from time to time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:51:21 No.22232007 Report

Quoted By: >>22232012 >>22232021

>>22231998
It doesn't learn EQ retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:52:19 No.22232012 Report

Quoted By: >>22232020 >>22232039

>>22232007
Yes it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:53:40 No.22232020 Report

Quoted By: >>22232111

>>22232012
Go check again, it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:53:44 No.22232021 Report

Quoted By: >>22232028

>>22232007

It can through Natural Gift

it's still a shitmon that no one will end up using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:54:42 No.22232028 Report

Quoted By: >>22232033

>>22232021
Natural Gift is Tri Attack in a vs battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:55:52 No.22232033 Report

Quoted By: >>22232042

>>22232028

no that's nature power

natural gift depends on the berry you're holding, not the environment. The strongest attacks got buffed by 20 BP in gen VI, so the ground-type attack is pretty much EQ in singles.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:57:37 No.22232039 Report

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>>22232012

Anonymouse

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Anonymouse Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:57:51 No.22232041 Report

Quoted By:

>>22231379
one shots ferrothorn, skarmory
2 shots empoleon

btw why does blissey have 252SPDEF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 13:58:11 No.22232042 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232033
>having to waste a moveslot and an Item slot for a single attack that isn't even close to a OHKO

0 Atk Serperior Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 220-260 (57.1 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:10:33 No.22232111 Report

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>>22232020
I thought you meant Charizard. Whoops.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:14:51 No.22232136 Report

Quoted By: >>22232152 >>22232171

>>22231974
serperior can sweep with hp grass at +6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:16:23 No.22232152 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232136
>>22231992
You've got to be kidding me. She's been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look drastically different from their first appearance to their last appearance. It's just common sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:18:59 No.22232171 Report

Quoted By: >>22232201

>>22231992
>>22232136
>blank used roar!

xDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:22:46 No.22232191 Report

Quoted By: >>22232207

>>22231879

252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Serperior: 229-273 (78.6 - 93.8%)

Holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:24:05 No.22232201 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232171
Unless it's someone with Priority Roar, it's getting hit by Serperior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:25:18 No.22232207 Report

Quoted By: >>22232298

>>22232191
Try Dank Shot, you chicken nugget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:31:04 No.22232246 Report

Quoted By: >>22232256

>It's viable, guys! You just need to not face one of the most commonly used OU Pokémon and it'll do fine!
- Some faggot on /vp/, 2014

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:32:48 No.22232256 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232246
Lol mega blaziken is le shit! Kek! Kek!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:38:13 No.22232298 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232207

40 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 351-416 (120.6 - 142.9%)

It could miss, though.

Still, this means that stuff like Mega Manectric, Scarf Magnezone, ect. can't easily revenge kill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:50:57 No.22232381 Report

Quoted By: >>22232398

Looks like Whirlwind's gonna see some more use in NU!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 14:53:35 No.22232398 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232381
>contrary Serperior
>NU
heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 15:22:43 No.22232556 Report

Quoted By: >>22232591

>>22231476
That's terrible. It gains more weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2014 15:29:28 No.22232591 Report

Quoted By:

>>22232556
you mean gains more resistances

>neutral to bug
>resistent to fighting
>resistent to dark

i don't think you understand how good the fairy type is

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