>>22255369How is being good because of an ability make anything I said wrong, or even an argument against Greninja being banned? You could say "Keldeo is only good because of Secret Sword" or "Reshiram is only good because of its stats" and it doesn't change the fact that its good.
>>22255383>Don't leave in a Pokemon you know will get OHKOSo you're going to switch out and sac a member of your team to bring out your scarfer, to which Gren switches out and then can come back in and get another KO?
>Rotom-W244 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 212+ Def Rotom-W: 144-172 (47.3 - 56.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
212 SpA Life Orb Greninja Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 133-157 (43.7 - 51.6%) -- 66.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
>Latias/LatiosLatias is not a check to Gren at all, because Scarf is non existant, non scarf Latios just gets OHKO
>JolteonIf you have to use this piece of shit to check something there's a problem
>CrobatSee Jolteon
>And that's not even counting the myriad of Megas that are faster than it.6 is now a myriad, two of which are bad, and another being borderline bad? And if you use one, then you can't use another mega.
>Wall it with Chansey or realy any special wall244 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 270-320 (38.3 - 45.4%) -- 12.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Good wall!
>Doesn't hit hard either> 
