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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:10:46 No.22283397 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22283418 >>22283434 >>22283460 >>22283759 >>22283865 >>22283975

Are you encouraged to always mega evolve during the first turn?

Is there any benefit to not instantly mega evolving and instead waiting a few turns? What if there was?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:11:45 No.22283405 Report

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There is. Prankster sableye will-o, and a ton of others

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:12:20 No.22283416 Report

Quoted By: >>22283475 >>22283777

I always wait until I absolutely need to mega evolve before doing so. Feels more like a Limit Break to me then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:12:30 No.22283418 Report

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>>22283397
Gyarados can keep it's Water/Flying typing where it can wall Fighting types without Rock or Electric coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:13:01 No.22283425 Report

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Gyarados shenanigans always wreck my shit on VGC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:13:45 No.22283434 Report

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>>22283397
>if you wait until your health is in the red and then mega evolve all of your stats will be doubled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:15:42 No.22283456 Report

Quoted By: >>22283475 >>22283777

It's a weird sort of pleasure not needing to mega evolve, even though you could.
"This isn't even my final form"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:15:53 No.22283460 Report

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>>22283397
It completely depends on the mon and what it's facing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:16:37 No.22283469 Report

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Keeping Mawile's Intimidate might have its use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:16:58 No.22283475 Report

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>>22283456
>>22283416
These are why I wish there were more reasons to hold back
Megas would be great as a "Oh, I guess I need to break this out"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:17:09 No.22283478 Report

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chomp loses speed

so do others

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:17:39 No.22283481 Report

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Sableye, Gyarados and Mega Milf can be really useful when you're not immediately mega evolving.

However, mostly it's just mindgames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:18:37 No.22283498 Report

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Audino if you want to keep regenerator for switching until you have an opportunity to mega.

Alakazam if you want to try and trace a particular ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:18:42 No.22283499 Report

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Mostly original ability and type shenanigans. Speed if you're running Mega Chomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:19:30 No.22283507 Report

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Getting a Moxie boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:23:35 No.22283559 Report

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>go on Battle Spot free mode
>Lead with Gengar
>Opponent sends out Groudon
>goes Primal
>Precipice Blades!
>it doesnt affect Gengar...
Do people really always expect it to mega?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:25:02 No.22283584 Report

Quoted By: >>22283629 >>22283839

It depends on how drastic the changes are for the Mega. For example;
>Scrappy Kangaskhan can smack its would-be Ghost-type counters around, while Mega Kangaskhan is left vulnerable
>Sableye can use Prankster to fuck with Defensive Pokemon before switching to its Mega and getting more bulk
>Gyarados's type change gives opponents headaches with the change in weaknesses and resistances
>If Charizard holds out on Mega-Evolving into Y until the opponent's switched in their Tyranitar, then it can Mega-Evolve and change the weather to Drought (this applies to Mega Tyranitar and Abomasnow too, but not as much)
>Slowbro and Audino's Regenerator can give them some extra staying power if counters are still on the opponent's team
>Sharpedo can boost with Speed Boost and Swords Dance before Mega-Evolving and going ham with Strong Jaw
>Manectric's Lightningrod means it can wall Mono-Attacking Electric-types

That's all I can think of at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:27:31 No.22283629 Report

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>>22283584
don't forget Moxie Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:31:39 No.22283695 Report

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If my Gardevoir traces an useful ability I'd wait until I mega evolve _it.
Likewise I'd make sure to scout for Knockers before switching Gallade in so it can take and get a free boost before mega evolving.
Also you can also play mind games with your opponent by using at least two mons that can mega evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:35:23 No.22283759 Report

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>>22283397
A few Megas have weaknesses they pick up that might wanna be avoided. I don't use all of them but some I've noticed are Sceptile and Ampharos who don't always enjoy picking up the Dragon type. Waiting a few turns to Mega can be good for mind games.
Some abilities are also desirable to keep around. Sharpedo for example could use a Speed Boost and can Protect or expect the opponent to read the Protect and just nail them with something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:37:02 No.22283777 Report

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>>22283416
>>22283456
>>22283475
I enjoy running Megachomp cause of this. Hold the mega for better speed, hit that physical wall with a Fire Blast or Draco Meteor with the mega's heightened sp. Attack. Also heightened sp def lets you survive Mega manetric's hp ice and ko back, which has saved me more than once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:40:31 No.22283839 Report

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>>22283584
Sharpedo doesnt get Swords Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:42:45 No.22283865 Report

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>>22283397

>Gyarados
>Garchomp
>Metagross
>Sableye
>Alakazam
>Pinsir/Heracross (moxie)
>Slowbro

everything else you should mega evolve as soon as it's sent out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:42:49 No.22283866 Report

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double battles sometimes i power swap my gardevoir with my slaking and then mega evolve my gardevoir to get rid of the ability

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Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:44:35 No.22283892 Report

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>>22283839
Focus Energy, though :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:45:39 No.22283905 Report

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Not sure how useful this is in practice, but Altaria with Natural Cure can be used to absorb status moves like Will-O or T-wave.

I wish all Mega's had some form of double utility like this. It would make their inclusion more interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Dec 2014 21:50:59 No.22283975 Report

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>>22283397
>sableye keeps prankster
>manectric keeps lightningrod
>some pokemon want to keep initial typing
>mawile never megas when it protects so it can keep intimidate in case of a switch out
>shitty gimmicks like moxiemence and pinsir like to greed
>mega khan keeps inner focus/scrappy
>gengar keeps levitate
>zard can protect a turn to wait to set up weather
>slowbro keeps regenerator

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