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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:26:40 No.22338312 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22338359 >>22338360 >>22338647

Is this the worst mega? At least mega banette can use priority destiny bond, at least after mega evolving, and mega audino is somewhat useful in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:37:26 No.22338345 Report

Quoted By: >>22338363

I think its alright.

No Guard Hurricanes hurt man.

I think camerupt is the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:42:45 No.22338355 Report

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Fun fact: Mega-Pidgeot's only special move that deals neutral damage against Rock-types is Twister.

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:44:23 No.22338359 Report

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>>22338312
252+ SpA Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Parasect: 676-796 (208.6 - 245.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Breloom: 796-940 (245.6 - 290.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 270-318 (94.4 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gengar: 258-304 (98.4 - 116%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Pidgeot Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 332-392 (93.7 - 110.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Pidgeot Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 78-93 (31.9 - 38.1%) -- 93.1% chance to 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:45:33 No.22338360 Report

Quoted By: >>22338380

>>22338312
>At least mega banette can use priority destiny bond
>Priority
>mega-banette

Fuck you, FUCK YOU SIR, go die in a fire.
That stupid mega banette ability DOESN'T activate on the first turn, gamefreak is a bunch of retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:45:37 No.22338363 Report

Quoted By: >>22338822

>>22338345
Eruption and all those moves hurt a lot too, plus with that bulk you know he's at least going to get a knock out (as long as you get rid of the pesky water types).
I think M-Banette is worst. It's literally worse than M-Glalie, all it can do is spread WoW and Destiny Bond your own Mega, at least M-Glalie has Super Fang, Ice Shard, fucking STAB Refrigerate Double-Edge. M-Banette is a huge waste of a mega slot. Currently C+ rank in RU, that shit should just drop to NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:45:42 No.22338365 Report

Quoted By: >>22338388

>there are people who don't understand that worst mega is steelix overall /audino in singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:47:19 No.22338380 Report

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>>22338360
>at least after mega evolving

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:50:10 No.22338388 Report

Quoted By: >>22338397

>>22338365
audino is as bad as banette imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:53:21 No.22338397 Report

Quoted By: >>22338444

>>22338388
in singles, I say banette is better. It can stallbreak with taunt, will-o and then it can priority dbond to stop revenge killing. Its bulk is middling, but being a ghost type gives it nice immunities to come in on.
Audino's only recovery is wish protect, which gives the opponent ample opportunity to set up and makes audino more vulnerable to taunting because it can't recover instantaneously. It should have kept regenerator imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 13:59:29 No.22338411 Report

Quoted By: >>22338636

I actually really like this mega though I've always disliked pidgeot. Competitively yes, a normal/flying that guarantees enemy stone edges will hit it isn't so great.

Could be fun in the sun though, hurricane being 100% accurate where normally it would be 50% along with boosted heatwave would be alright.

Not amazing but I like that they took it the special route and definitely not the worst. Mega manectrics special pool is also garbage and he gets fucking minus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 14:11:39 No.22338444 Report

Quoted By: >>22338527

>>22338397
>Audino's only recovery is wish protect
draining kiss too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 14:28:42 No.22338527 Report

Quoted By: >>22338585

>>22338444
Doesn't audino get soft boiled too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 14:43:39 No.22338585 Report

Quoted By: >>22338898

>>22338527
No it doesn't. Its a shame though too. Maybe if they finished the Frontier it would've gotten it as a tutor from the Battle Dome. Fucking Nintendo putting Gamefreak into one-year deadlines...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 14:53:18 No.22338636 Report

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>>22338411
What really shits on it is that there's no other move than benefits from No Guard
Bar Hurricane it's a pure disadvantage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 14:56:09 No.22338647 Report

Quoted By: >>22338723 >>22338813

>>22338312
Needs Dark Void, Thunder, Blizzard and Fire Blast to be somewhat decent.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:10:11 No.22338723 Report

Quoted By: >>22338813

>>22338647
>mfw mega pigdeot finally gets special treatment and gf gives him mega boltbeam (no miss thunder and blizzard)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:22:11 No.22338790 Report

Quoted By: >>22339424 >>22339437 >>22339957

Mega Pidgeot now has access to Boomburst, Sing, Supersonic, and Focus Miss.

Is this awesome y/n?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:25:14 No.22338813 Report

Quoted By: >>22339406

>>22338647
>>22338723

>mfw a regular Galvantula is faster and OHKO's it with Compound Eyes Thunder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:25:56 No.22338819 Report

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It's Hurricane spam is alright, there's just so much wasted potential

Once it finally gets the good moves like Focus Blast, Blizzard, Thunder, Fire Blast, etc. over the next few gens it'll improve a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:27:02 No.22338822 Report

Quoted By: >>22338835 >>22339793

>>22338363
>Eruption and all those moves hurt a lot too

Thing is Camerupt will never, ever, ever go first ans get the full advantage of a 100% HP Eruption. He's going to take a hit every time. I would bet that it rarely comes off with more than 100 power in practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:28:44 No.22338835 Report

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>>22338822
Is rock polish camerupt a thing? I feel like it should be a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:29:11 No.22338836 Report

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>People think M-Audino is good in doubles
It's trash there too, just so much worse than cresselia

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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:37:53 No.22338884 Report

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>worst mega
Ignoring that Mega Glalie exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:41:17 No.22338898 Report

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>>22338585
What kind of dumb logic is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:59:18 No.22338992 Report

Quoted By: >>22339005 >>22339018 >>22339380 >>22339412

Is Hyper Beam usable of Mega Pidgeot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 16:02:01 No.22339005 Report

Quoted By: >>22339012 >>22339018

>>22338992
>Hyper Beam
>usable
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 16:04:04 No.22339012 Report

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>>22339005
What is Wigglytuff for 800, Alex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 16:04:40 No.22339018 Report

Quoted By: >>22339027

>>22338992
yes

>>22339005
no imagination

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 16:06:18 No.22339027 Report

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>>22339018
Fuck off with that shit spongebob twat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:08:46 No.22339380 Report

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>>22338992
Only if your running a Substitute. I run Work Up/Hyper Beam/Substitute/Hurricane to break through walls that try to switch into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:11:55 No.22339406 Report

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>>22338813
Galvantula dies on turn 2 in every game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:12:44 No.22339412 Report

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>>22338992

Yes, it OHKOs Rotom-W.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:13:50 No.22339424 Report

Quoted By:

>>22338790
>Sing
>Focus Miss
>Boomburst

Why gamefreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:15:17 No.22339437 Report

Quoted By: >>22339884

>>22338790
Boomburst doesn't really fit

I'd be ok with the other two though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:46:20 No.22339793 Report

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>>22338822
Why would you use Eruption over Heatwave?
252+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 338-402 (104.3 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Camerupt Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 410-486 (126.5 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 390-462 (120.3 - 142.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
if you really want the extra power, Fire Blast is more consistent though less accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:52:12 No.22339884 Report

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>>22339437

osprey calls are way louder than a swallow's. if swellow gets boomburst, so should pidgeot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:55:57 No.22339957 Report

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>>22338790
Sing is walled by Pokemon with Soundproof. In order to compete with the Balanced Dragons and Mega Mom it will need Dark Void, so it can only be walled by Pokemon with Insomnia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:59:31 No.22340007 Report

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No, Banette is definitely worse than Pidgeot.

Pidgeot's pretty shitty, but it's not entirely unsuable. It still hits very hard and sits comfortably with it's Speed tier. It can more easily do work and synergize than Banette.
It, of course, is strongly outclassed by Tornadus-T, which of all is it's biggest and most damning concern.

To put it this way, you can save Pidgeot with a few well placed, semi-realistic moves. Thunder, Blizzard, Boomburst or whatever is suggested.

Banette is pretty much in the dumps either way.

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