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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:00:54 No.22405011 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22405023 >>22405028 >>22405029 >>22405030 >>22405047 >>22405384 >>22405451

>Signal Beam to deal with Shiftry
>Shock Wave to deal with Pelipper
>Dazzling Gleam to deal with Pangoro

Did ORAS tutor moves save Delphox?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:03:02 No.22405023 Report

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>>22405011
>dealing with shitmons
Yeah, it's a great help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:03:48 No.22405028 Report

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>>22405011
>Any fire move
>Implying Delphox is PU
Dazzling Gleam is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:03:57 No.22405029 Report

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>>22405011
>Pelipper
I giggled a bit

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:04:53 No.22405030 Report

Quoted By: >>22405053 >>22405380

>>22405011
..Why can't it just use Flamethrower on Shiftry?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:04:55 No.22405031 Report

Quoted By: >>22405042 >>22405047 >>22405049 >>22405142 >>22405242

Was he right, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:06:00 No.22405042 Report

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>>22405031
Still dont understand why chestnaught isin uu. Hes fucking garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:06:56 No.22405045 Report

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>>22405042
Because you're actually WORSE than the average /vp/-goer at competitive, and that's saying something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:07:23 No.22405047 Report

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>>22405011
>>22405031
Stealth Chesnaught thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:07:35 No.22405049 Report

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>>22405031
He got it backwards.

Delphox is still trash, meanwhile Chesnaught getting Drain Punch and Super Fang made it far better in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:08:26 No.22405053 Report

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>>22405030
bug deals 4x damage to shiftry, fire only deals 2x damage

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:09:43 No.22405061 Report

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>>22405042
>fucking garbage
>he still hasn't heard about Belly Drum Chesnaught

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:21:40 No.22405142 Report

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>>22405031
Chesnaught got some serious love in ORAS move tutor so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:27:33 No.22405210 Report

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>>22405042
Good physical bulk and attack, a version of Protect that deals damage when hit, Leech Seed, and STAB Drain Punch from ORAS.

Horrible typing aside, it has what it needs to preform in the current meta game.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:31:20 No.22405242 Report

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>>22405031
>that entire post

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:34:02 No.22405263 Report

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>implying anyone will actually use shock wave
the only thing it's good for it for making ice type the only hidden power worth using on delphox

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:35:47 No.22405283 Report

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>>22405042
Provided you can dodge flying-type moves, Chesnaught is one of the better physical walls out there. Stealth Rock would probably move him up to OU with a set of Stealth Rock, Drain Punch, Leech Seed, and Spiky Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:36:22 No.22405286 Report

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>>22405053
But gets STAB so it's the same multiplier but deals more damage.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:39:59 No.22405325 Report

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>>22405286
>2x2=4
>2x1.5=4
It's the same multiplier guys ;^)

They would do similar damage due to the higher BP, but the x4 from Signal Beam is slightly stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:41:39 No.22405336 Report

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>>22405325
It's effectively the same multiplier when we're talking 180%+ damage.

Should be running FB regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:45:00 No.22405360 Report

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>>22405325
>the x4 from Signal Beam is slightly stronger
252 SpA Delphox Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shiftry: 408-480 (126.7 - 149%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Like it even matters anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:47:30 No.22405380 Report

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>>22405030
OP explains it poorly. Signal Beam main function is to catch those Sharpedo's switching in off guard, while also hitting Cresselia SE if the opponent decides to put in a tank instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:47:55 No.22405384 Report

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>>22405011

>Emboar learns scald, thus breaking the unwritten rule that fire types can't use water attacks. Emboar is physical attacker usually

>Delphox, a fucking mage, doesn't learn scald.
>Oh look at least it gets all these redundant special fire moves. Look at all the choices wow!

GF a shit.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 17:57:58 No.22405451 Report

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>>22405011
>Pelipper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:00:11 No.22405464 Report

Quoted By: >>22405500 >>22405506 >>22405535

>>22405384
why would a mage learn how to spout scalding water? mages got nuthin on dat anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:01:32 No.22405472 Report

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>>22405451
Not OP, but a well builded Pelipper its a pain in the ass, without a elecmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:03:02 No.22405500 Report

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>>22405464

>a mage that doesn't master one of the basic elementals.

Ok, going by your logic explain why baconbits should have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:03:50 No.22405506 Report

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>>22405464
Why would it spout water, if it can conjure it out of thin air?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:07:13 No.22405535 Report

Quoted By: >>22405580 >>22405618 >>22405620

>>22405464
>an elemental mage doesn't have basic control of all types

He should have gotten protein instead of Greninja

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:14:25 No.22405580 Report

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>>22405535
>he

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:15:13 No.22405585 Report

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>>22405580
has

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:19:15 No.22405616 Report

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>>22405500
cause emboar spouts it out of its wet nose

>>22405500
>>22405506
fire mages can't control everything. they're specialists. delphox is lucky enough to know how to use an electric move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:19:21 No.22405618 Report

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>>22405535
Protean shouldn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:19:30 No.22405620 Report

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>>22405535
>elemental mage
No no no, Delphox is a fire mage. As has been said repeatedly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:27:55 No.22405674 Report

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>>22405620
Delphox is actually a trickster type of mage.
Hence the ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:29:49 No.22405693 Report

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>>22405585
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jan 2015 18:30:46 No.22405699 Report

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>>22405693
gems
;_;

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