>>22460945All I was saying is that if someone says it has no counters. Then you point out that it has counters. Then that is all the more reason to keep it. Even if they are terrible counters, that will just be a waste of a spot most of the time. At least it's better than having no opinion at all. That's all I'm saying.
It's really not a huge point for it at all. But it certainly doesn't make it worse having counters. And if they are so bad you'd never run them. Then it'd just be as if it had no counters. In which case that's still not a point against it. As it's exactly the same as having none.
That's all I'm trying to say. I'm not saying it shouldn't be banned. Just that this point really doesn't hurt it like the person said it did.