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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 04:38:49 No.22471765 View View Reply Original Report

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Mono-typed Pokemon's stab is now x2
How does it affect the Meta ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 04:40:38 No.22471784 Report

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>>22471765
a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 04:42:24 No.22471801 Report

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>>22471765
Greninja would be banned from everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 04:42:30 No.22471803 Report

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>>22471765
makes sense actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 04:42:41 No.22471805 Report

Quoted By: >>22472155 >>22472296

>>22471765
>buffing greninja even more

How would this effect adaptability porygon-Z? Should it get a x2.5 or a x3 boost to STAB?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:02:31 No.22471972 Report

Quoted By: >>22472052

P2 now hits a lot harder with Tri Attack. A lot of Tanks look a lot better actually. Conk, Sylveon, etc.

Tornadus starts looking a lot better again. Slaking becomes a bigger nuke. Haxorus might become best OU dragon. Ambipom fakeout gets a big boost. M-Manectric becomes S tier. No breaks on the Darmanitan rape train.

You don't really need coverage anymore if you are a mono type except to beat immunities and quadresists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:11:14 No.22472046 Report

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Legendary beasts get a huge buff. Same with Manaphy. Offensive Mew becomes a thing. Mismagius becomes very OU viable. Xerneas joins Mega-Ray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:11:58 No.22472052 Report

Quoted By: >>22472066 >>22475185

>>22471972
>Haxorus might become best OU dragon
Not even top 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:13:36 No.22472066 Report

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>>22472052
>nothing resists it now
>can run DoubleDance without 4MSS
>only coverage necessary is for Fairies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:16:49 No.22472091 Report

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>>22471765
Isn't that normal STAB?

Oh wait, it's 1.5 isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:20:49 No.22472123 Report

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>>22471765

Greninja gets banned to Anything Goes
Not even Ubers could stand up to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:25:47 No.22472155 Report

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>>22471805
2.5 I imagine, since it follows the same pattern as the Stat boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:49:18 No.22472296 Report

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>>22471765
>Mega Manectric is now a suspect-worthy powerhouse
>Mega Glalie is literally the face of death itself
>Mega Blastoise is OU, probably
>Rock Polish Mega Aggron
>Alakazam
>Mega Absol
>Politoed
>Ninetales
>Hippowdon
>Darmanitan
>Mega Kangaskhan
>a fucking ocean of Water-types
>Serperior
>Goodra is actually really fucking good
>Cryogonal
>essentially giving hundreds of Pokemon Adaptability in addition to their normal Abilities
Everything is fucked.
>>22471805
>3/2 * 4/3 = 2
>2 * 4/3 = 8/3
Adaptability now makes STAB into a 2.67x multiplier on a monotype.
>Adaptability Basculin's Aqua Jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:51:16 No.22472310 Report

Quoted By: >>22473145

I'm running Timid Mew and the Eeveelutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:54:35 No.22472334 Report

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>>22472296
>hundreds
Actually, the number of fully evolved monotypes is smaller than you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 05:58:22 No.22472355 Report

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>>22472296
Holy shit M Alakazam just needs Psyshock and Psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:00:17 No.22472373 Report

Quoted By: >>22472387 >>22472414

>>22472334
I said nothing about fully-evolved Pokemon.
Besides,
>28 Unown
>18 Arceus
I'm pretty sure there's at least 55 other fully-evolved monotype Pokemon species and Megas to give a final count that's greater than one hundred.
>>22472355
>Dark-types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:02:45 No.22472387 Report

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>>22472373
>what is late-game sweeper
>u turn
>fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:06:37 No.22472414 Report

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>>22472373
Forms are still the same pokemon. The only time that would be relevant in the case is M-Aggron who loses a type upon megaing.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:17:23 No.22472475 Report

Quoted By: >>22472495

ok because clearly this wouldn't work. how about this? what if STAB is 1.75x instead? it would be 1.5 x 1.5 assuming Water would count as Water/Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:19:35 No.22472495 Report

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>>22472475
1.5 * 1.5 is 2.25.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:21:51 No.22472508 Report

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>>22472495
shit I'm bad. ignoring shit math would it be as bad as 2x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:25:10 No.22472527 Report

Quoted By: >>22472557 >>22472561

>>22471765
Damn, why aren't we funding this? All these forecasts seem pretty fucking cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 06:26:13 No.22472536 Report

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>M-Kanga gets Adaptability in addition to Parental Bond

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 07:27:26 No.22472557 Report

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>>22472527
Because Game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 07:27:41 No.22472561 Report

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>>22472508
1.75 doesn't seem to be too bad. From what I can tell it wouldn't be an apocalyptic change.
>>22472527
>Contrary Serperior's Leaf Storm is basically a Special version of Explosion except it's stronger and can deal Super-Effective damage and it boosts the user's Special Attack by two stages instead of killing them instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 08:29:38 No.22472878 Report

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I thought this was legit for a second god dammit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 08:45:58 No.22472944 Report

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Goodra will finally be usable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 08:53:11 No.22472967 Report

Quoted By: >>22473047 >>22473598

no survivors

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 08:55:30 No.22472978 Report

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>>22471765
Primal kyogre water spout full power

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:10:24 No.22473047 Report

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>>22472967
>>22472978
Jesus Christ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:17:30 No.22473072 Report

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They'd have to make Protean only change type 1, leaving type 2 (if applicable) intact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:40:17 No.22473145 Report

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>>22472310
flareon is still shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:42:24 No.22473152 Report

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and mono type pokemon has 2.5x weakness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:43:32 No.22473156 Report

Quoted By: >>22473169 >>22473177

>Slacking used U-Turn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:47:09 No.22473169 Report

Quoted By: >>22473177

>>22473156
>U-turn
>STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:48:35 No.22473173 Report

Quoted By: >>22473279

>>22471765
Flareon is still shit :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:50:25 No.22473177 Report

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>>22473169
>>22473156
im retarteed ;_; i ment return

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 09:58:27 No.22473211 Report

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>yfw normal types takes super-effective for every move now
>takes 4x from fighters fighting moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:19:00 No.22473273 Report

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>>22471765
>Pixilate Hypervoice from Sylveon hits almost as hard as Explosion
>Scarf Rampardos will probably see a rise in usage
>Mega-Mewtwo Y
>Extreme Speed Arceus
>Entei now has a 200 BP move with 95% accuracy and a 50% chance to burn
>Klinklang gets a 200 BP move that breaks subs and has Shift Gear to boot
>Scald on any mono water becomes completely bonkers
>Thick Club Marowak with a spammable 200 BP Earthquake

And maybe, just maybe my bro Kecleon will rise a it in usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:20:22 No.22473279 Report

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>>22473173
>he doesn't know how to use Flareon to its full potential
Ha ha you suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:36:14 No.22473328 Report

Quoted By: >>22473333 >>22473352

>>22473273
>Mega-Mewtwo Y
LO Mewtwo already out-damages it. So why mention the worser mega?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:37:21 No.22473333 Report

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>>22473328
>worser

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:44:39 No.22473352 Report

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>>22473328
Higher speed, no LO recoil and no Knock-Off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 10:44:58 No.22473354 Report

Quoted By: >>22473469

Machamp is still outclassed. It hurts to care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:06:48 No.22473469 Report

Quoted By: >>22473491

>>22473354
Why does Conkeldurr even get Mach Punch? There's noting speedy about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:16:51 No.22473491 Report

Quoted By: >>22473507 >>22473582 >>22473671

>>22473469
because GF is retarded.

Machamp is the Superpower pokemon but he doesn't learn it until Gen IV, and even now it only learns it as a tutor move.

Conkeldurr and other fighting types learn it by level up.

Machamp could punch 1,000 times in 2 seconds. Name is MACHamp. I know it's macho, but still. But Machamp does not know Mach Punch.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:19:50 No.22473507 Report

Quoted By: >>22473533

>>22473491
>expecting Pokedex entries to make sense or be reflected in in-game terms
>>Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees F. Water is vaporized on contact. If this Pokémon is caught in the rain, the raindrops instantly turn into steam, cloaking the area in a thick fog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:24:47 No.22473533 Report

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>>22473507
but it's not just the pokedex. Machamp is literally faster than Conkeldurr, too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:34:27 No.22473582 Report

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>>22473491
>Primeape has 95 base speed
>it cannot Mach Punch
Thanks GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:38:52 No.22473598 Report

Quoted By: >>22481674

>>22472967
>dies in two turns to recoil damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 11:58:11 No.22473671 Report

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>>22473491
technically mach punch is just 1 fast punch. it learns bullet punch which is a flurry of fast punches which fits the pokedex description.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 12:03:14 No.22473685 Report

Quoted By: >>22475259 >>22484723

>>22471765
Everyone would be running mono-types
>mfw 260 power HJK Mienshao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 12:09:29 No.22473698 Report

Quoted By: >>22473719

Brave Bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 12:13:20 No.22473719 Report

Quoted By: >>22473724

>>22473698
what about Brave Bird? there aren't any mono flying types to take advantage of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 12:14:12 No.22473724 Report

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>>22473719
I mean we'll see less of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:35:40 No.22475088 Report

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Analytic Beheeyem now kills everything that moves faster than it.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:39:20 No.22475117 Report

Quoted By: >>22475280

>Darmanitan
>Porygon-Z
>Conkeldurr
>Sylveon

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:40:40 No.22475124 Report

Quoted By: >>22475144 >>22475511

>>22471765
So Adaptability boosts them further into 4x?

MEGA LUCARIO WITH 480 BP CLOSE COMBAT AND 160 BP BULLET PUNCH

FUCK YES

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:42:22 No.22475144 Report

Quoted By: >>22475181

>>22475124

Because Lucario is a mono-type, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:44:11 No.22475154 Report

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"Hey guys! Let's power-creep HARDER!"
... I like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:46:31 No.22475174 Report

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Illumise would actually get some power off tinted lens

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:47:02 No.22475181 Report

Quoted By: >>22475511

>>22475144
Oops.

Still, pokemon with adaptability like PorygonZ or Eevee would benefit greatly.

600 BP Hyper Beam / 320 BP Tri Attack dude.
Even a tackle / Quick attack from Eevee is as powerful as self destruct

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:47:31 No.22475185 Report

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>>22472052
>tfw druddigon will never be top tier
>nor will he get a lego themed / gundam themed evolution
;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:50:17 No.22475205 Report

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>Typhlosion used Eruption!

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OP Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:55:53 No.22475259 Report

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>>22473685
>tfw this would make Bro-shiao a mass murderer

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 16:58:00 No.22475280 Report

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>>22475117
>Conkeldurr
can we not buff the already only OU pure fighting type thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:03:38 No.22475325 Report

Quoted By: >>22475482

Maybe Electrode would be playable.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:08:14 No.22475343 Report

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>>22471765
it would be neat if smogon did a mode with that on showdown just to see where everything lands

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:26:33 No.22475482 Report

Quoted By: >>22475511

>>22475325
Doing what?
I mean, there's quite a few pure Electric types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:30:45 No.22475511 Report

Quoted By: >>22475539 >>22480808

>>22475124
>>22475181
See >>22472296, Adaptability is essentially a 4/3x multiplier on top of STAB so in this scenario you'd get a final bonus of 8/3x.
>>22475482
Electrode is the fastest mono-Electric-type, though, and this would make it respectably powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:30:51 No.22475513 Report

Quoted By: >>22475539

>giving regigigas sheer force with the 2x monostab bonus plus life orb
dear god

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:33:03 No.22475525 Report

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>>22472414
They kind of count as separate pokemon when it comes to competitive as they're tiered separately. Look at the various Deoxys formes and Shaymin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:34:43 No.22475539 Report

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>>22475513
>still can't get it going

>>22475511
True enough, I suppose. And its SpA isn't as awful as I'd initially thought as well.
I'd personally prefer something like Electivire though.

Sadly Zebstrika is still fucked beyond all hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 17:53:08 No.22475694 Report

Quoted By: >>22480836

>Specs Typhlosion Eruption with 300BP

who am I kidding its still lacking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 09 Jan 2015 23:46:41 No.22479202 Report

Quoted By: >>22481654

>>22471765
Darmanitan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 01:57:16 No.22480808 Report

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>>22475511
>8/3x
Jesus christ. With that boost tri attack from adaptability modest specs porygon-Z has a 100% to 2HKO a fully invested SpD Chansy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:00:39 No.22480836 Report

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>>22475694
you forgot to factor in the specs boost, faggot

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Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:02:08 No.22480857 Report

Quoted By: >>22481146

>Boomburst Exploud

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Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:22:16 No.22481097 Report

Quoted By: >>22481106

>Hyper voice mega garde

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:22:47 No.22481106 Report

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>>22481097
>not mono type

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Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:28:14 No.22481146 Report

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>>22480857
ooh baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 02:28:58 No.22481155 Report

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Arceus goes to a tier higher than AG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 03:15:07 No.22481654 Report

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>>22479202
Jesus fucking christ, he would 1HKO everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 03:16:12 No.22481669 Report

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All the dual-typed shitmon get shat on even more.

RIP Aurorus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 03:16:26 No.22481674 Report

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>>22473598
>>22473598

not really.

Darmanitan has a high base HP stat and recoil is only 1/3rd of the damage you do.

This will only happen if you OHKO a Blissey and Chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Jan 2015 11:24:10 No.22484723 Report

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>>22473685
Don't forget reckless, just in case you want to nuke everything (except those occasional ghost types)

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