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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:10:54 No.22520820 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22522152 >>22522196 >>22522461 >>22528367 >>22528431 >>22529047 >>22529079 >>22532369 >>22537271

>Primordial Sea now nullify ground type moves
There, I fixed it.

ITT: We fix legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:11:33 No.22521981 Report

Quoted By: >>22522072 >>22522186

are people still mad primal groudon is better than primal ogre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:19:34 No.22522072 Report

Quoted By: >>22522130 >>22522167 >>22522200

>>22521981
It'd make perfect sense for Primordial Sea to nullify ground type moves. It wipes away sand and the like, and Groudon is part Ground.

It's also more fair that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:24:37 No.22522130 Report

Quoted By: >>22522162 >>22522175 >>22522205

>>22522072
But Groudon's whole niche is that it can protect itself from moves it's 4x weak to. Replacing nullified fire to nullified ground doesn't make sense as neither are super effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:26:32 No.22522152 Report

Quoted By: >>22536473

>>22520820
P-Kyogre needs to be water/electric. It loses to Groudon, but at least it has better STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:27:13 No.22522162 Report

Quoted By: >>22522200 >>22528693 >>22537282

>>22522130
If Groudon is allowed to protect itself from a 4x weakness, then Kyogre should be allowed to nullify both fire and ground type moves with Primordial Sea.

It's fair that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:27:35 No.22522167 Report

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>>22522072
>it would be fair
>desolate land just stops water
>that's it
>non primal Groudon's regular sun doesn't even actually help it

>it would be fair to make Kyogre stop fire, ground, and be incredible without even using its primal if you don't face groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:28:09 No.22522175 Report

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>>22522130
Okay.
>P-Kyogre is now Water-Electric and Primordial Sea now protects against Ground moves
Happy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:29:38 No.22522186 Report

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>>22521981
>Groudonkey gets an ability that nullifies its 4x weakness
>KyOgre only goes from a resistance to an immunity
Triggered

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:30:19 No.22522196 Report

Quoted By: >>22522238 >>22527872

>>22520820
Let me throw you a brick, and you throw me a glass of water.

Lets see what one blocks the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:30:41 No.22522200 Report

Quoted By: >>22522235

>>22522072
>It'd make perfect sense for Primordial Sea to nullify ground type moves.
No it doesn't, because the planet is literally a giant ground ball.
>>22522162
Yeah, so fair that it makes Groudon pointless. Good job. Totally fair for Groudon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:30:57 No.22522205 Report

Quoted By: >>22522239

>>22522130
Are you implying that kyogre is weak to fire?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:31:23 No.22522217 Report

Quoted By: >>22522470 >>22536119

>Ice Shard
>Ice Punch
>Icicle Crash
>Earthquake
>Superpower
Can anyone explain to me why the hell can it not learn those moves? It's design was clearly made to use them. This legendary feels like an unfinished puzzle lore wise and movepool wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:33:13 No.22522235 Report

Quoted By: >>22522308 >>22522350 >>22523831

>>22522200
Primal Groudon only has one weakness. So it'd be fair if Primal Kyogre could nullify both fire and ground type moves. P-Groudon would still be good, so it's not like they wouldn't be equals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:33:29 No.22522238 Report

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>>22522196
Ebin :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:33:33 No.22522239 Report

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>>22522205
....No? I said neither.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:36:11 No.22522272 Report

Quoted By: >>22537335

It now gets recover and a different type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:39:43 No.22522308 Report

Quoted By: >>22522344

>>22522235
>it would be fair if Kyogre could nullify two types from Groudon while Groudon can only nullify one type from kyogre
It even already has to deal with being weak to ice if it's not primal
Kyogre's had 4 generations of dominating Ubers

Gamefreak making Kyogre not part Electric was them making the fight fair. Kyogre can switch in to a Groudon to outspent and OHKO or revenge kill in ubers at the moment. It's the only reason people use the thing. It is currently already a Groudon check. Don't try making it a hard counter that just makes it so whoever switches in later is the winner. The game as it is makes them fighting eachother require strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:42:18 No.22522344 Report

Quoted By: >>22522402 >>22522680

>>22522308
And Primal Groudon is already overpowered. Primal Kyogre becoming a hard counter instead of a mere check would be healthy for the metagame and put Primal Groudon in his place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:42:46 No.22522350 Report

Quoted By: >>22522378

>>22522235
>So it'd be fair if Primal Kyogre could nullify both fire and ground type moves
How is it fair?
Hell, if sun is up, then the only move it has that is super effective has half accuracy. If rain is up, the other super effective move not only takes a turn to charge but does half damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:45:14 No.22522378 Report

Quoted By: >>22522495

>>22522350
Because Groudon only has one weakness with Desolate Lands, and fire immunity doesn't help Kyogre at all.

Making Primordial Sea nullify Ground type too would make it fair. Groudon would still only have one weakness with Desolate Lands, and Kyogre would have an additional immunity to make up for the fact that it has two weaknesses instead of one weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:47:30 No.22522402 Report

Quoted By: >>22536419

>>22522344
Primal Groudon is only overpowered by circumstance. There aren't any good ground types without giving up arceus.

The fact that Groudon is so prominent means we can move away from a Xerneas meta, current ubers is incredibly healthy compared to rain forever of gets 3-5 and gaydeer.
Wait until zygarde gets its new actually uber formes and the meta will shift away from Groudon as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:52:06 No.22522461 Report

Quoted By: >>22522494 >>22522521

>>22520820
Groudon is Fire/Ground, huge water weakness. His ability eliminates that weakness.
Rayquaza is Flying/ Dragon. a lot of neutrals because of flying, so flying weakness is gone. making SE moves only 2x, dragon ice and fairy.

Kyogre is resistant to fire.. so let's... make that resistance immune?

Weird balance going on here. Should have made Kyogre Water/Electric and eliminate ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:53:07 No.22522470 Report

Quoted By: >>22522809 >>22524420 >>22532289

>>22522217
Because Kyuram is an incomplete shell, and thus has an incomplete move pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:55:42 No.22522494 Report

Quoted By: >>22524412

>>22522461
STAB 100% Accuracy Thunder coming of of 180 Special Attack

Yeah, let's fuck over literally everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:55:53 No.22522495 Report

Quoted By: >>22522514

>>22522378
>Making Primordial Sea nullify Ground type too would make it fair
Did you completely ignore my post? Again, how is Groudon supposed to defeat a Kyogre ever?

And do you understand how crappy Grass type is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:57:32 No.22522514 Report

Quoted By: >>22522646

>>22522495
And how is Kyogre supposed to switch into earthquakes and OHKO Groudon?

Crappy or not, grass is still a weakness and should be treated as such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:57:48 No.22522521 Report

Quoted By: >>22522545

>>22522461
Because
>water is already an amazing typing
>rain actually boasts water
>can use thunder in rain

>comparably
>sun does nothing for grass
>ground is outright weak to water, Ice, grass, and has like 2 insignificant resistances
>air lock does absolutely nothing for Rayquaza

>let's buff the two that need to be buffed
>this is a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:59:51 No.22522545 Report

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>>22522521
Muh Solarbeams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:09:09 No.22522646 Report

Quoted By: >>22522678 >>22524448

>>22522514
>Crappy or not, grass is still a weakness and should be treated as such.
Yes, anon.
252- SpA Groudon Solar Beam (60 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre in Rain: 88-104 (25.8 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Truly the most fearsome thing for Kyogre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:13:16 No.22522678 Report

Quoted By: >>22522703

>>22522646
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Kyogre: 244-291 (60.3 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And it's not even with the proper weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:13:19 No.22522680 Report

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>>22522344
You are such a faggot

Let's put Groudon in his place! Fuck that guy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:15:36 No.22522703 Report

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>>22522678
Greninja is not Groudon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:23:29 No.22522809 Report

Quoted By: >>22528462 >>22532313

>>22522470
this, in the B&W remakes we will see the complete tao dragon with its complete moveset

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:52:37 No.22523756 Report

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>Magic Guard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:56:27 No.22523785 Report

Quoted By: >>22524467 >>22528559 >>22528610 >>22528637 >>22528818

>gets protect
Out of the way fuckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 01:01:24 No.22523831 Report

Quoted By: >>22529118

>>22522235

>I can only hit Primal Groudon neutrally so he shouldn't be able to hit me at all

just fucking shoot yourself in the head you fucking waste of oxygen

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:01:49 No.22524412 Report

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>>22522494
Just mentioning that made my battery short out...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:03:18 No.22524420 Report

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>>22522470
DEEPEST LORE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:05:30 No.22524448 Report

Quoted By: >>22532247

>>22522646
Make the weather advantageous to Groudon, you prick. Don't justify your argument just to make yourself seem right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:05:40 No.22524450 Report

Quoted By: >>22524489 >>22524491 >>22524512

Lol, stay mad kyogre fags.

It only makes sense that earth became stronger, given the planet is made of FAR more earth than there is water

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:07:27 No.22524467 Report

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>>22523785
Fuark.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:09:10 No.22524489 Report

Quoted By: >>22527886

>>22524450

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:09:18 No.22524491 Report

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>>22524450
DEEPEST LORE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:11:51 No.22524512 Report

Quoted By: >>22527886

>>22524450
>pretending to be stupid on purpose

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 10:31:43 No.22527835 Report

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New ability for Dialga:

Temporal Flux

When Dialga switches into battle, its opponent's Speed is lowered by one stage.

It's like Intimidate, but for Speed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 10:40:22 No.22527866 Report

Quoted By: >>22528446

100 across all stats. Seriously Normal Mode is just a less useful version of Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 10:42:28 No.22527872 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522196
Sure, but I'm in the fucking ocean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 10:46:12 No.22527886 Report

Quoted By:

>>22524512
>>22524489
The SURFACE is 70% water, it totals less than 1% of the Earths mass, did you fuckers fail primary school?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:34:54 No.22528367 Report

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>>22520820
Kyogre is still one of the best pokémon in Ubers and you imply it needs fixing?
Just because it isn't S+, doesn't mean it isn't great. Stop being whiny bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:47:16 No.22528431 Report

Quoted By: >>22528488 >>22528855

>>22520820
Yea... gonna have to take a rain check on that one.

Dialga:
- Temporal Realm
Auto permanent Trick Room

Palkia
- Spatial Realm
Auto Permanent Gravity

Giratina
- Distortion Realm
Reverses all time and space related move and abilities.

Kyurem
- Plasma Generator
All electric or fire type moves used by Kyurem will either paralyse or burn enemy, and have 50% boost.

Lugia
- Infinity Soul
All attacks will only hit this pokemon for half damage.

Ho-Oh
- Phoenix Heart
Recovers even more health when switched out of battle (50%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:51:17 No.22528446 Report

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>>22527866
Also give it Protean, but none of the other formes should get it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:54:08 No.22528462 Report

Quoted By: >>22528600

>>22522809

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:58:52 No.22528488 Report

Quoted By: >>22528671

>>22528431
>- Phoenix Heart
Immediately restores all health of this Pokémon when it faints; only works once

Andrew

Andrew Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:09:33 No.22528559 Report

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>>22523785
>gets detect and protect
who said my start was slow?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:18:57 No.22528600 Report

Quoted By: >>22530357

>>22528462
>Original Dragon still covered in ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:20:33 No.22528610 Report

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>>22523785
>gets Rest and Protect

Now we're talking

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:26:33 No.22528637 Report

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>>22523785

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:32:18 No.22528671 Report

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>>22528488
>M-Heracross used Rock Blast!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:36:37 No.22528693 Report

Quoted By: >>22528731

>>22522162
>Kyogre usually beat Groudon because rain on water types better than sun on a ground type
>Primal Groudon gets a 4x weakness but now gets an immunity to its biggest problem or else it would be fucked even further from Kyogre
>things are more balanced and even giving Groudon an advantage
>"make Kyogre immune to both of its STAB because I don't like it!"
Cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:42:43 No.22528731 Report

Quoted By:

>>22528693
Blue > Red > Yellow > Twirl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:53:26 No.22528818 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523785
protect, wish, slack off.

make way UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:59:18 No.22528855 Report

Quoted By: >>22528863 >>22528892 >>22532320 >>22532367

>>22528431
>>Dialga:
>- Temporal Realm
>Auto permanent Trick Room
Why do you fags keep saying this? Dialga wouldn't even be good in trick room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:00:11 No.22528863 Report

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>>22528855
>gets -50 speed and immense bulk
>not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:03:35 No.22528892 Report

Quoted By: >>22529086

>>22528855
Time Lord Dialga @Adamant Orb
Temporal Realm
HP 100
ATK 150
DEF 140
SPA 180
SPD 120
SPE 90

You gotta be shitting me if this isn't good.
Quiet Nature, mix dragon time god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:21:19 No.22529047 Report

Quoted By: >>22529161

>>22520820
>Kyogre is the best Pokemon in the game and outclasses Groudon for 12 years
>Kyogrefags get buttblasted when Groudon finally gets its chance to shine

Literally cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:24:33 No.22529079 Report

Quoted By:

>>22520820
No

Origin Pulse bypass Primordial Sun

Now it's good and scarf kyogre is still usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:25:35 No.22529086 Report

Quoted By: >>22529265

>>22528892
>90 speed
2fast4tr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:29:29 No.22529118 Report

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>>22523831
>he

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:35:35 No.22529161 Report

Quoted By: >>22529182

>>22529047
>This game has been imbalanced for a long time
>Fucking balancing it, lets just change who is OP every gen

You sound like you genuinely work for Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:39:14 No.22529182 Report

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>>22529161
>implying ubers isn't more balanced than it has ever been
>implying it won't get even better when the next games come out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:48:56 No.22529265 Report

Quoted By: >>22535586

>>22529086

I had thought of a hypothetical Primal/Mega for Dialga with an auto TR ability.

The best thing I could come up with was lower his speed to something like 10, but that would give him 180 BST points to play around with, and that could make him broken as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:31:43 No.22530357 Report

Quoted By: >>22532264

>>22528600
Original dragon should have traits of all 3, so it SHOULD still be covered in ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:05:12 No.22532247 Report

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>>22524448
>Make the weather advantageous to Groudon
>implying Groudon will have the sun up while Kyogre is out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:06:50 No.22532264 Report

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>>22530357
>so it SHOULD still be covered in ice.
The ice being a by-product from being separated. It makes no sense at all for it to be there when it's whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:09:12 No.22532289 Report

Quoted By: >>22540790

>>22522470
I read that as Karn. This thing being Karn would've been cool.

Seriously though, anything relating to V's lore will be incomplete if you think too much. Plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:11:17 No.22532313 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522809
With how much more overpowered things have gotten, I can believe it.

It would be a new feature: fusion megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:12:06 No.22532320 Report

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>>22528855
fuck you, TR Dialga is the shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:17:02 No.22532367 Report

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>>22528855
Well for one thing, the idea sounds a hell of a lot more fun than over half of the abilities GF's given us lately.

Most are just "more damage here." TR could be a game changer with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:17:05 No.22532369 Report

Quoted By: >>22532449

>>22520820
Aria forme Meloetta should be re-typed to Normal-Fairy.
And Pirouette should be Fighting-Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:23:01 No.22532449 Report

Quoted By: >>22532490

>>22532369
It should also learn pound, lick, harden, and string shot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 22:27:16 No.22532490 Report

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>>22532449

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 03:37:01 No.22535586 Report

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>>22529265
>and that could make him broken as hell.
And? It's a mega. I fail to see the problem with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 04:29:37 No.22536073 Report

Quoted By: >>22536198

>actually fixing Primal Kyogre
HP 100 (+0)
ATK 70 (-30)
DEF 170 (+80)
SATK 180 (+30)
SDEF 150 (+10)
SPD 100 (+10)

Because with those stats, against Dragon Dance Rayquaza
>+1 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon's Ascent vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Primal Kyogre: 289-341 (84.5 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Primal Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Rayquaza: 432-512 (123 - 145.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>+2 252 Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Kyogre: 270-318 (78.9 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Primal Kyogre Surf vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Primal Groudon in Rain: 414-488 (102.4 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Becoming a hard check for both of the other weather trio would be really neat, I just wish there was some way that it always went first since the rayquaza set is assuming dragon dance rather than swords dance. 100/170 base defenses get OHKO'd with max investment from Mega Rayquaza's life orb swords dance anything.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 04:35:20 No.22536119 Report

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>>22522217
I bet there will be another Pokémon game set in yet another universe other than the old and the actual one where the original dragon never split or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 04:47:06 No.22536198 Report

Quoted By: >>22537510

>>22536073
>>0 SpA Primal Kyogre Surf vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Primal Groudon in Rain: 414-488 (102.4 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You would win anyway in the Rain.
Now test it on Sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 05:11:28 No.22536419 Report

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>>22522402
This guy gets it. I feel like many people here don't remember what it was like to see Xerneas every goddam game and Kyogre before him. At least now we get SOME variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 05:18:38 No.22536473 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522152
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 07:27:14 No.22537271 Report

Quoted By:

>>22520820
Kyogre fag tears so delicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 07:29:19 No.22537282 Report

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>>22522162
I suppose you think drought on a ground type was fair? Yeah no, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 07:38:32 No.22537335 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522272
>regice
>not ice type
lets not make it regifairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 08:09:47 No.22537510 Report

Quoted By: >>22541210

>>22536198
The whole point of being a check/counter is that you would come in after they're already there, cancelling out the sun.

The whole point of the battle is that either one is able to win by coming in on the other one and cancelling out their weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 18:23:17 No.22540790 Report

Quoted By:

>>22532289
>Karn
>Like Sneasel but fuses with other Pokemon in your party

Sounds gimmicky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2015 19:15:53 No.22541210 Report

Quoted By:

>>22537510
Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't Desolate Land nullifies this "cancelling out the sun"? As in, P-Groudon is on the field, and you send Kyogre, but the sun is still there.
And the point stands, if the rain does cancel the sun, then everything would be moot because groudan has a FUCKING X4 WEAKNESS TO WATER, A TYPE WHICH IS BUFFED IN RAIN.

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