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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:27:57 No.22520983 View View Reply Original Report

READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW:
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Guide
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=159

Wiki:
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/CAPX_Wiki
Forum:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?
Current Demo of the Game:
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Demo

Right now we need:
>Region details & mapping (tile updates needed!)
>Sprites (QC, Pokémon overworlds, trainers)
>All the rest of the Dex info

If you have constructive ideas for revisions, post them. If you're going to complain, don't. Ideas are only as good as the person willing to execute them.
If you're working on maps, music, programs or art, please continue!

TO REMEMBER:
>The region is based on South and Central America, but not everything needs to be Latin American in nature.
>Yes, we are making this a game, and we're using RPG Maker to do it.
>Check the wiki!!! It has the answers to 90% of all questions.
>We have art for the entire Dex; this image just shows what's been Sugi'd (check the wiki!).
>Spriters make original sprites! No copying GF or sizing down art!
>We are not adding the Fairy type or Mega Evolutions.
>We are really trying to capture the spirit of Pokémon games. We want to make this a fun and enjoyable experience for any Pokémon player.

Battle Sim:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lv31l9h95mg8cmp/BattleSim_V2.rar

Clash's Art Folder (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=336):
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g0exdjc1rdlkg4z/dZAAdIcVGB

Map Dropbox (mapping files, concepts, and environmental fanart):
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d9n947wa2vdc4sp/ooxe-EBbmT

Mapping tiles:
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Mapping_Tiles
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Route_Mapping

Gen /vp/ SoundCloud:
https://soundcloud.com/mathias-kristoffersen-2

Archived threads:
http://archive.moe/vp/search/text/capx/type/op/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:29:55 No.22521012 Report

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>>22520983
Gym TM Survey Batch 1 Custom Move Deliberation (closes Jan. 14th, 9:30pm CST):
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CustomGymTMs1Edits1

Doppole Survey 4/Artifish Survey 1 (closes Jan. 15th, 12:00pm PST):
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Shartifist

20th Custom Ability Survey 2 (closes Jan. 15th, 11:30pm PST):
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MyVisionIs2020

Dronia, Legato, Scrapyard Multimap Round 2 (closes Jan. 16th, 11:59pm EST):
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8M3M68V

Multisprite Survey (Because y'all too productive) (closes Jan. 16th, 11:59pm EST):
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8X983HG

Map legality check period (last chance map submission period) for Dreamdery Ranch, Route 10 and Andante Bay (ends Jan. 17th, 11:59pm EST)
Put maps on the Dropbox (see http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Mapping_Surveying_Guidelines for details)

PsyFi, Fire and Bug Gym Leader designs submission period (ends Jan. 19th, 11:59pm GMT):
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=504

Demo Feedback Survey:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F88BFDG

===========================================

Gym Leader names submissions thread (names for the !/? pair should be submitted in pairs):
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=468

Gym TM submissions thread:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=383

Plot minor changes submission thread:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=493

Dialogue archive:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=169

Random ideas:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=419

Sidequest ideas:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=441

The Plot:
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/The_Plot

KEEP THIS UPDATED WITH ANY CHANGES!
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Demo_Changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:33:09 No.22521040 Report

Quoted By: >>22521160

>>22520994
>That's why the AI in Essentials has access to information that the player doesn't, e.g. exact damage calculations, knowing what moves, abilities and held items the foes have, and so on.

If I remember correctly, this is not the case. I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't have access to any information that hasn't already been revealed (e.g. moves the player has already used, leftovers after turn 1). If I'm wrong, please point out where this information is used in the script, because I don't remember it being there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:36:20 No.22521074 Report

Quoted By: >>22521141 >>22521574 >>22525457

Repostan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:42:42 No.22521137 Report

Quoted By: >>22521563 >>22521845

How are we doing on eyecatches and dialog in general? I used to write abit of it, but this dropped of the radar for abit, I'm willing to start writing a bunch of dialog again if the need is still there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:43:10 No.22521141 Report

Quoted By: >>22521154 >>22521178 >>22525602

>>22521074
we should put a little sign outside that says "mangrove's lab" so retards who don't understand how RPG's work can locate it easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:44:36 No.22521154 Report

Quoted By: >>22521165 >>22521178

>>22521141
It should be bright and neon too. Maybe the path leading to it should glow and any attempt to enter any other buildings would have an NPC lead you to the lab.

Maruno !ESSENnMANQ

Maruno !ESSENnMANQ Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:45:15 No.22521160 Report

Quoted By: >>22521334 >>22521441

>>22521040
>I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't have access to any information that hasn't already been revealed
I'm pretty sure it does.

Example: Function code 0x03 (may cause sleep), line 33 in the AI script section. It uses the method opponent.pbCanSleep?, which contains checks for the opponent's ability (Insomnia, Vital Spirit, Leaf Guard, Soundproof which ignores Uproar keeping mons awake). There's nothing in this code which states "only check the opponent's ability if it's been revealed. The AI also less prefers moves with this effect if the opponent has Marvel Scale (because they'd benefit from a status condition), and again, nothing says to only unprefer if the AI has been shown the opponent has this ability. It also unprefers this effect if the opponent has a move that can be used while asleep, and again, blah blah blah.

And that's just the very first bit of AI in the script section. There's plenty more examples. Granted, only better AIs can do some of these checks, but there's certainly nothing about recording which information has been revealed. That's just way too fiddly and unnecessary. As I said, the AI needs this kind of advantage to counter being inherently worse than a human.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:46:18 No.22521165 Report

Quoted By: >>22521178

>>22521154
actually, we should just have the game start in the lab, with Mangrove giving the player the intro speech... I mean, why even waste the players time making them walk there when that's where they're supposed to go anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:47:35 No.22521178 Report

Quoted By: >>22521208

>>22521165
>>22521154
>>22521141
maybe if you samefag a little harder people will start laughing, because right now you're just looking retarded

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:50:33 No.22521208 Report

Quoted By: >>22521218

>>22521178
yeah, maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:51:19 No.22521218 Report

Quoted By: >>22521241

>>22521208
now post the screencap from your phone where you made the 3rd post

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 20:54:38 No.22521241 Report

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>>22521218
>using 4chan on a mobile

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:05:33 No.22521334 Report

Quoted By: >>22521356 >>22521459

>>22521160
>unprefer
I'm pretty sure there's a proper English word for this that doesn't sound like Newspeak, but I can't figure out what it is.

Maruno !ESSENnMANQ

Maruno !ESSENnMANQ Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:07:24 No.22521356 Report

Quoted By: >>22521459

>>22521334
Neither can I, and it's really annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:11:26 No.22521394 Report

Quoted By: >>22521468

What's up nerds, why don't you finish this silly game already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:17:34 No.22521441 Report

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>>22521160
Ah, okay. Thank you for educating me, I wasn't aware of the full breadth of the AI's knowledge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:19:37 No.22521459 Report

Quoted By:

>>22521334
>>22521356
Disfavor is the only word I can think of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:19:47 No.22521468 Report

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>>22521394
Because making a game from scratch is hard. Especially if you don't have a directing team making the decisions or consistent artists to keep quality control up.

If pokemon games take about 2 years on average to make, it's not unreasonable to assume that a fangame with no permanent staff and being entirely created by surveys, would take up to 2 or 3 times longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:30:39 No.22521563 Report

Quoted By: >>22521637 >>22521644 >>22521646

>>22521137
I think eyecatches for locations in the upcoming demo are mostly done with. The caves and forests are done, and Dreamdery Ranch has a couple eyecatches.

Looking at the list of "needed for next demo" locations on the To Do page all that would probably be left is Dronia Scrapyard, if people feel it'd be deserving of eyecathces in the same way Dreamdery Ranch is. If that's the case I'd be able to make eyecatches for it when a map for it gets confirmed.

Abandoned Observatory is another location on the To Do page's locations list that would qualify for an eyecatch, but it's listed as "Awaiting plot" so its status in the next demo is probably still unclear.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:31:47 No.22521574 Report

Quoted By: >>22521698 >>22521863

>>22521074

Where the waterwheel at?
Ain't no lab without no waterwheel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:36:41 No.22521637 Report

Quoted By: >>22521652 >>22521700

>>22521563
they're pretty subpar iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:37:13 No.22521644 Report

Quoted By: >>22521700

>>22521563
>locations on the To Do page all that would probably be left is Dronia Scrapyard
Scrapyard doesn't have a 'cave' type entrance, it just connects directly from rt 9, there would be no need for an eyecatch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:37:30 No.22521646 Report

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>>22521563
Sounds good, then I can focus on dialog, something I'm actually pretty decent at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:38:13 No.22521652 Report

Quoted By: >>22521686

>>22521637
fix them then or shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:42:18 No.22521686 Report

Quoted By: >>22521726

>>22521652
>every art critic should be an artist!
go fuck yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:43:54 No.22521698 Report

Quoted By: >>22521735

>>22521574
For the thousanth time, it's an event (basically an NPC), it'll show up in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:44:05 No.22521700 Report

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>>22521637
Which do you feel need touching up? I know some people have said they dislike the current Dreamdery Ranch ones, so I was going to try making new ones once it had a confirmed map.

>>22521644
Yeah that's what I figured. Dreamdery Ranch is the same way however so I'm not sure what's going on with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:44:05 No.22521701 Report

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We should start using this page again. It would probably make it easier on Pawter and Mage if the dialogue was in one easy place and could be copypasted.

http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Demo_Plot_Dialog

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:46:45 No.22521726 Report

Quoted By: >>22521806

>>22521686
saying the eyecatches are subpar is a wasted statement, what, does he think we're gonna go comission a GF artist to make proper eyecatches for us?
does he think his complaints are going to magically make the artist better?

if you don't like the eyecatches either shutup, fix them yourself, or suggest a third option like 'not using them at all'... but just complaining (especially without offering any constructive feedback) is a complete waste of time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:47:55 No.22521735 Report

Quoted By: >>22521749

>>22521698

But where it at though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:49:55 No.22521749 Report

Quoted By: >>22521776

>>22521735
anon pls

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:52:06 No.22521776 Report

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>>22521749

Waterwheel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:52:35 No.22521781 Report

Quoted By: >>22521790 >>22521817

How far is the 3rd demo gonna go again? I forgot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:53:20 No.22521790 Report

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>>22521781
Andante.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:55:37 No.22521806 Report

Quoted By: >>22521825

>>22521726
because we haven't improved any sprite, of course

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:57:17 No.22521817 Report

Quoted By: >>22521879 >>22522038

>>22521781
we're not making a third demo, we're waiting till the plot is resolved then we're gonna start releasing alphas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 21:58:17 No.22521825 Report

Quoted By: >>22521841 >>22521845

>>22521806
>because we haven't improved any sprite
we get better spriters who show up and fix things. Unless you're a better eyecatch artist or know one then fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:00:13 No.22521841 Report

Quoted By: >>22521846

>>22521825
Stop replying to bait.
Holy fuck you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:00:38 No.22521845 Report

Quoted By: >>22521870

>>22521825
we have great artists, and they are getting better.
>>22521137 also offered himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:00:43 No.22521846 Report

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>>22521841
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:01:38 No.22521855 Report

Quoted By: >>22521875 >>22521886 >>22521891 >>22521907 >>22521915 >>22521954 >>22521970 >>22522005 >>22522070 >>22522108 >>22522181 >>22522342

wow people got really mad when i posted this last thread.

did not mean to imply that the tentaquil version would be thrown out. i think we should use all three. because why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:02:12 No.22521863 Report

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>>22521574
Water wheel is an event

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:02:54 No.22521870 Report

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>>22521845
I really dont feel like I could contribute with good eyecatches, I'll probably focus on dialog, and maybe just quietly get better at it until I feel it would be good enough to show anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:03:32 No.22521875 Report

Quoted By: >>22521982

>>22521855
>i think we should use all three. because why not?
This is why people are mad about.
1 or none buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:03:50 No.22521879 Report

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>>22521817
We're making a demo 1.3 in preparation for that phase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:04:35 No.22521886 Report

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>>22521855
We don't use the other two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:05:10 No.22521891 Report

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>>22521855
>if I make content that we're not actually going to use that gives me free reign to shitpost!
It's like Goraurum all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:06:33 No.22521907 Report

Quoted By: >>22521939 >>22521956 >>22522108

>>22521855
>because why not
actually we should probably only use the new ones since Tentaquil isn't even in our game and no one will understand what it's a reference to. We could probably recolor the sprite to look like Teision/Chameleohm tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:06:53 No.22521915 Report

Quoted By: >>22521982 >>22522075

>>22521855
I think Koblin and Tentaquil are enough. Koblin for cold and Tentaquil for warm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:09:16 No.22521939 Report

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>>22521907
Tentaquil is sort a timeless classic, and if you look at older pokemaniac sprites they are green dragons, so it doesnt have to be a real pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:09:50 No.22521954 Report

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>>22521855
>wow people got really mad when i posted this last thread.
and you tought it would be a good idea to repost?, just fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:09:55 No.22521956 Report

Quoted By: >>22521973 >>22521999 >>22522089

>>22521907
>actually we should probably only use the new ones since Tentaquil isn't even in our game and no one will understand what it's a reference to.
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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:10:58 No.22521970 Report

Quoted By:

>>22521855
Go fuck yourself with a broomstick, now you're doing it on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:11:05 No.22521973 Report

Quoted By:

>>22521956
that didnt work out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:11:45 No.22521982 Report

Quoted By: >>22521986 >>22522005 >>22522045

>>22521915
it's kobalt yo.

>>22521875
we have 2 different miners for no reason. and two "pokekids"

if you are really this butthurt about it i think you should probably go to a doctor.

we could always make one or more of them into girls as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:12:07 No.22521986 Report

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>>22521982
Woops, I meant Kobalt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:12:46 No.22521999 Report

Quoted By: >>22522016

>>22521956
wow we for real have an autistic kid in thread right now

like not even assburgers. straight retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:13:24 No.22522005 Report

Quoted By: >>22522037

>>22521855
>>22521982
so 2 actual mons and an imaginary mon?
no, go die under a bridge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:14:11 No.22522016 Report

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>>22521999
Yes we know, majora already posted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:16:03 No.22522037 Report

Quoted By: >>22522048

>>22522005
spoiler alert none of them are real pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:16:08 No.22522038 Report

Quoted By: >>22522054

>>22521817
How long will it take before we actually settle on one plot, its been a while now. I get that its a touchy subject, but cmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:16:29 No.22522045 Report

Quoted By: >>22522073

>>22521982
>we have 2 different miners for no reason
because not every human looks the same faggot, we wanted more variety in our trainer sprites what's wrong with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:16:57 No.22522048 Report

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>>22522037
I said mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:17:35 No.22522054 Report

Quoted By: >>22522062

>>22522038
>thinks plot will ever be finished

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:18:47 No.22522062 Report

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>>22522054
You're right, I'm terribly naive. I am a child no longer, you've killed my innocence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:19:24 No.22522070 Report

Quoted By: >>22522108

>>22521855
We could make region-specific maniacs, I suppose, Tentaquil being near-endgame or something. What I don't like about it is the mangling of a pokemon that's not in our dex with pokemon that are in our dex. I have no issue or preference for either, but would rather we decide on one of the two. I also think we simply don't need differences in trainer sprites of this sort (unless we do it for more trainers).

However, your post better not get deleted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:19:38 No.22522073 Report

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>>22522045
>we wanted more variety in our trainer sprites what's wrong with that?
nothing. this is actually what i'm in support of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:19:42 No.22522075 Report

Quoted By: >>22522169

>>22521915
Koblin isn't good enough to justify having alongside Tentaquil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:20:37 No.22522089 Report

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>>22521956
fuck off dunky

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:22:23 No.22522108 Report

Quoted By: >>22522169 >>22522171 >>22522180 >>22522181 >>22522189 >>22522198

>>22521855
Please go fuck yourself and never post that again. What made you think that reposting this was a good idea if people got really mad? You're a troll and/or a saboteur. You're a scourge.

>>22521907
How fucking long have you been on /vp/? It's the oldest and most famous thing from this board. Were you at least born in the 90s?

>>22522070
The whole point, is that Tentaquil is a /vp/ reference. That's how this works. The Pokemaniac wears a Tentaquil outfit. That's the reference. People would ask, where's Tentaquil? And we'd tell them, our pokemaniac is dressed like Tentaquil. You are a newfuck and a fucking faggot for pushing aboutt changing this. This is what has always been until a few weeks ago when this fucking nonsense started.

No one is against sprite diversity, but this is a clear problem when the entire sprite is a reference and then some failed abortion thinks that submitting more sprites of alt costumes is fine.

It's sabotage, it's shitposting, and it doesn't belong here. Go fuck off to Clover.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:27:45 No.22522169 Report

Quoted By: >>22522362

>>22522108
>You're a troll and/or a saboteur.
just because people are freaking out doesn't mean that was my intention. i think it would be cool to have variety just like we do with many other trainers sprites. look at the soccer players. multiple jerseys for different teams. it's really not that complicated. i don't know how this turned into an autism minefield.

>>22522075
again it's kobalt. not koblin. don't talk shit you don't know about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:27:53 No.22522171 Report

Quoted By: >>22522190 >>22522191

>>22522108
>oldest meme =/= most well known meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:28:45 No.22522180 Report

Quoted By: >>22522191 >>22522253

>>22522108
holy shit man, calm down

we know you're samefagging replies to that post so there's no need to be this outraged, we can already tell you're upset

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:28:46 No.22522181 Report

Quoted By: >>22522216

>>22522108
ignore this faggot
>>22521855
Thanks for contributing, we'll vote on which one we want at a later date.
Make sure to submit them to the wiki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:29:45 No.22522189 Report

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>>22522108
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE TENTAQUIL FUCK OFF TO CLOVER
>meanwhile, tentaquil is actually in clover's dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:29:50 No.22522190 Report

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>>22522171
tentaquil is pretty well known thoug

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:29:53 No.22522191 Report

Quoted By: >>22522204 >>22522225

>>22522180
actually that's just the only post I made inthread

>>22522171
What's /vp/'s most well known meme then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:30:30 No.22522198 Report

Quoted By: >>22522445

>>22522108
I'm the last one you quoted, and I'm not whoever you think I am. If you dislike the idea, then dislike it. I'm not going to scream sabotage when an opinion gets posted and even reposted (after being deleted no less) that I strongly disagree with. That's not how this works, and you should know that.

Also, I know full well why it's Tentaquil. I somewhat like that too, given that most maniacs only vaguely resemble pokemon and aren't outright costumes. But don't act like we have absolutely locked down the maniac being Tentaquil and have no space to change it if people desire. There might be a few of those who don't care, or who'd rather see a mon from the dex be reprsented by the costume.
So unless I'm missing a survey here, it's a perfectly valid suggestion even if everyone hates it. That is the consequence of how we do things, and it's easy enough just to not vote for stuff you don't like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:30:56 No.22522204 Report

Quoted By: >>22522376

>>22522191
>What's /vp/'s most well known meme then
sound type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:31:22 No.22522216 Report

Quoted By: >>22522606

>>22522181
>more pointless voting
yeah, exactly what this project needs!
Just fuccko off please

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:31:58 No.22522225 Report

Quoted By: >>22522401

>>22522191
>actually that's just the only post I made inthread

This is a lie. Your post didn't add anything to the Unique IPs, so you made at least one other post in this thread. You got caught samefagging again, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:34:34 No.22522253 Report

Quoted By: >>22522264 >>22522401

>>22522180
oooh it was dunky samefagging. that explains the ridiculous outpouring of hatred for an otherwise harmless trainer sprite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:35:43 No.22522264 Report

Quoted By: >>22522311 >>22522347 >>22522401

>>22522253
Obviously. When there are that many replies all seething with rage, when the Kobalt sprite never received as much hate, odds are it's one guy samefagging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:40:00 No.22522311 Report

Quoted By: >>22522330 >>22522347 >>22522401

>>22522264
>the Kobalt sprite never received as much hate
That is not quite fair either. It was disliked by a decent amount of posters when Comfy initially did his edit (though feel free to assume it was samefagging). And the fact that it comes up again might well make some of those people more annoyed than they were before, having deemed the matter dealt with because Comfy yielded.

So don't boil this down to spiteful samefagging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:41:21 No.22522330 Report

Quoted By: >>22522358 >>22522399

>>22522311
Yeah, it was disliked by some, I agree. But there wasn't a torrent of butthurt like in this and the last thread. No one really got angry at it, just stated that it shouldn't replace Tentaquil. Which I agree with myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:42:06 No.22522342 Report

Quoted By:

>>22521855
You did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:42:36 No.22522347 Report

Quoted By: >>22522371 >>22522399

>>22522264
>>22522311
i was there when it was posted. everybody was polite about the fact that tentaquil was not being replaced. the silly thing is that this time around literally nobody has suggested we ditch tentaquil and yet now people are freaking out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:43:18 No.22522358 Report

Quoted By: >>22522377 >>22522399

>>22522330
having both actual mons and tentaquill would be retarded, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:43:52 No.22522362 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522169
>i don't know how this turned into an autism minefield.
Because there's an autist who utterly fails to understand what he's doing that's pissing everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:44:34 No.22522371 Report

Quoted By: >>22522401

>>22522347
That's what I'm saying. Everyone was polite last time, unlike this time where one guy decided to get colon-crucified and spam replies. But whatever, he's been called out and now he's gone silent so I suppose we're back to being civilized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:44:52 No.22522376 Report

Quoted By: >>22522391

>>22522204
I literally never heard of that before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:44:54 No.22522377 Report

Quoted By: >>22522384 >>22522385 >>22522388

>>22522358
almost as retarded as setting our game in south america and not including any cathedrals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:45:34 No.22522381 Report

Quoted By:

God damn.
You guys should see skype right now.
Dunky is going nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:45:40 No.22522384 Report

Quoted By: >>22522406

>>22522377
Is this the new "ancient aztec cycling road"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:46:08 No.22522385 Report

Quoted By: >>22522406 >>22522418

>>22522377
yeah, but this is pokémon, they wouldn't make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:46:26 No.22522388 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522377
good thing our game is set in Urobos then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:46:38 No.22522391 Report

Quoted By: >>22522489

>>22522376
just like a lot of people don't know about tentaquill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:47:00 No.22522399 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522330
>there wasn't a torrent of butthurt
>>22522347
>everybody was polite about the fact
Well, that's gloryfying it a little bit, but yes there was definitely not as much rage as here. But again, you could boil that down to anons having deemed the matter resolved and thus frustrated about its reemergence, knowing that if one person swims against the croud, the croud will have to acknowledge that. So they'd rather they'd drop it.
It's an unfair request but an understandable one. So don't attribute this to malice.

And interestingly, most of us seem to still agree that Tentaquil should not be replaced. While I myself am open to the thought, my primary concern is what >>22522358 stated.

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:47:28 No.22522401 Report

Quoted By: >>22522445

>>22522311
>>22522371
>>22522253
>>22522264
Nope sorry. Keep using me as a scapegoat though. I was in the last thread too

>>22522225
I forgot I responded to the waterwheel guy above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:47:39 No.22522406 Report

Quoted By: >>22522410 >>22522411 >>22522439

>>22522384
nigga, aztecs didn't have bicycles, SA does have cathedrals.

>>22522385
>this is pokémon, they wouldn't make sense
GF's done it before

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:48:15 No.22522410 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522406
nah, it wouldn't make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:48:17 No.22522411 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522406
>GF's done it before
you've totally changed my mind now, thanks for that enlightening point

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:48:51 No.22522418 Report

Quoted By: >>22522439

>>22522385
Heh, yeah. A cathedral in Pokemon. Totally ridiculous, am I right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:49:31 No.22522425 Report

Quoted By:

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:50:22 No.22522439 Report

Quoted By: >>22522455

>>22522418
>>22522406
we're already having temples, so no cathedrals then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:50:37 No.22522445 Report

Quoted By: >>22522483

>>22522401
Gid damnit. Don't quote me when I literally defended you from your accusers. This stuff makes me think you aren't thinking straight.

I'd rather you replied to >>22522198 and told me what makes you so firm in your clinging to Tentaquil that you discredit any dissent as shitposting. Because I take you have something to back you up there when flinging assusations like that yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:51:27 No.22522455 Report

Quoted By: >>22522496 >>22522523

>>22522439
>we're already having temples
we're already having caves, so no temples then

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:54:28 No.22522483 Report

Quoted By: >>22522519 >>22522552 >>22522922

>>22522445
The concept for our pokemaniac is that they exclusively wear Tentaquil. It's a reference to Tentaquil and something that has been around far too long. The trainer class doesn't wear any other mon. That's what this comes down to. This is another time the concept is being diluted and altered past the original intent of the creators and people aren't respecting the concept.

I hate seeing things that have been accepted and left alone be turned up and have their concepts molested and altered by people who either don't know any better and/or don't care/respect the intended concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:55:07 No.22522489 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522391
Those people clearly haven't been here very long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:55:54 No.22522496 Report

Quoted By: >>22522518 >>22522583

>>22522455
then let's add sacrificial altars too. oh, and churches. but why stop there when we can add a shrine as well?
what's your idea for a cathedral anyway? do you just want it for the sake of wanting it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:57:43 No.22522518 Report

Quoted By: >>22522567 >>22522583

>>22522496
>then let's add sacrificial altars too.
there probably will be on at the top of the fire temple.

>oh, and churches
I already suggested cathedrals m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:57:44 No.22522519 Report

Quoted By: >>22522532

>>22522483
Proof please.
At least when majora sperges he tries to give us proof.

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:57:55 No.22522523 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522455
Why not do something like the Salt Cathedral in Colombia and pokemon it?

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 22:58:55 No.22522532 Report

Quoted By: >>22522549

>>22522519
This is from 2012 man, proof died with 4chanarchive if it was ever there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:00:16 No.22522549 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522532
So then I guess we'll just have to revote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:00:26 No.22522552 Report

Quoted By: >>22522577 >>22522606

>>22522483
I'm afraid I have to slightly disagree.
The pokemaniacs "concept" is that it wears a costume at least vaguely resembling a pokemon. We had the idea to fill that spot with Tentaquil (not because we wanted memes included, but in spite of not wanting to), but that idea is very much contestable without attacking the "concept" of the maniac itself.
I see why you are flustered since it's almost like one of those so-old-it's-pretty-much-official-but-not-actually-surveyed deals, but that's just tough luck.
The way I see it, the variants will most assuredly lose in the next multisprite survey. And if they don't, then the majority decided. I'm sorry, but this matter is so trivial that I cannot side with you on this. It was never ultimately settled, thus it is potentially subject to change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:02:29 No.22522567 Report

Quoted By: >>22522641

>>22522518
cathedral and church are not the exact same thing. unless you mean general places of worship, in which case we have temples.
reply to my question pls

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv

Dunkywunkr !!atAh35QN9nv Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:03:08 No.22522577 Report

Quoted By: >>22522628

>>22522552
At some point, it'd be nice if people backed this up instead of going with the "it was never voted on" bullshit. We didn't use to survey everything. Hell, centralized surveying came about in early 2013.

The more people from those days go away, the more stuff like this changes. And the more surveys we have to take down the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:03:36 No.22522583 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522518
>>22522496
and chapels

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:05:27 No.22522606 Report

Quoted By: >>22522655

>>22522552
>>22522216

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:05:35 No.22522608 Report

Quoted By: >>22522633 >>22522639 >>22522674

New Hobo overworld sprites

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:07:16 No.22522623 Report

Quoted By: >>22522639 >>22522655 >>22522674 >>22522981

Fixed the new Hobo sprite after people's comments

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:07:35 No.22522628 Report

Quoted By: >>22522922

>>22522577
It's the price we pay for doing things fairly. I'm not going overboard with it, like suggesting we survey the theme of Urobos or the regional map, both things not surveyed either. But if someone were to, say, contest Northingtons name, then damn straight we don't just ignore that because of "we already agreed on that informally". Though ideally there will be enough thread consensus to avoid the necessity for a survey.

>it'd be nice if people backed this up
I do not know what you mean by this, btw. What should I back up? That the "concept" of our Pokemaniac is not binding?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:07:52 No.22522633 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522608

Looks good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:08:09 No.22522639 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522608
>>22522623
why so white? they look like something else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:08:11 No.22522641 Report

Quoted By: >>22522643 >>22522820

>>22522567
>unless you mean general places of worship, in which case we have temples
the temples in our game are basically ruins (except the fire temple which is being used as a gym) so your argument doesn't really hold water. The only characters in our game who worship the old religion are Grass Shaman's tribe anyway and they don't have a temple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:08:46 No.22522643 Report

Quoted By: >>22522659 >>22522820

>>22522641
>(except the fire temple which is being used as a gym)
Careful with your headcanon there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:10:37 No.22522655 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522606
Tough. I hope we get clear thread consensus, but sprites are even more simple than that, since they can make up a single question in a anyways necessary multisprite survey. So it's not really an argument in this case, more of an inconvenience. And while that's too bad, it's no reason to discredit it.

>>22522623
I like it. Not sure about the hat and his left hand, but that's very nitpicky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:11:17 No.22522659 Report

Quoted By: >>22522667 >>22522695 >>22522820

>>22522643
better than the headcanon that pokeeuropeans came to the region but didn't bring their religion with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:12:02 No.22522667 Report

Quoted By: >>22522683

>>22522659
are you just a bored troll or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:12:50 No.22522674 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522608
>>22522623
the hat should be dark gray imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:13:26 No.22522683 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522667
I guess you'd know

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:14:43 No.22522695 Report

Quoted By: >>22522750 >>22522794 >>22522820 >>22527261

>>22522659
>but didn't bring their religion with them
does pokemon even have a religion? that isn't flat-out myth, that is? if we add the component of imperialistic religious indoctrination, we'd have to establish the contents of that religion a bit, and there would be obvious conflict potential concerning the city of gold and the myth of quetzar, the very cornerstone of our plot. so adding it isn't just cosmetic, it's thematic. and it's about as unnessecary as a christianity-knockoff in kalos would've been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:19:19 No.22522750 Report

Quoted By: >>22522786 >>22522820

>>22522695
>does pokemon even have a religion?
>doesn't know about the original dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:21:25 No.22522786 Report

Quoted By: >>22522808 >>22522820

>>22522750
>that isn't flat-out myth
there is a difference. religion is a regulated institution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:22:11 No.22522794 Report

Quoted By: >>22522820 >>22522890 >>22523484

>>22522695
>we'd have to establish the contents of that religion a bit

why? you'd literally just have to have npc's walking around saying random shit like "Isn't this a beautiful cathedral" "I love old buildings like this" "Don't run while you're inside, this is a place of worship" "Isn't it great that places like this are open to tourists?" etc without ever having to go indepth at all and leave it up to the player to decide what the religion is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:23:20 No.22522808 Report

Quoted By: >>22522820 >>22522890

>>22522786
>implying the original dragon is a myth
all religion is based on myth

ChaoGuy2006 !!ODv0yF6lfRN

ChaoGuy2006 !!ODv0yF6lfRN Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:23:51 No.22522815 Report

Quoted By: >>22523830 >>22525055

Chao here.

Tiny snag. Was browsing late last night, and I forgot to save the comments on improving the next set of plot questions.

http://pastebin.com/7QsCb5ws

Culled a lot of detail questions. Feedback appreciated.
> Ranked List = Click and drag answers into order you prefer them.
> Rank each option 1 to 5 = Each individual answer is ranked 1 to 5 via dropdown menu. Multiple options can share the same score.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:24:20 No.22522820 Report

Quoted By: >>22522889 >>22523137

>>22522794
>>22522808
>>22522786
>>22522750
>>22522695
>>22522659
>>22522643
>>22522641
http://www.catedraldesal.gov.co/en/

We could base it on something like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:30:49 No.22522888 Report

Quoted By: >>22522922

Who else is hype to vote for the region's societal inspiration?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:30:53 No.22522889 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522820
IDK, Vivace already has so much backalley crime/coruption, I think somewhere like Ossia would be better for a beautiful old cathedral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:30:56 No.22522890 Report

Quoted By: >>22522901

>>22522794
>places like this are open to tourists?
then it's not really imperialistic, I take?

>>22522808
based on, yes, but is itself an institution. nowhere in pokemon have I seen anything more than traditionalistic rituals of an archaic nature, i.e. more like a loose conglomerate of region-specific myths (that are true, because it's pokemon) as opposed to an expanding institution with objective yet unsubstantiated appeal to authority.
but whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:32:09 No.22522901 Report

Quoted By: >>22522947

>>22522890
what are you even trying to communicate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:34:41 No.22522922 Report

Quoted By: >>22522955 >>22522991

>>22522628
>>22522483
Since I asked a question, I'd appreciate a reply, Dunky. Especially if you take me to be a gullable newfag who gets off rattling the very pillars of this project. Convince me of why this is such an undisputable matter.

>>22522888
Don't be salty now. Feel free to suggest another inspiration, but that's about as useful as submitting new legendary concepts. There's a pragmatic argument here. There is no such thing concerning the maniac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:37:35 No.22522947 Report

Quoted By: >>22523007

>>22522901
in short
>pokemon has mythology
>mythology is region-based and mostly true/historic
>religion is an institution based on mythology
>religion has an absolutistic demand of veracity
>pokemon does not have this
at least I wouldn't have noticed it. there's a difference between temples rooted in aboriginal myth and a church carried over from overseas is all I'm saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:38:30 No.22522955 Report

Quoted By: >>22523068

>>22522922
There is a price that we pay for doing things the way we do, yes. We could survey lots of things, yes we could, but it frankly disrespects everyone who worked on these things and put in the time and effort for them to become accepted in a day and age where we hadn't surveyed things when people blatantly ignore concepts for aspects of our game. Now things such as cathedrals and elephants sketching, those are one thing. But when you make efforts to change the core concept of something like the representation of a trainer class that is intended to be a pure reference to an aspect of board culture, it's infuriating and it stings.

When I said back up, I meant support the argument to defend ancient concepts and not let newfolks come in and shake things up just because.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:41:18 No.22522981 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522623
damn that looks nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:42:22 No.22522991 Report

Quoted By: >>22523068

>>22522922
Also sorry for not replying, I had actually not seen your response. So please don't misinterpret that as me taking you as a gullible newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:43:51 No.22523007 Report

Quoted By: >>22523121

>>22522947
>there's a difference between temples rooted in aboriginal myth and a church carried over from overseas is all I'm saying.
and the only difference is that one was carried over from another location. there is literally no other difference. It'd be like an NPC from Johto moving to Kanto and building a shrine to Celebi. Just bringing your beliefs with you when you go to a new region. That doesn't mean the guy has to stand next to the shrine and read off the entire history of his detailed religion to every passer by.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:50:15 No.22523068 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522955
>support the argument to defend ancient concepts and not let newfolks come in and shake things up just because
>just because
I'm very outspoken about this. So have no fear.

I already told you why I don't think Tentaquil is such a big deal, but you seem adamant about cosidering Tentaquil to be the core of its concept, which is a vibe I simply didn't get. I may just misremember, but the Tentaquil thing was more of an "neat idea well pulled off, okay then let's roll with it" and not a full-out manifested desire of the project.

Also, I appreciate your solidarity for contributions that survived the harsh times of pre-surveying, but that does not obligate us to adhere to all of those decisions, especially not if they are as peripheral as a trainer class design. Bear in mind as well that most of the old ideas have a distinct advantage over new ones due to their presence alone. So if they are easily challenged and brought to a fall, it doesn't exactly improve the case in their defense.
Though again, I support this argument only in cases that aren't vital cornerstones. That much should be obvious, really.

>>22522991
No worry, I though you were just frustrated and fell silent, hence why I reminded you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:55:04 No.22523121 Report

Quoted By: >>22523169

>>22523007
no there's another difference. one is regional, the other is international. one is objective in a confined space (though it's also true), the other makes claims of inter-regional truth. it works because its pokemon and both myths are reality, but it seems unnecessarily confusing to me.

>That doesn't mean the guy has to stand next to the shrine and read off the entire history of his detailed religion to every passer by.
right, but celebi would have to be there somewhere, no? statues or images or dialogue perhaps. not just random statements about how cool the temple is. for it to work we'd have to distinguish urobos myth from overseas religion, which entails slight fleshing out of the religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:56:13 No.22523137 Report

Quoted By: >>22523143

>>22522820
nah, temples are good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:56:36 No.22523143 Report

Quoted By: >>22523190

>>22523137
It is south american and might be cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:58:18 No.22523169 Report

Quoted By: >>22523262

>>22523121
>the other makes claims of inter-regional truth
like I said,
>this does not mean the guy has to stand next to the shrine and read off the entire history of his detailed religion to every passer by.

>>22523121
>celebi would have to be there somewhere, no?
Celebi is the protector of the forest, as long as the shrine is in a forest it would make perfect sense.

PokeEuropeans bringing their hypothetical relious practices to Urobos need not be confusing at all. Just like IRL Europeans bringing their religion to SA is in no way confusing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jan 2015 23:59:52 No.22523190 Report

Quoted By: >>22523202 >>22523219 >>22523255

>>22523143
But having both would be too much, and temples are pretty much confirmed due to plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:00:37 No.22523202 Report

Quoted By: >>22523220

>>22523190
>But having both would be too much
I don't see how

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:01:11 No.22523207 Report

Quoted By: >>22523301

In my opinion, we should use the Tentaquil maniac. Barring that, he should be Chimcholio based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:02:17 No.22523219 Report

Quoted By: >>22523245

>>22523190
But it's a salt cathedral that's in the mountain. It doesn't have to be any specific religion, hell it could be a spa

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:02:22 No.22523220 Report

Quoted By: >>22523246

>>22523202
I think it would be confusing, and having temples already they seem redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:04:22 No.22523245 Report

Quoted By: >>22523261

>>22523219
Then it wouldn't be a cathedral, but a spa.
I like this idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:04:27 No.22523246 Report

Quoted By: >>22523275 >>22523310

>>22523220
>I think it would be confusing
maybe you just have really low intelligence and become easily confused by little things like nonessential background NPC dialogue.

>and having temples already they seem redundant.
yeah, I bet that's what the Europeans said when they considered building their Cathedrals in SA.

ChaoGuy2006 !!ODv0yF6lfRN

ChaoGuy2006 !!ODv0yF6lfRN Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:05:10 No.22523255 Report

Quoted By: >>22523310

>>22523190

Why not make the temples look like cathedrals? Or still ancient looking, but with a spire or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:05:32 No.22523261 Report

Quoted By: >>22523271

>>22523245
no, in that case it would be a spa inside a cathedral.

but it should be something else since Muddy already has a postgame spa

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:05:38 No.22523262 Report

Quoted By: >>22523295 >>22523324

>>22523169
>as long as the shrine is in a forest
that's already a detail of the imported religion, though. so no matter what ou say, we need to put thought into the vague nature of it, and make that reasonably accessably to the players. it need not be confusing, but for something that's probably not plot relevant even though it easily could be, it strikes me as too much of a hassle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:06:45 No.22523271 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523261
Muddy's is more of a spa in the sense that it's a resort. When I was in the catedral de sal, they talked about how you'll breathe easier here because the high salinity in the air clears out the nostrils. So it's therapeutic in being there. Maybe it could be a therapeutic shrine from Xochi that people go to to heal themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:07:06 No.22523275 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523246
not for us, retard, and our temples would be active
and we're not Europeans, we're building the region

you're boring, get lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:08:33 No.22523295 Report

Quoted By: >>22523350

>>22523262
>it strikes me as too much of a hassle.
then I won't bother consulting you when I'm spriting the building and writing the NPC dialogue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:08:49 No.22523301 Report

Quoted By: >>22523318

>>22523207
we actually had talks about making two NPCs, one willing to exchange his Chimcholio for a Tentaquil, and the other wanting a Chimcholio for a Tentaquil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:09:32 No.22523310 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523246
just letting you know you are talking to at least two people about this.

>>22523255
it's about having two sets of myths/religion present in urobos. it's not about the visuals, it's that anon wants the people who came to urobos to have brough some sort of religion with them. that's what's being debated, changing temples to look like cathedrals wouldn't help that. unless the immigrants are REALLY blasphemous

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:10:04 No.22523318 Report

Quoted By: >>22523328 >>22526536

>>22523301
There was more. One wanted a Chimcholio for a Goraurum and another wanted a Goraurum for a Tentaquil. The third wanted a Tentaquil for a Chimcholio

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:10:28 No.22523324 Report

Quoted By: >>22523363

>>22523262
>Maybe it could be a therapeutic shrine from Xochi
that would be silly since Xochi is postgame and most Urobans don't know shit about the old religions.

and why would you need yet another shrine when we already have temples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:10:50 No.22523328 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523318
that would interfere with Monkezuma's mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:13:04 No.22523350 Report

Quoted By: >>22523362 >>22523384

>>22523295
c'mon dude. do you really refuse to accept that this idea requires conceptualisation in order to not be a hollow addition to the game? do you really think we can plonk down a temple of a foreign belief and make absolutel zero specifications on it, all the while expecting it to feel natural and not disrupt the flow of the game? either give the player something culturally interesting to explore, some conflict between urobosian lore and continental religion (like that nobody that isn't native believes in quetzar or that they credit whoever they believe in with what quetzar did), or otherwise just don't add anything at all. don't half-ass it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:13:57 No.22523362 Report

Quoted By: >>22523449

>>22523350
he's a troll, ignore it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:13:59 No.22523363 Report

Quoted By: >>22523380

>>22523324
Wrong one quoted.

Urobenians not knowing about Xochi or knowing about Xochi is headcanon at this point. We can argue whatever we want but no matter what either of us say, none of it is stone.

That being said, it'd be cool to have some people who still adhere to the old ways but they are in a vast minority as mirrored by real world society

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:16:11 No.22523380 Report

Quoted By: >>22523465

>>22523363
>it'd be cool to have some people who still adhere to the old ways but they are in a vast minority as mirrored by real world society
I want this. but what the rest adheres to is not their belief, but materialism/economy/wealth/growth/etc
it would be a neat irony that they essentially revere xotec, without knowing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:16:48 No.22523384 Report

Quoted By: >>22523426 >>22523449

>>22523350
>do you really refuse to accept that this idea requires conceptualisation in order to not be a hollow addition to the game?
no, I get that a hypothetical Cathedral would imply a hypothetical foreign religion, where you and I find disagreement is that I don't find it necessary to reference that foreign religion beyond the existence of the cathedral, nor do I think that I need to go out of my way to make up and detail an entire fake religion before I start designing a cathedral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:20:31 No.22523426 Report

Quoted By: >>22523484

>>22523384
so you're doing it just because? are you retarded or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:21:53 No.22523449 Report

Quoted By: >>22523484

>>22523384
>make up and detail an entire fake religion
that's not what I said, don't misrepresent. I said that you'd need SOME characterisation of the belief, at the very least in terms of thematic context (is it a creation myth? one based around a moral code? elemental? essential?) because that affects placement and visual, as well as dialogue. it would help to add something pokemon in there to make it feel like part of a pokemon world, but since it's from a different region that is basically impossible without enigmatic references to other unknown kinds.
surely you can't mean that you don't need ANY specification at all in order for a cathedral to work? it would seem really hollow then and be reducable to an aesthetic choice with no substance behind it.

>>22523362
life isn't that simple m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:23:25 No.22523465 Report

Quoted By: >>22523477

>>22523380
Rest in what sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:24:22 No.22523477 Report

Quoted By: >>22523562

>>22523465
the rest of the inhabitants of urobos, be they immigrants or "converted" natives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:25:00 No.22523484 Report

Quoted By: >>22523524 >>22523533

>>22523449
>I said that you'd need SOME characterisation of the belief
and I said I don't, I could easily just do like: >>22522794
>you'd literally just have to have npc's walking around saying random shit like "Isn't this a beautiful cathedral" "I love old buildings like this" "Don't run while you're inside, this is a place of worship" "Isn't it great that places like this are open to tourists?" etc without ever having to go indepth at all and leave it up to the player to decide what the religion is.

>>22523426
>so you're doing it just because?
nope, I'm doing it because I want it, I think it would fit, It wouldn't be out of place, would fit our storyline of having foreigners in the region to beginwith, and would look cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:26:21 No.22523501 Report

Quoted By: >>22523562

where were you when dunky passed the majora autism event horizon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:28:14 No.22523524 Report

Quoted By: >>22523543

>>22523484
>I think it would fit
>I don't even know what it would be about
>storyline of having foreigners in the region
>my headcannon that has nothing to do with the Evil Team
>I think it would fit
yeah, you a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:29:17 No.22523533 Report

Quoted By: >>22523597

>>22523484
>and I said I don't
so where are you going to put it? what will it look like? it sounds to me like you just want a generic as fuck cathedral anywhere in urobos, which is, as I said, extremely hollow and might be difficult to implement naturally without at least alluding to the religious conflict it implies (like natives standing in the cathedral saying "i like this religion because it allows me to X or it values Y over Z or because it's better than urobos lore in that it does whatever"), which would necessitate at the very least a vague idea of the concept behind that religion as well as its contrast to urobosian myth. if you don't feel that's important then i hope you can make a damn good sprite at least, because your idea is standing on almost nothing substantial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:30:15 No.22523543 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523524
>my headcannon that has nothing to do with the Evil Team
Stella/Mangrove are confirmed foreigners you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:32:21 No.22523562 Report

Quoted By: >>22523692

>>22523477
So they end up indirectly worshipping what Xotec represents (destructive greed and the desire for materialism and wealth). Clever.

>>22523501
I was at home drink brian fluid when Frodo rang

"dunky is maid"
"nooooo"

AND YOU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:36:06 No.22523597 Report

Quoted By: >>22523681 >>22523682

>>22523533
>so where are you going to put it?
my suggestion was to have it in Ossia, adjacent to the fire temple (assuming the gym ends up being a temple) and that it double as containing a museum/library to the regions history (so players don't wonder why the locals would have abandoned their temple and turned it into a gym)

>what will it look like?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=South+American+Cathedral+Images

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:43:54 No.22523681 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523597
What's the one in the tomb, that looks cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:44:00 No.22523682 Report

Quoted By: >>22523725

>>22523597
not sure how a cathedral, symbol of imported religion and at least passive conquering of a region, could in any way be linked to the history of the region. it's like a church in native america displaying the history of indian tribes. not sure if I know what you mean.
though the idea of a new temple with cultural purpose is a very nice one, considering the other one doubles as a gym.

>South American Cathedral
so salvation myth then?

anyway, I need to go to bed. knocj yourself out, i'm curious what others will think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:45:12 No.22523692 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523562
>So they end up indirectly worshipping what Xotec represents (destructive greed and the desire for materialism and wealth)
precicely. we don't even have to say that, the attentive will probably take note of it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:48:20 No.22523719 Report

Quoted By:

>idea guys still advocating for something that none of the mapers are particularly interested in making happen.
Keep at it anons, arguing over shit like this gets us nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:48:45 No.22523725 Report

Quoted By: >>22523767

>>22523682
>not sure how a cathedral, symbol of imported religion and at least passive conquering of a region, could in any way be linked to the history of the region
by containing a museum to that regions history.
(a museum they built to gain the good faith and support of the locals, so the locals have a nice repository for their historical treasures, and the cathedral has a consistent supply of visitors that might also become interested in learning more about the new religion.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 00:54:02 No.22523767 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523725
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Cathedral_of_Zipaquir%C3%A1

THAT'S WHAT THEY DID HERE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 01:01:17 No.22523830 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522815
This is looking pretty good. Just a few comments.

>"Should the Leader appear now?"

This question's answers aren't mutually exclusive. It should either be a rating question or split into two questions a la

>"Should the Leader appear now?" Y/Only if admins appeared already/N
>"If so, should it be explained they are the team leader?" Y/N

>"How should the Evil Team lure out Machima? 1 = Hate, 3 = Indifferent, 5 = Love."

Change "nothing" to something like "the evil team doesn't lure out Machima, they go to it themselves". There are only two options here, either Machima meets the ET for some reason, or the ET meets Machima. If "nothing" wins then it would be extremely ambiguous. If the "doesn't lure" option wins then the circumstances of the encounter will be based on the previous question, "where does the desert event take place".

Everything else seems fine to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 01:48:31 No.22524258 Report

Quoted By: >>22524350

>Aus
>"muh shitpost poison raptor"
>Sage
>"muh shit bird"
>clover
>"muh shit bird"

One of them is not like the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 01:55:40 No.22524350 Report

Quoted By: >>22524433

>>22524258
well technically dinosaurs are the ancestors of birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:04:10 No.22524433 Report

Quoted By: >>22524469

>>22524350
Technically birds are dinosaurs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:07:38 No.22524469 Report

Quoted By: >>22524541

>>22524433
technically your mum craves my dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:14:00 No.22524541 Report

Quoted By: >>22524565 >>22524924

>>22524469
just too bad your dick's too small to satisfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:14:32 No.22524545 Report

Quoted By:

Trying to load demo, and it's throwing a "failed to load script" error.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:15:57 No.22524565 Report

Quoted By:

>>22524541
REKT
E
K
T

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:41:41 No.22524924 Report

Quoted By: >>22525896

>>22524541

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 02:53:34 No.22525055 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522815
As usual, I'm only reading this quite a bit latter than when you posted, but here are the comments I posted last time
https://archive.moe/vp/thread/22510499/#22513189
https://archive.moe/vp/thread/22510499/#22513209

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:43:25 No.22525422 Report

Quoted By: >>22525458 >>22525462 >>22525463 >>22525480 >>22525488 >>22525563 >>22525734

so reposting these npc trainer payouts. looking for some input or approval. it would be really nice to have this shit nailed down for the programmers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:48:19 No.22525457 Report

Quoted By: >>22525460

>>22521074
Assuming the one on the right is the new one, the roof looks wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:48:19 No.22525458 Report

Quoted By: >>22525848

>>22525422
>defeat champ
>"Here kid, have $5"
the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:48:48 No.22525460 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525457
left is newer

Perkele Prussia !!Y20kx7T/J15

Perkele Prussia !!Y20kx7T/J15 Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:49:34 No.22525462 Report

Quoted By: >>22525717 >>22525848

>>22525422
Dude those prices are fucking low as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:49:49 No.22525463 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525422
can the hobo's alternate payout be a blowjob

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:52:53 No.22525480 Report

Quoted By: >>22525717 >>22525734

>>22525422
Is "base payout" just a base number that is later multiplied by some factor in-game? Like the Gym Leader's base payout is listed there as $110, but in-game is that the amount you'd receive after the battle or would it be some multiple of that? Because if it's the former that seems incredibly low (Brock gave out $1386, Roark gave out $1680, Roxanne gave $1500, etc.).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:53:45 No.22525488 Report

Quoted By: >>22525491 >>22525498 >>22525848 >>22526191

>>22525422
Ricardo should literally goive you nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:54:47 No.22525491 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525488
>goive
ha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:55:38 No.22525498 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525488
good thing his suggested payout is 0

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:00:44 No.22525532 Report

Quoted By: >>22525563 >>22525580 >>22525788 >>22526625 >>22526681

So I was working on some tiles for Dacapo/snowy areas in general and I stumbled upon a super old version. So I thought it'd be interesting to post every version (that I know of) in chronological order, left being the oldest.

I'll post the newest version in the next post.

MajoraZ !!gBOJIZvLq0x

MajoraZ !!gBOJIZvLq0x Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:03:33 No.22525563 Report

Quoted By: >>22525717 >>22525848

>>22525422
Can we make it so the gambler gives out a random amount?

>>22525532
I have a few you don't, but I think you might have intentionally left some out. QB, if that's you, tell me so and i'll send you them.

Also don't act like those newer ones are confirmed you dummy, people can still submit alts if they want.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:04:58 No.22525580 Report

Quoted By: >>22525602 >>22525743 >>22525788 >>22525874 >>22526719

>>22525532
>I have a few you don't,
Awesome. I want to see every version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:07:52 No.22525602 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525580
see
>>22521141

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:12:41 No.22525637 Report

Quoted By: >>22525655 >>22525683 >>22525734 >>22526555

I was just wondering, what are our trainer tips?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:14:31 No.22525655 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525637
Git gud fgt
Yes this is an item management sim, buy all the potions
If you're still attempting a nuzlocke at this point, please stop what you're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:19:26 No.22525683 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525637
>implying we'd give tips to a pleb like you
>pokemon trainers who use anything besides poke balls are stupid assholes
>little known fact: in Urobos, fucking a pokemon is punishable by death

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:21:34 No.22525717 Report

Quoted By: >>22525755 >>22525848

>>22525462
>>22525480
It's base payout. You can find the formula on Bulbapedia if you're interested, they also have a handy table of the BASE payouts over the gens that you can compare to this.

>>22525563
I don't know if that makes a lot of sense. Gambling isn't necessarily about luck, or random chance.

I gave my approval last time, but here, have it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:22:57 No.22525734 Report

Quoted By: >>22525746

>>22525422
>>22525480
For whatever it's worth, here's a list of the range of payouts for the first three Gym Leaders in the official games:

Leader 1
$900 (Falkner, GSC) - 1920 (Viola, XY)
Leader 2
$1600 (Bugsy, GSC) - 4000 (Grant, XY)
Leader 3
$2000 (Whitney, GSC) - 5120 (Korrina, XY)

Gold/Silver/Crystal was always a little lower than the average whereas XY was quite a bit above. ORAS and the other games were all between these numbers and pretty similar.

>>22525637
I recall a few ideas being tossed around before but didn't save any.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:23:38 No.22525743 Report

Quoted By: >>22525864

>>22525580
whoever made the decision to use grey/black cliffs instead of brown ones should be shot, it completely destroyed this map

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:23:51 No.22525746 Report

Quoted By: >>22525848

>>22525734
figures XY has the highest payout

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:24:50 No.22525755 Report

Quoted By: >>22525762 >>22527281

>>22525717
>Gambling isn't necessarily about luck, or random chance
I'm sorry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:25:34 No.22525762 Report

Quoted By: >>22525773 >>22525812

>>22525755
gambling is about luck/random chance. winnings from gambling are strictly calculated and not in any way random

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:26:22 No.22525773 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525762
Oh you mean the winnings themselves? Fair enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:28:13 No.22525788 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525580
>>22525532
what was wrong with the old steps, that had more shading on them and didn't look like someone rolled out a sheet of linoleum on the cliffside?

Also the third from the left of >>22525532 is exactly the type of bank we need if boo-hoo the curvy banks are too much for players to handle. I also think that third from the right is exactly the right water colour - it looks like glacier spring water, why would anyone run a waterwheel through that filth in the newest ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:30:13 No.22525812 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525762
>winnings from gambling are strictly calculated and not in any way random
Yes, that is what I meant, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:33:47 No.22525848 Report

Quoted By: >>22525867 >>22526191

>>22525746
gen 6 has the highest payouts by a huge margin.

>>22525458
>>22525717
>It's base payout. You can find the formula on Bulbapedia if you're interested, they also have a handy table of the BASE payouts over the gens that you can compare to this.
thank you for explaining this. i forgot some people might not understand. i really should have rememberd that.

>>22525563
>Can we make it so the gambler gives out a random amount?
i had thought about this but i'm not sure if it is programmable. if it is, sure.

>>22525488
yeah somebody else suggested that too so i made it 0.

>>22525458
>>22525462
if the champion has a level 75ish pokemon the payout would be 15,000 dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:35:43 No.22525864 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525743
I'm with ya man, but we seem to be in the minority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:35:55 No.22525867 Report

Quoted By: >>22525887 >>22525891 >>22527281

>>22525848
>15,000 dollars.
how much is that in pokedollars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:36:19 No.22525874 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525580
It's really coming together now. Now you just have to take a crack at stairs, new cave entrances and be dicked around by the thread back and forth on water colours for 3 days and you're done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:37:44 No.22525887 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525867
about enough for a new bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:38:21 No.22525891 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525867
lots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:38:34 No.22525896 Report

Quoted By:

>>22524924
no scrafty

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:01:19 No.22526089 Report

Quoted By: >>22526104 >>22526109 >>22526143 >>22526211 >>22526228

tried to salvage the bug catcher trainer sprite that was posted yesterday

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:03:16 No.22526104 Report

Quoted By: >>22526181

>>22526089
it's definitely better

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:03:50 No.22526109 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526089

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:09:28 No.22526143 Report

Quoted By: >>22526181

>>22526089
oh god thank you that looks so much better.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:15:17 No.22526181 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526104
>>22526143
thanks. i'm terrible at making sprites but i can occasionally manage to fix something. i'm also just glad people did get mad at me this time. :^)

ANYWAYS
here are the payouts again with some explanation and shit. it would be nice if we could figure these out without tedious surveys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:17:09 No.22526191 Report

Quoted By: >>22526247 >>22526277 >>22526299 >>22526319 >>22526338 >>22526355

>>22525488
>>22525848
I don't like the idea of Ricardo not giving money. It's a pretty established thing that even leaders of evil teams give you money even when their plan is to kill you. At least the Hobo would make sense because they potentially wouldn't have money to give.
I know Ricardo is supposed to be a Douchebag, but if you turn every little opportunity to finding a way to have Ricardo do something douchy, then he stops being a character and starts becoming a running gag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:19:30 No.22526211 Report

Quoted By: >>22526228 >>22526277

>>22526089
>the legs on the old one
Holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:20:38 No.22526228 Report

Quoted By: >>22526277

>>22526089
>>22526211
>Polio Polly would like to battle!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:21:55 No.22526247 Report

Quoted By: >>22526277 >>22526319 >>22526355

>>22526191
Yeah, I'm not too fond of the no money thing either. It's not even really money in the real world sense. The game treats it more like a direct measure of your battling history. It seems dumb to oust the reward for one NPC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:25:45 No.22526277 Report

Quoted By: >>22526319 >>22526338 >>22526355

>>22526211
>>22526228
yeah it was pretty fucking insane. but at the same time. i never could have made my version if i didn't have the polio version to work from. and i'm sure somebody else will take my version and polish it even more. so honestly whoever made the polio version should make a boy bug catcher too. i'll be here to fix it up.

>>22526191
>>22526247
i would agree. i think ricardo should have a low payout but not zero. i'm interested to see more people weigh in though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:28:06 No.22526299 Report

Quoted By: >>22526324 >>22526328 >>22526338 >>22527367 >>22529449

>>22526191
>I know Ricardo is supposed to be a Douchebag, but if you turn every little opportunity to finding a way to have Ricardo do something douchy, then he stops being a character and starts becoming a running gag.
the literal only reason we ever wanted to include him in the game was to create a rival that would infuriate the player. If we're not going to make him an all out douche then we might as well just not even have him in the game.

or we can go ahead and do the rival survey before the Evil team survey so we can actually hammer down and confirm Simon/Sofia/Ricardo's personality

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:30:18 No.22526319 Report

Quoted By: >>22526336

>>22526277
>>22526247
>>22526191
I'd suggest making Ricardo's payout '1' but we're talking about base payout and not a net payout

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:30:40 No.22526324 Report

Quoted By: >>22526338

>>22526299
This.

All of this.

Ricardo is a cunt. Absolute douchebag. He has all of the cuntyness of Blue combined with the dickness of Silver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:31:07 No.22526328 Report

Quoted By: >>22526359

>>22526299
>then we might as well just not even have him in the game.
first good idea you've ever had

>or we can go ahead and do the rival survey before the Evil team survey
now that's the shitty idea i was expecting to see attached to that even shittier coloring job

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:31:40 No.22526336 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526319
So then go by decimals

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:31:57 No.22526338 Report

Quoted By: >>22526345 >>22526361 >>22526438

>>22526277
I'm >>22526191 but I agree that a low payout is fine (although not insanely low like 5 or something) as long as it's not zero

>>22526299
>>22526324
I know, but there should be a limit especially when it comes to the way the actual games do things.
For instance, "Lel, Ricardo should have 10 pokemon because hes a douche XD" is going too far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:32:40 No.22526345 Report

Quoted By: >>22526381

>>22526338
That's too far. But him not paying you isn't too far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:33:51 No.22526355 Report

Quoted By: >>22526387

>>22526277
>>22526247
>>22526191
I think its probably more douchey for Ricardo to just through chump change at you (like toddler-level money), plus having both him and the hobo give out 0 makes both less interesting changes from the GF mode.

>>22526277
>i never could have made my version if i didn't have the polio version to work from
Yeah, as much as Rickets Ronnie is amusing to make fun of, points to the person who originally sprited it, most of it was pretty nice.

>should make a boy bug catcher too
can't we just leave it at having one bug catcher? Just name this one 'bug catcher' and we don't really need to make another one (especially since we already have the bug maniac as well).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:34:07 No.22526359 Report

Quoted By: >>22526372

>>22526328
>then we might as well just not even have him in the game.
>first good idea you've ever had
>not liking Ricardo
Why are you even here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:34:09 No.22526361 Report

Quoted By: >>22526381

>>22526338
>I know, but there should be a limit
okay, we won't have him challenge you as you are talking to nurse joy... sounds like a good limit to me. but a dickthief paying out money is just stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:35:46 No.22526372 Report

Quoted By: >>22526379 >>22526398

>>22526359
because i have fun making cool pokemon and shit and i think the community environment and lively debate is a welcome change of pace from the monotony of a desk job?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:36:58 No.22526379 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526372
lel get a load of this fag. "job"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:37:26 No.22526380 Report

Quoted By: >>22526438

him not paying you honestly isn't going to make a big difference. it's more of a gesture than anything. over the course of the game you will loose out on a few thousand dollars. you could probably rebattle the e4 once and gain more than the amount.

if we make ricardos payout 2 dollars he will give a pitiful amount. i'm not sure if decimals work. we could probably make him take money if we wanted but that is a bit absurd.

i'm in favor of 0 or low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:37:35 No.22526381 Report

Quoted By: >>22526391 >>22526395 >>22526407 >>22526500 >>22527367

>>22526345
>>22526361
It's more the fact that it's just not something the games do, not that it's something Ricardo wouldn't do.
Ghetsis probably hates the player more than any other villain and is also a douche, but he gives the player quite a lot of money.
It shows that it's probably not a voluntary thing and it's like automatically taking the money out of your trainer account or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:38:34 No.22526387 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526355
>can't we just leave it at having one bug catcher? Just name this one 'bug catcher' and we don't really need to make another one (especially since we already have the bug maniac as well).
yeah i guess one bug catcher would be fine. i think those bug maniac sprites are splices though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:39:15 No.22526391 Report

Quoted By: >>22526438

>>22526381
we are not trying to emulate GF's mistakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:39:29 No.22526395 Report

Quoted By: >>22526411 >>22526413

>>22526381
>implying ricardo would have a bank account

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:40:29 No.22526398 Report

Quoted By: >>22526413

>>22526372
There are few things in this project that are sacred. Ricardo is one of them.
Get the fuck out if you don't like him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:41:25 No.22526407 Report

Quoted By: >>22526438

>>22526381
>taking the money out of your trainer account or something
if the player has a trainer account then why does Gold's mom keep asking to save my money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:42:16 No.22526411 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526395
Of course he does, he uses capital one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:42:52 No.22526413 Report

Quoted By: >>22526426 >>22526433

>>22526395
>implying ricardo wouldn't have beaucoup bucks in cash spilling out of his pockets

>>22526398
to each his own. this is a create a pokemon project, and i'm sure there are some of the pokemon you don't like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:44:26 No.22526426 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526413
>implying ricardo wouldn't have beaucoup bucks in cash spilling out of his pockets
why would he have any money when he's always sending it home to his 15 brothers and tomboy younger sister?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:44:32 No.22526429 Report

Quoted By: >>22526470

So Nimble made a song, couldn't into percussion and asked me to help. So I did.
But I just couldn't keep my grubby little fingers off the actual song itself and so I made a second version.

So like yeah, music and shit

https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/sets/nimble-important-battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:44:53 No.22526433 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526413
>this is a create a pokemon project
it's actually a "make a game" project. stop being uneccesarily contrarian. ricardo is in the game and he is a douchebag. i'm not his biggest fan but i'm smart enough to know that's not going to change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:45:28 No.22526438 Report

Quoted By: >>22526444 >>22526540

>>22526380
When I said 5 in >>22526338 I was going by the numbers I saw, but now I see that there are some as low as 4, so I guess 2 or maybe 1 isn't too far off.

>>22526391
>If I don't like it it must be a GF mistake

>>22526407
>if the player has a trainer account then why does Gold's mom keep asking to save my money?
Easy. Gold's mom isn't a trainer, at least not anymore. In fact, how else is the money automatically sent to her if it's not done electronically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:46:49 No.22526444 Report

Quoted By: >>22526449 >>22526460

>>22526438
>how else is the money automatically sent to her if it's not done electronically
how the hell do the coins my meowth collected get transported electronically?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:47:39 No.22526449 Report

Quoted By: >>22526465

>>22526444
how the fuck do living creatures get transported electronically?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:49:38 No.22526460 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526444
You go to the nearest mart and cash them in or use them to by stuff. Does the money from Pay Day even go towards the money you give to mom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:49:55 No.22526465 Report

Quoted By: >>22526474

>>22526449
SCIENCE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:50:48 No.22526470 Report

Quoted By: >>22526532

>>22526429
wait which track is it? i'm having trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:51:19 No.22526474 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526465
>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:56:04 No.22526500 Report

Quoted By: >>22526509 >>22526527 >>22526540

>>22526381
This is why the hobos should give 0 money.
Ricardo can get away giving a measly 100 by default or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:57:22 No.22526509 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526500
That sounds fine to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:59:21 No.22526522 Report

Quoted By: >>22526539

obviously we're just gonna have to vote on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:00:33 No.22526527 Report

Quoted By: >>22526542 >>22526560 >>22526563 >>22527367

>>22526500
>Player got $100 for winning!
>This money seems to be fake...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:01:20 No.22526532 Report

Quoted By: >>22526550

>>22526470
V2 is mine. V1 is nimble's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:01:55 No.22526536 Report

Quoted By:

>>22523318
Can we please just make this official already?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:02:06 No.22526539 Report

Quoted By: >>22526546

>>22526522
>we're gonna have to vote on how much money ricardo gives out
got damnit

lets at least try a strawpoll before busting out the big guns.

http://strawpoll.me/3402857

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:02:12 No.22526540 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526500
hobos at least might give out an item after battle, Ricardo should just pay out nothing. ever.

>>22526438
whether or not money is traded electronically I doubt Ricardo would be the type to tie himself down to a traceable digital device.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:02:46 No.22526542 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526527
please this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:03:29 No.22526546 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526539

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:03:46 No.22526550 Report

Quoted By: >>22526571

>>22526532
>https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/sets/nimble-important-battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:04:11 No.22526555 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525637
>Having trouble running the game at full speed? Try downloading more RAM or deleting System32!
>Something special might happen if you can beat the Champion 200 times in a row without a single one of your pokemon fainting?

Troll shit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:04:30 No.22526560 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526527
too bad this probably isn't possible to script because this is the best.

Clash !dErycoonJw

Clash !dErycoonJw Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:04:51 No.22526563 Report

Quoted By: >>22526567 >>22526568 >>22526578 >>22527367

>>22526527
>have "Suspicious $100" in your keyitems pocket
>later on get stopped by a cop trainer class
>search you and find the $100 asking where did it come from
>there has been tons of counterfeit money turning up at pokemarts around the region
>all police know is "shady poncho man"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:06:10 No.22526567 Report

Quoted By: >>22526575

>>22526563
>Ricardo gives out money
>It's Hoenn Battle Frontier tokens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:06:16 No.22526568 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526563
>"shady poncho man"
Clash we all know your rap moniker but this no time to push your new mixtape.
>>>/mu/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:06:45 No.22526571 Report

Quoted By: >>22526783

>>22526550
motherfucker.

For some reason they were private. Should be okay now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:07:00 No.22526575 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526567
go fuck yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:07:19 No.22526578 Report

Quoted By: >>22526611

>>22526563
>deputy challenges you to battle
>"you're not getting away this time you dirty counterfeiting scoundrel"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:13:22 No.22526611 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526578
>tfw corrupt cop nows what's up and checks the bribe money first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:15:15 No.22526625 Report

Quoted By: >>22526641 >>22526856

>>22525532
Wow basically everything's gotten worse except the waterfall. For all of the things that get better with iteration on this project, this town is not one of them.

Grey cliffs still look much less inviting than the brown ones. None of the snow trees look good, but the farthest right are the worst. I don't understand why we want darker water; we don't need even more contrast. Overall the town has so much contrast it's intimidating. The lab also looks best and most lab-like in the first one, but maybe it's a rip?

And for fucks sake can we get rid of the really bad looking snowman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:16:46 No.22526641 Report

Quoted By: >>22526678 >>22526681 >>22526726

>>22526625
>The lab also looks best and most lab-like in the first one, but maybe it's a rip?
what the fuck does a lab-like building look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:21:23 No.22526678 Report

Quoted By: >>22526708 >>22526726

>>22526641
also known as not-a-big-house

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:21:30 No.22526681 Report

Quoted By: >>22526708

>>22525532
#2 with #1's lab would be the best of these by so far it's ridiculous

>>22526641
like it might have separate areas for lab shit and office shit? like it might facilitate more than 2 people inside it at a time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:25:07 No.22526708 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526678
>>22526681
Well keep in mind it's not a big sprawling facility in the city. It's a small lab in the mountains in rural bumfuck nowhere.
He bought or rented a house and brought his books and some equipment from Pokengland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:26:59 No.22526719 Report

Quoted By: >>22526768

>>22525580
- I like the grey cliffs. It's something different. But it does make the place seem less homely, and I understand why others might prefer the brown. As such, I'd appreciate if the final map could be made for both options so we can compare them visually, since it's quite a significant change.
- I like the bench with the trace of someone having sat on it. Nice touch.
- Water and houses look great. But the lower part of the houses stops too abruptly. Considering these are tiles made for Dacapo specifically, would it be possible to indicate some snow at the foot of the walls?
- Different stairy please, but that's a given
- I'm afraid I dislike the trees. Something about the askew shape of the top layer of snow looks wrong to me. Having variations that differ in outline only seems weird too, not sure if that's intentional. If it's not, it would already look a lot better if you'd replace all trees with the types found left of the lab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:27:49 No.22526726 Report

Quoted By: >>22526739 >>22526758 >>22526775 >>22526793 >>22526847

>>22526641
I dunno lets find out.

>>22526678
lel some of these are literally the house but bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:29:16 No.22526739 Report

Quoted By: >>22526793

>>22526726
so most of the time it's just a big house or building.

Shit, Elm's lab is just inside his house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:31:24 No.22526758 Report

Quoted By: >>22526793 >>22526810 >>22526830

>>22526726
And they look less lab-like and more house-like. I'm not saying that it *can't* be a big house. Just that I think the first one looks the most lab-like.

There's like 6 buildings, honestly it could just be a house and people would probably figure it out. Not exactly rocket science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:33:01 No.22526768 Report

Quoted By: >>22526866

>>22526719
homely and homey mean two different things

also homey and homie mean two different things

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:33:14 No.22526775 Report

Quoted By: >>22526784 >>22526788

>>22526726
god fuck the original new bark town. Why do people think GSC were good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:34:39 No.22526783 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526571
oh man these are great. maybe rival battle? i has a happy vibe. i think i like the first one better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:34:40 No.22526784 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526775
Littleroot always gets me. It's almost completely devoid of decoration.

Even Pallet town in gen 1 has more to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:35:00 No.22526788 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526775
Because no one does. HGSS is the one we all jizz over and it's because Apricorn Balls, Seals, Following Pokemon, Battle Frontier, 16 Gym Leaders with Rematches, Photos and most importantly (to me, at least), the Pokeathlon was the best sidegame to ever appear in a pokemon game forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:35:59 No.22526793 Report

Quoted By: >>22526833 >>22527375

>>22526726
>>22526739
>>22526758
Almost all the labs have a flat roof (like the one in the first map) and are quite longer than they are tall. And pretty much all of them have a chimney in the later generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:38:11 No.22526810 Report

Quoted By: >>22526836 >>22526843

>>22526758
>Just that I think the first one looks the most lab-like.
keep in mind that Mangrove is more a historian than biologist, he's studying how earlier civilizations interacted with the native species rather than fiddling with dragon sperm in testubes like many GF Professors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:40:15 No.22526830 Report

Quoted By: >>22526856

>>22526758
look closer, the first one is almost a straight rip of gen IV's lab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:40:43 No.22526833 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526793
only 5 have flat roofs and they only represent 2 professors in total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:40:55 No.22526836 Report

Quoted By: >>22526854

>>22526810
that's exactly professor oak's concentration

iirc:
>Oak: people and pokemon interactions
>Elm: Breeding
>Birch: interaction between pokemon and environments
>Rowan: Evolution
>Juniper: Evolution again(?)
>Handsome guy whose name I forgot: Mega Evolution

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:41:35 No.22526843 Report

Quoted By: >>22526869 >>22526886 >>22526900 >>22526905 >>22526938

>>22526810
Well here's the only library in the series existance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:41:48 No.22526847 Report

Quoted By: >>22526860

>>22526726
This is also probably a good time to point out that Dacapo is massive compared to all of these. 6 buildings is the most of any (including Sandgem with a pokecenter and mart).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:43:01 No.22526854 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526836
Juniper studied origins.
The handsome one was Sycamore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:43:13 No.22526856 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526830
Read harder
>>22526625
>The lab also looks best and most lab-like in the first one, but maybe it's a rip?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:43:40 No.22526860 Report

Quoted By: >>22526940

>>22526847
almost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:44:18 No.22526866 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526768
Oh wow, interesting. In British English it means exactly what I mean though, so I remembered correctly at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:44:27 No.22526869 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526843
thank god the next one will be in a Cathedral

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:46:47 No.22526886 Report

Quoted By: >>22526899 >>22526905 >>22526919 >>22526938 >>22526957

>>22526843
well that's just wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:47:52 No.22526899 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526886
come on man that's a museum with a book wing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:47:53 No.22526900 Report

Quoted By: >>22526938

>>22526843
>the only library in the series existance
Lenora's gym was a library located inside a museum.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:47:58 No.22526905 Report

Quoted By: >>22526919 >>22526938 >>22526957

>>22526886
>>22526843
whoops i meant to post this one

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:49:08 No.22526919 Report

Quoted By: >>22526938 >>22526957

>>22526905
>>22526886
I honestly wouldn't count this but here you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:50:19 No.22526938 Report

Quoted By: >>22526948 >>22526963

>>22526919
>>22526905
>>22526900
>>22526886
>>22526843
What about Ghost E4 from Unova? Wasn't her room a bookery of some sort?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:50:32 No.22526940 Report

Quoted By: >>22526969 >>22526977

>>22526860
Well I was referring to the ones posted, but yeah Aspertia is the GF exception. Even Nuvema has 4. I also dislike Aspertia more than any of the other starting towns (including Dacapo as it stands), but I guess it has been done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:51:36 No.22526948 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526938
that's even less of a building.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:52:43 No.22526957 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526919
>>22526905
>>22526886
one more

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:53:16 No.22526963 Report

Quoted By: >>22526971 >>22526984 >>22527380

>>22526938
that's pushin it, that's a private collection

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:54:26 No.22526969 Report

Quoted By: >>22526982

>>22526940
damn now that's a fuckin lab. you look at that shit and right away you're like damn either a professor or a wizard lives there but whoever it is i fuck with them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:54:38 No.22526971 Report

Quoted By: >>22526979

>>22526963
I just realized it was a beauty and the beast reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:55:39 No.22526977 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526940
to be fair, Mangroves lab looks much better when the Water Wheel is visible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:56:04 No.22526979 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526971
stop nuttyposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:56:31 No.22526982 Report

Quoted By: >>22527007 >>22529516

>>22526969
Is it too late to make our professor a wizard? Maybe we can shoehorn it in as a plot twist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:56:40 No.22526984 Report

Quoted By: >>22527654

>>22526963
YOU'RE a private collection

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:00:15 No.22527007 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526982
>always drinking 'potion'
>"I've seen things man, things no man should ever have to see"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:09:00 No.22527061 Report

Quoted By: >>22527084 >>22527123

demo when? It's been over a fucking year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:12:31 No.22527084 Report

Quoted By:

>>22527061
When you help finish it. This post is garbage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:19:38 No.22527120 Report

Quoted By: >>22527153

made a overworld to go with the bugcatcher. looking forward to seeing that one guy fix it down the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:20:02 No.22527123 Report

Quoted By:

>>22527061
in about 5 months when we get the results from the next plot survey.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:25:41 No.22527153 Report

Quoted By:

>>22527120
>i forgot to do the top middle hate.

oh well you get the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:46:06 No.22527261 Report

Quoted By:

>>22522695
>does pokemon even have a religion?
Pokémon IS religion, it's shintoism (AKA the indigenous Japanese faith) if all the animist spirits are real. That's why all the myths are true, it's a core conceit of the setting.
>the component of imperialistic religious indoctrination
Shintoism doesn't have that, which is why it has never been in Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:49:26 No.22527281 Report

Quoted By:

>>22525755
Being good at it is about minimizing (or, more commonly, normalizing) the random chance in a way that favors you.

>>22525867
1500000, roughly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:02:44 No.22527367 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526299
From the image, "he blocks the pokémon center" and "he ends a battle early to run from the cops" are the only good options here. Because one is incredibly dickish (but surmountable) and the other is a really interesting and unique way to subvert the usual battle system while remaining consistent with logic.

>>22526381
Why would Ricardo have a trainer account? He's an outlaw. You know how criminals do things? Cash. Plus then he can have a hidden stash somewhere, there could even be an event where you find his secret base in the desert somewhere.

>>22526527
>>22526563
This is an even better idea - but we could also do that for one battle only and just do $0 normally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:03:45 No.22527375 Report

Quoted By: >>22527404 >>22527433

>>22526793
>putting a flat roof in a snowy area
It's like you don't know literally the first thing about architecture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:04:46 No.22527380 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526963
>a private library isn't a library
OK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:11:22 No.22527404 Report

Quoted By:

>>22527375
I was only stating what the ones in the picture had in common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:16:56 No.22527433 Report

Quoted By: >>22527471

>>22527375
http://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/20980830/list/have-your-flat-roof-and-your-snow-too

I've lived in snowy places for a long time. There are buildings with flat roofs. I'm not an architect, but I doubt you are either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 08:26:58 No.22527471 Report

Quoted By:

>>22527433
I'm a construction contractor, and my dad is an architect. Yes, you can put a flat roof in a snowy area. It's not economic or advisable, especially in areas that get a lot of snow, such as high in the mountains. Also note that for the "myths" in your article, it doesn't actually say "this isn't true" for any of them, just "this isn't as big a deal as people think", and (in the case of the structural strength one) "On my house I'd have done it anyway". For something like a lab, which is a functional building and not a concept-designed house that you want to have a low profile, there is no reason to accept the significant extra hassle with a trivial functional benefit in insulation requirements and a subjective benefit in aesthetics.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 09:33:56 No.22527654 Report

Quoted By:

>>22526984
Why did I laugh so hard...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 09:39:11 No.22527675 Report

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:21:04 No.22528611 Report

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>>22527675
she should be named Irene so she can be Stella's sister who's secretly working with the Evil Team (she got involved with them to begin with because the Leader offered her factory a huge contract, when he promised to show her a way to become as rich and successful as he is she became blinded by greed and accepted a position on his elite team)

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:48:21 No.22528782 Report

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>>22527675
HAHAHAHAHA GET IT I BUTCHERED HER NAME BECAUSE FE IS IRON AND IT'S ERION WHICH IS ALSO KIND OF LIKE IRON GET IT

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:51:19 No.22528806 Report

Quoted By: >>22529137

>>22528782
>>22527675
Feona would mean something like "very ugly girl" in Spanish

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 15:31:20 No.22529137 Report

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>>22528806
good thing she's not Spanish.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:22:15 No.22529449 Report

Quoted By: >>22529482 >>22529488

>>22526299
Ugh, that image was from when that terrible idea of one of the Elite 4 being a bounty hunter who runs around alongside you randomly throughout the game.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:29:11 No.22529482 Report

Quoted By: >>22529487

>>22529449
people still like that idea. bounty hunter who turns out to be pokeman or some shit.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:31:16 No.22529487 Report

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>>22529482
> masked bounty hunter
> takes off mask
> pokeman underneath

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:31:17 No.22529488 Report

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>>22529449
yes it is

also
the fact that one bad idea about the E4 was being pushed around the same time that Ricardo's original characterization was being discussed doesn't mean we should abandon Ricardo's characterization because people are worried about it becoming a joke
>muh, There has to be a limit guis, he can't always be a dick
maybe he's nice offscreen.
>angsty specialsnowflake tumblrfags plz go

and
bounty hunter E4 wasn't a bad idea, it's just that people didn't want Ricardo to be such an important character that the E4 would be concerned with tracking him down people probably would have been more open to the idea if it was just being suggested that the E4 member was a bounty hunter but not that he was after Dicks... also that one faggot pushing his autism about the E4 not being allowed to have side jobs

also also
>nutty a shit

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:35:15 No.22529516 Report

Quoted By: >>22529546

>>22526982
Save it for Gen 2, based in post-WWI pokegermany.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:37:13 No.22529546 Report

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>>22529516
or the 'comfy version' mod

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:45:50 No.22529602 Report

Quoted By: >>22529619

>>22529488
No, Ricardo existed well before that in his dickishness, he was just trying to be shoehorned into the main antagonist spot at the time.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:49:07 No.22529619 Report

Quoted By: >>22529665

>>22529602
>No, Ricardo existed well before that in his dickishness
yes but that image was made after one thread when ideas for how to portray his dickishness in game was actually being discussed, which happened to also coincide with discussions about the E4 possibly being a bounty hunter... which is basically what I said.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 16:57:26 No.22529665 Report

Quoted By: >>22529717

>>22529619
Yeah, I'd argue these ideas were less coincidence, and more spurred on by the Elite 4 disscussion, but whatever. None of this is really productive disscussion.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:05:41 No.22529712 Report

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>>22528611
If we get good character art of this, I might just get behind it.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:06:32 No.22529717 Report

Quoted By: >>22529729

>>22529665
actually since I made the image I can safely tell you the idea of the E4 being a bounty hunter was inspired by Ricardo being an outlaw, and not the other way around.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:09:14 No.22529729 Report

Quoted By: >>22529739

>>22529717
... I think we might be talking about two different things, as I agree with that.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:12:10 No.22529739 Report

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>>22529729
no worries, you're probably just bad at communicating.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:06:34 No.22530148 Report

Quoted By: >>22530200 >>22530279 >>22530318 >>22530347

how did we fuck up paramoth so badly?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:11:58 No.22530196 Report

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>>22529137
>

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:12:53 No.22530200 Report

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>>22530148

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:20:53 No.22530264 Report

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>>22528782
Feona was one of Stellla's many proposed names

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:22:22 No.22530279 Report

Quoted By: >>22530446

>>22530148
Constant people hating anything close to a feminine design.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:26:29 No.22530318 Report

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>>22530148
furries did

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:30:10 No.22530347 Report

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>>22530148
Furries ruin everthing

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:41:37 No.22530446 Report

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>>22530279
>>22530318
>>22530347
you act as though it wasn't the exact opposite. people didn't like it because they thought it was furbait, which it most likely wasn't for them. they couldn't see past the serenity of the design and focused solely on the aspect of waifu culture. had that not been such a tempting leap, it would've been fine.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:47:06 No.22530475 Report

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>>22530446
>they couldn't see past the serenity of the design and focused solely on the aspect of waifu culture
in their defense the only reason it's even in the dex is because people wanted one more waifu mon... literally

>inb4 "buh that's not what happend"
yes it is, you know it, I know it, rainbowdragon knows it. You're being disingenuous to say otherwise.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:56:00 No.22530547 Report

Quoted By: >>22530585

>>22530475
yeah, I'm painfully aware of that. even so, it was perfectly possible to see the design as nothing more than a design that, due to its concept, turned out regal and serene. it still bothers me that, in the end, people opposed it out of principle and not out of dislike for the design itself. not necessarily, at least.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:58:07 No.22530566 Report

Quoted By: >>22530596

>>22530446
you speak like if the furrymoths were the good option or something

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 19:00:04 No.22530585 Report

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>>22530547
>it still bothers me that, in the end, people opposed it out of principle and not out of dislike for the design itself.
>how_i_feel_about_sean.txt

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 19:00:55 No.22530596 Report

Quoted By: >>22530636 >>22530661

>>22530566
I liked the second-to-last design for them better than what we have now, let's just put it that way.
water under the bridge though.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 19:05:29 No.22530636 Report

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>>22530596
yep, thank god

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 19:08:18 No.22530661 Report

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>>22530596
>lets just ignore them
if only we had done this 4 or 5 redesigns ago

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