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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 03:57:11 No.22525511 View View Reply Original Report

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>Is called the Volcano Pokemon
>Can't learn Earth Power

>Evolves specifically to gain free use of its forearms
>Can't learn Grass Knot

>Special Attacker
>Here have Thunderpunch

Wow, Fuck You too Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:01:00 No.22525536 Report

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Hmm I wonder if we've had a thread devoted to bitching about every single pokemon by now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:03:05 No.22525557 Report

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>Evolves specifically to gain free use of its forearms
>Here have Thunderpunch
idiot.

typhlosion is great in-game and has his niche in the metagame too (scarf eruption).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:03:18 No.22525559 Report

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>>22525511
I mean, when it first learned Thunder Punch it was a Special Attack still. It kinda made more sense at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:05:12 No.22525583 Report

Quoted By: >>22529840

>>22525511
>>Special Attacker
>>Here have Thunderpunch
A bloo bloo, my special snowflake starter that I shove at everyone is shit. Reminder that they made flareon.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:05:24 No.22525586 Report

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>>22525511
Are you me? Do you also kind of think Typhlosion should get Thunderbolt because
A. Magmortar gets it and
B. Pic related happens?
Also one of the last Pokemon to still not have access to its hidden ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:06:28 No.22525595 Report

Quoted By: >>22525631

84base attack is still good.
Just make it a mixed attacker with overheat as the special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:11:50 No.22525631 Report

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>>22525595
>84 attack
>good
Literally more than half of all fully evolved have higher base attack, it's only got good physical coverage going for it, but even then Magmortar can do exactly the same thing but better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 04:25:56 No.22525766 Report

Quoted By: >>22526199

>>22525511

Typhlosion, alongside Meganium, are the only two starters to not have been updated in two whole generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:03:00 No.22526100 Report

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>>22525511
Can you really blame Game Freak for ignoring irrelevant Pokemon like Typhlosion?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:05:47 No.22526118 Report

Quoted By: >>22526666

>Introducted in gen 2
>Special Attacker
>Here have Thunderpunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:11:02 No.22526152 Report

Quoted By: >>22526182 >>22526203 >>22526212

>>22525631

People seem to think Talonflame's 81 Attack is okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:15:26 No.22526182 Report

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>>22526152
With Gale Wings it is. If Typhlosion got a fire version of it then yeah, he'd be a lot better, but still not Talonflame level because Flying is a much better offensive type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:16:26 No.22526186 Report

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>>22526100
>fully evolved starter
>irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:18:16 No.22526199 Report

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>>22525766
I don't understand what that means at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:18:47 No.22526203 Report

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>>22526152
Because the only two attacking moves it needs to use are 120 BP STAB moves and it can often carry a choice band.

A 75 BP coverage move isn't going to do shit with 84 attack, and if you are running scarfed typhlosion, you get no damage boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:19:33 No.22526212 Report

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>>22526152
Talonflame gets away with it with Swords Dance and high BP STABs(one of them with priority and is one of the best offensive types). Typlosion would be better off as a special attacker since it can't boost any of it's offenses(and its still outclassed no matter what attacking role it tries to do).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:19:51 No.22526218 Report

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I always wished he got Ground as a secondary type. He would have massive water weakness, but I like the whole volcano based moves it gets, and it fits it more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 05:20:23 No.22526224 Report

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>>22526186
Starters are symbols of their respective region. The Johto region is currently not relevant. Maybe in the future in a remake, or if Johto gets a future region that sucks its dick like Kalos did for Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:20:22 No.22526666 Report

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>>22526118
stop samefagging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:29:11 No.22526738 Report

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>pokemon designed for gen 2 mechanics
>surprised it becomes pure shit once the game adds more mechanics
Thunderpunch was awesome gen 2 btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:35:06 No.22526789 Report

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>>22526666
>samefagging
>quotes one person

okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 06:53:49 No.22526965 Report

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>free use of forearms
>Grass knot
Wtf does one thing have to do with the other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:06:09 No.22527048 Report

Quoted By: >>22528591

>>22526224
>or if Johto gets a future region that sucks its dick like Kalos did for Kanto
>Literally the only part of Kalos that is similar to Kanto is Santalune Forest

>Reflection Cave
>Lumious City (Paris
>Camphrier Town (it has a fucking castle)
>Geosenge Town (Stone Henge)
>Route 14
>Pokeball Factory
>Dendemille Town (Giant Wind Mill with Ice Cave Behind it, and ice path blocking one of the routes. You use a Mamoswine to cross it)
>Snowbelle City (Snow City)
>Tower of Mastery
>Parfum Palace

It has more, but you get the point. Kalos didn't really feature that much at all from Kanto, and the two regions one forest aside aren't remotely similar.

Now Gen VI did pander to Gen I. With the Santalune Forest, and The Flute to wake up Snorlax, the starters. Including a lot of Gen 1 mons. Some other stuff. Yeah it pandered to Gen I, but Kalos the region wasn't like Kanto. Just because the game tries to appeal to Gen I fans, and panders to them. Doesn't mean Kalos and Kanto are at all the same.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 07:07:22 No.22527054 Report

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>>22525511
Stfu atleast yours is usuable and has a niche

Being a meganium fag and torterra bros suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 09:52:17 No.22527704 Report

Quoted By: >>22528268

>>22525511
It happened before the Phys/Special split.
GF only showed willingness to retcon stats for X and Y.
If they ever do retcon older starters stats then you can expect physical Sceptile and Thyplosion to become a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:09:53 No.22528268 Report

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>>22527704
Or they could just give it Thunderbolt and Earth Power and call it a day. We have enough physical Fire types allready.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:17:50 No.22528294 Report

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Back in gen2 when electric was special thunder punch was a god send. They unintentionally gimped him and never made it up to us

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 13:19:53 No.22528301 Report

Quoted By: >>22529848

Guys

no

c'mon.

There's an unspoken rule about not posting Typhlosion threads as often as we'd like.

Otherwise, everyone will think we're faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 14:15:47 No.22528591 Report

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>>22527048
When did I say that Kalos and Kanto were similar? I just meant it had a noticeable amount of pandering. If we got something similar that panders Johto, we may get Megas and new moves for the starters and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:30:03 No.22529840 Report

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>>22525583
Reminder that they made Heatmor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:30:55 No.22529846 Report

Quoted By: >>22530171

>>22525511
What does having arms have to do with the magical ability to create plant matter designed to entangle an enemy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:31:05 No.22529848 Report

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>>22528301
Everyone knows you're faggots.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:32:10 No.22529856 Report

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>Volcano Pokémon
>learns Eruption

sounds about right

40% !//v.13zk5M

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40% !//v.13zk5M Wed 14 Jan 2015 17:32:26 No.22529859 Report

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>tfw had a bro as fuck Thunderpunch Typh in gen 2
>tfw couldn't bring him over
>tfw always wanted to train another but never got fully into EV training and shit in gen 3
>gen 4 comes around and Typh can't use Tpunch well anymore
>they never gave him anything to replace it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:09:56 No.22530171 Report

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>>22529846

>implying it's not just tying some nearby foliage up like a jackass to trip the opponent up

>http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/grassknot.shtml

Nearly every rodentesque Pokemon with visible manipulators learns grass knot, except Typhlosion. Fuck, Infernape learns grass knot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:35:42 No.22530391 Report

Quoted By: >>22530507

>>22525511
Thunderpunch wrecked in game in crystal tho

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 18:51:02 No.22530507 Report

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>>22530391
It was special back then.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jan 2015 19:13:20 No.22530716 Report

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>>22525511
A shit starter that is also shit competitively? Seems pretty fitting.

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