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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:26:42 No.22571122 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22571130 >>22571162 >>22575501 >>22577651 >>22578191 >>22578216 >>22579271 >>22579872

>Ice types resist Fairy attacks
>Ice types will now have their Defense raised by 50% during Hail

Why can't GF implement these? Does their hate for the ice type know no bounds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:27:56 No.22571130 Report

Quoted By: >>22580630

>>22571122
They still fear Gen I Ice types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:30:28 No.22571152 Report

Quoted By: >>22571209 >>22574996

Why doesn't Ice resist Water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:31:15 No.22571158 Report

Quoted By: >>22571202 >>22577879

Fairy resistance makes no sense at all. Dragon, Ground, and Flying resistances sound more logical and would buff this type tremendously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:31:43 No.22571162 Report

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>>22571122
as a fan of grass type, I feel you ice type fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:36:04 No.22571202 Report

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>>22571158
Given the lore, fairies being both weak to Fire and Ice does make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2015 18:36:35 No.22571209 Report

Quoted By: >>22575530

>>22571152
Why would it? Water needs a nerf but that's far fetched

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 01:04:11 No.22574996 Report

Quoted By: >>22575515 >>22577624

>>22571152
Because when you throw Water at a chunk of Ice, Ice tends to melt a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:00:08 No.22575497 Report

Quoted By: >>22577692

Ice is now super-effective against Fairy, and now resists Fairy, Dragon, Ground, and Flying.

How does the Meta change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:00:31 No.22575501 Report

Quoted By: >>22575523 >>22575545 >>22581257

>>22571122

why would ice resist fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:02:21 No.22575515 Report

Quoted By: >>22577869 >>22580639

>>22574996
And water tends to freeze

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:03:27 No.22575523 Report

Quoted By: >>22575526

>>22575501
Because fairy needs a nerf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:03:59 No.22575526 Report

Quoted By: >>22575543

>>22575523
>>22575523

but why would ice resist fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:04:25 No.22575530 Report

Quoted By: >>22577758

>>22571209
Why does Water resist Ice but not the other way around?

It's bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:06:50 No.22575543 Report

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>>22575526
I got this.

Fairies and pixies are woodland creatures amirite?

Fairies would die in a frost. Since they are small and frail and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:07:06 No.22575545 Report

Quoted By: >>22575711 >>22580483

>>22575501
Fairy is there only to buff up the defensive types offensively, & the nerf the offensive type
There is no obvious understandable reason why Fairies are weak to steel, but Poison is a bit understandable
not antifairyfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:10:12 No.22575574 Report

Quoted By: >>22575675

>fairy needs a nerf
>ice needs a buff
>hurr lets add an interaction between them that makes no fucking sense

Or you could just remove fairy resistance to bug, because that makes no sense in the first place, and make ice resist dragon, since it's strong against dragons (because reptiles are cold-blooded).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:21:18 No.22575675 Report

Quoted By: >>22575679

>>22575574
Grass needs to resist or be immune to Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:22:35 No.22575679 Report

Quoted By: >>22577892 >>22581309

>>22575675

Fucking why? Every bulky grass type already walls fairies barring flamethrower clefairy. What an arbitrary and useless change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:27:26 No.22575711 Report

Quoted By: >>22575741 >>22575886 >>22575928 >>22577753

>>22575545
>There is no obvious understandable reason why Fairies are weak to steel

The primary vulnerability of mythological fairies is Cold Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:31:22 No.22575741 Report

Quoted By: >>22575807 >>22576691

>>22575711
>The primary vulnerability of mythological fairies is Cold Steel
source: your butthole

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:38:50 No.22575807 Report

Quoted By: >>22575907

>>22575741
Read any god damn Celtic myth. Look up the reason why Horse shoes are considered lucky. I did however mean to say Cold Iron rather than Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:49:21 No.22575886 Report

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>>22575711
>The primary vulnerability of mythological fairies is Cold Steel

Finally! the katana I bought will be put to good use on something other than 10 gallon water barrels!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:51:43 No.22575907 Report

Quoted By: >>22577681

>>22575807
wow man sorry for not being read up on my celtic myths

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 02:53:51 No.22575928 Report

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>>22575711
ah, makes sense
But the fact that Fairy is weak to probably the more defensive mons makes things look a bit, suspicious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 04:11:17 No.22576691 Report

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>>22575741

expect nothing less that sheer autism from /vp/

Stay retarded pokefags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:23:31 No.22577624 Report

Quoted By: >>22577737

>>22574996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFtYUUXJlE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:26:02 No.22577651 Report

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>>22571122
no. ice should resist ground and water.
water should also be weak to poison.

I think that should be good enough for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:27:54 No.22577681 Report

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>>22575907

>accuse people of making things up because you're an uneducated faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:29:23 No.22577692 Report

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>>22575497
More Rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:31:35 No.22577717 Report

Quoted By: >>22577764 >>22577812 >>22577815 >>22577821 >>22577848 >>22579536 >>22581342

Why does no one every bitch about electric types?

They're only weakness is ground.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:33:45 No.22577737 Report

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>>22577624
Don't most Water-types live in warm waters and salt-waters? It takes a lower freezing point to freeze salt-water. Otherwise, Ice types aren't cool enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:34:38 No.22577753 Report

Quoted By: >>22580297

>>22575711

Pssh nothing personal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:35:22 No.22577758 Report

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>>22575530
fast water flow wrecks ice worse than hot air

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:35:53 No.22577764 Report

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>>22577717
that actually makes sense though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:39:52 No.22577812 Report

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>>22577717
They pretty balanced everything hits neutral against them and they hit neutral against everyone else. Electric type pokemon tend to be frail and shitty to. If they released some solid pseudo legendariy electrics people might complain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:40:00 No.22577815 Report

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>>22577717
monotypes aren't great for defense and only a few dual types like Magnezone, Rotom, and Thundurus pull off dual-typed bulk well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:40:25 No.22577821 Report

Quoted By: >>22577907

>>22577717
Most of them can't take hits and everyone and their cousins run EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:43:29 No.22577848 Report

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>>22577717
They don't get the right tools for defense and flying is the only type that covers ground without being a shitty defensive typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:46:05 No.22577867 Report

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Why does rock hit super effective against ice. If ice is a chief weathering mechanism against rocks. Ice is pretty damn resistant Too. I never understood why fighting hits super against soo many things

As far as the pokemon game is concerned. If you can take 2 resistances away from steel types u should give 2 sorely needed resistances to ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:46:09 No.22577869 Report

Quoted By: >>22578454 >>22578467

>>22575515
go get an icecube out of the fridge right now.
okay now set it on the counter and pour water on it.
watch what happens
feel like a retard.
shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:47:41 No.22577879 Report

Quoted By: >>22577899

>>22571158
What pre-existing Ice type pokemon would be able to counter Mega Salamence if Ice resisted these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:49:43 No.22577892 Report

Quoted By: >>22577914

>>22575679
There is literally nothing wrong with buffing Grass defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:50:08 No.22577899 Report

Quoted By: >>22577919

>>22577879
Avalugg might tank his ass. I supposed mamoswine would do him in too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:51:48 No.22577907 Report

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>>22577821
>Electric only Wk is Ground
>Magnet Rise, Air Balloon, Levitate everywhere

Just let them release a Bulky pure Electric Type with this Ability / Move / Free Slot and a recover move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:52:17 No.22577914 Report

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>>22577892
>5 weakness

I wish they didn't heft grass types so much.
It's weak to everything which is why you see poison typing slapped on it for some defensive purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 05:52:51 No.22577919 Report

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>>22577899
>Fire Blast
That said, Mamoswine is probably legit as one of its abilities is Thick Fat to make up for the fire weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 06:33:33 No.22578191 Report

Quoted By: >>22578214 >>22578216

>>22571122
>still trying to push defensive ice types
Ice needs offense
Distribute icicle crash better
Make hail boost ice attacks by 1.5
Buff freeze dry to at least 80 and give it to more ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 06:36:15 No.22578214 Report

Quoted By: >>22578311

>>22578191
Ice getting better offensively doesn't help the actual ice type pokemon. People will just pack an ice type move on their non-ice type pokemon anyway.

I believe that at the moment, Greninja is considered one of the most powerful ice type pokemon to ever exist thanks to Protean giving Greninja some actual resistances.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 06:36:33 No.22578216 Report

Quoted By: >>22578412

>>22571122
>>22578191
>2020-5
>hail still doesnt boost ice type moves or boost ice type pokemon defenses
FUCK GAMEFREAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 06:50:03 No.22578311 Report

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>>22578214
Give icicle crash to more ice types, other types a shit
Buff freeze dry and only give it to ice types
Literally no one will run hail to boost one coverage move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:02:52 No.22578412 Report

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>>22578216
>B-but it raises Blizzard's accuracy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:09:54 No.22578454 Report

Quoted By: >>22578475

>>22577869
I live in iceland.

The water would freeze and turn to ice.

Does it hurt your feelings that your world experience isn't the same one everyone experiences?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:13:46 No.22578467 Report

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>>22577869
I live in wales.

The water would freeze and turn to ice.

Does it hurt your feelings that your world experience isn't the same one everyone experiences?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:15:23 No.22578475 Report

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>>22578454
Blasting ice with water always melts it quickly unless the water itself is already around freezing temperatures. That doesn't jive well with the way most non-ice/water types are themed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:15:56 No.22578482 Report

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It should resist water. Resisting fairy makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 10:11:48 No.22579271 Report

Quoted By:

>>22571122
>Ice resists Ground, Flying, Water

fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 11:35:44 No.22579536 Report

Quoted By:

>>22577717
Look at EQ distribution
Look at their resists (only it self, flying and steel)
Look at their frailty
Ground is immune to it (you know like all the ground types that are infesting OU)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 13:18:29 No.22579872 Report

Quoted By: >>22579993 >>22580002

>>22571122
>Ice resists Fairy
I like it. Obviously needs a lot to be considered but this seems like it could have some promise in being a good idea.

>50% defense boost in hail
No. This would be so broken in so many different ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 13:47:51 No.22579993 Report

Quoted By:

>>22579872
>>22579872
>ABOMASNOW and AURORUS being broken
All those useful physical resistances finally put to use
Also
>what is tyranitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 13:50:27 No.22580002 Report

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>>22579872
Cure your shitlord syndrome.
>Standing for unexplainable resistance.
>Rejecting what was already done on Rock types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:36:25 No.22580276 Report

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Why the fuck would you people rather have ice resist the what, <20 fairy types instead of the ever present earthquake? Like how the fuck will that even help? "Abomasnow walls sylveon now!! Ice is good!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:39:17 No.22580297 Report

Quoted By:

>>22577753
....kid......

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:08:49 No.22580483 Report

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>>22575545
Lol wut. Fairies are damaged by iron, that's why they're weak to steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:31:45 No.22580630 Report

Quoted By:

>>22571130

that is psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:34:02 No.22580639 Report

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>>22575515
It's the temperature that freezes it not the ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:07:40 No.22581257 Report

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>>22575501
If it resists Fire then it should resist ice too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:17:11 No.22581309 Report

Quoted By:

>>22575679
>attempting to reason with grassfags

This is a group who wanted to nerf the ROCK type by giving grass a resistance to it to make their own type a bit better while further nerfing the worst type in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:22:52 No.22581342 Report

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>>22577717
Because most electric types have shit defenses and everyone has at least 1 EQ user on their team. Most electric types are mediocre as well sans thundurus, magnezone, m-manetric, m-ampharos, and rotom(s).

>why isn't Eelektross in ubers no weakness hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:24:13 No.22581354 Report

Quoted By: >>22581396 >>22581403 >>22581406 >>22581427 >>22581478 >>22581519

Rock
Resists Dark
No longer SE against Ice

Ice
Resists Fairy, Water, Electric
Defense boost in Hail
Sp.Defense boost in Tailwind
Ice moves used by Ice types have a 10% chance to Flinch opponents in Hail (stacks with other Flinch multipliers)
Ice moves used by any other type never have a chance to Freeze

Fairy
Weak to Normal
Resisted by Ice
No longer resists Bug
Resists Grass
Grass is immune to it
Recovers twice as much from Moonlight

Ghost
No longer resists Bug
Only immune to Physical Normal and Fighting moves
Moves like HJK and Rapid Spin still have their secondary effect even when used against Ghost types

Fighting
Takes less damage from Weather
Less likely to Flinch from moves

Psychic
Room moves last an extra turn when used by Psychics
Recovers from Confusion twice as fast

Grass
SpD boost in sun
Def boost in rain
Immune to Fairy
Resisted by Fairy

Poison
Toxic only badly poisons if used by Poison types
Poison moves used by Poison types have a chance to turn a foes Poisoned into Badly Poisoned

Dark
Dark types have a natural 5% Evasion boost (this includes can't-miss moves)
Resisted by Rock

Flying
No longer immune to Ground, only grounded moves
SpA increase during Tailwind

Bug
No longer resisted by Ghost, Fairy
Leftovers effect when holding Honey
Mind affecting moves like Taunt last half their amount

Dragon
Immune to Roar

Hows this lot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:31:44 No.22581396 Report

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>>22581354
>Hows this lot?

It's shit,

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:32:48 No.22581403 Report

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>>22581354
I'm down for all of these, honestly.
The one I'm most iffy about is Rock not being SE against Ice anymore.

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy

buttscab !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:33:14 No.22581406 Report

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Why should Ice be better than Fairy? Types aren't supposed to be made equal.

>>22581354
I've always liked the idea of types getting bonuses besides STAB but yours are ehh...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:38:40 No.22581427 Report

Quoted By:

>>22581354
>Rooms last longer when use by Psychics
>Rapid Spin still clears hazards even if used against Ghosts
>All those Ice boosts
>All those Grass boosts
oh god yes
>Dark gets natural evasion boost
hooo shit, would this be OP? There'd be a definite emergence of Double-Team dark types online.
I also like those boosts to Tailwind, makes it feel more like a new Weather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:39:58 No.22581433 Report

Quoted By: >>22581471

grass should resist steel and fighting because nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:49:05 No.22581471 Report

Quoted By:

>>22581433
>Lawnmowers
>Scythes
>Chainsaws
>etc
But a Fighting resist would be a decent boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:50:46 No.22581478 Report

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>>22581354
These would pokemon and the type chart more volatile, but at least more balanced and interesting.
I'm liking most of them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:51:47 No.22581487 Report

Quoted By: >>22581534

>Ice will always resist nothing
>Bug will always be resisted by everything
>tfw your favorite pokemon is shit beyond shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:55:13 No.22581519 Report

Quoted By:

>>22581354
Dark types have a natural 5% Evasion boost (this includes can't-miss moves)

I only want this to happen just to see smogshits reaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 17:57:22 No.22581534 Report

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>>22581487
Bug needs to lose its Ghost and Fairy resists, and resist Fairy.
Then maybe some new weather or type-only bonus like Ghosts being immune to trapping.

Also increasing the shitty base-stats of all those Bug-shitmons would be a huge bonus but will never happen unless its Megas.

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