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Battle Maison ORAS

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:02:09 No.22578407 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22578426 >>22578436 >>22578447 >>22578479 >>22578508 >>22578628 >>22580328 >>22580603

I seriously suck. I cant get more than 6 wins in the super double battles.....does anyone have a good team I could use because I guess my pokes just suck. I have a powersave so I can clone, shiny-fy, and/or slightly modify IVs/EVs for anyone that can help. I really want those damn statues and to beat Wally one last time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:04:40 No.22578426 Report

Quoted By: >>22578438

>>22578407
Are all hackers this fucking shit at battling? I used Tailwind Lumineon and Mamoswine to get my statue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:06:33 No.22578436 Report

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>>22578407
Just use Kanga and roo
They got the jawb done for me

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:06:42 No.22578438 Report

Quoted By: >>22580345

>>22578426
well I just recently bought the powersave, I was shit before.....how do you run your Mamoswine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:07:56 No.22578447 Report

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>>22578407
Can anyone tell me how to git gud for regular double battles? Im only good at singles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:11:10 No.22578458 Report

Quoted By: >>22578469 >>22578486 >>22578511 >>22580266

Not OP or anything but this is my dubs team. r8 h8 masturb8.

I kinda just threw the dragon on but besides that I like the team

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:14:11 No.22578469 Report

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>>22578458
hmmm this team is doable for me, im not too big on breeding and stuff...I just don't have the patience

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:14:21 No.22578470 Report

Quoted By: >>22578484

I used a trick room/heal pulse aromatisse with a nasty plot cofagrigus along with a mawile and amoongus as backup. Got me all the way to 60+ and I'm not even that experienced with double battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:15:32 No.22578479 Report

Quoted By: >>22578489 >>22578619

>>22578407
understand that:
1. The maison is going to automatically field everything your team hates, every fucking match
2. The Maison can not into complicated or unusual strategies

so, make sure to field attacks to counter the obvious threats to your team, and try to use unusual, unexpected or complex combos that kind of require a human to understand

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:16:17 No.22578484 Report

Quoted By: >>22580372

>>22578470
Is it possible to have a full attacking team, that's how I play the story usually, I never really focus on defense or anything. Will the Maison fuck me always unless I change my approach?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:16:35 No.22578486 Report

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>>22578458
Sorry for the noob question but how does damp rock politoed work?

im used to smogonmons like smogbird, smogfrog, etc

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:17:41 No.22578489 Report

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>>22578479
So basically I have to use my brain?....im fucked....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:18:15 No.22578495 Report

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>>22578486
drizzle lasts for 8 turns instead of 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:18:24 No.22578497 Report

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>>22578486
Holy fuck this is the second time someone asked that.

Drizzle god dammit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:20:36 No.22578508 Report

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>>22578407
Look Mr. Ellard, you just need to git gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:20:54 No.22578511 Report

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>>22578458
I really, really, really like this picture. Mind if I save it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:21:58 No.22578519 Report

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>>22578489
you dont have to think that hard, as a for isntance, the Maison seems to get confused as fuck by a Blood Totem Sigilyph (look it up), M-sableye being a tricky fucker, guts/poison heal/facade users and toxic/flame orbs seem to confuse it, shit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:24:00 No.22578527 Report

Quoted By: >>22578535 >>22578539 >>22578558

Zapdos Garchomp discharge + earthquake combo

with mega kang and talonflame in the back.

Theres your doubles trophy for you

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:25:26 No.22578535 Report

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>>22578527
Is Talonflame only good for bravebird? or does it have other uses...ive only seen people just use bravebird and roost...is that how its used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:25:46 No.22578539 Report

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>>22578527
>unironically running disquake
kill yourself

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:29:56 No.22578558 Report

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>>22578527
Also, Is garchomp better than Lando-T?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:33:15 No.22578576 Report

Quoted By: >>22578581

>>22578489
I got over 100 wins with this team.

Greninja life orb timid. Grass knot ice beam, scald mat block

Cloyster adamant focus sash. Rock blast icicle speae shell smash razor shell

Mega kangaskhan jolly. Sucker punch return fake out power up punch.

Togekiss timid choice scarf
Air slash dazzling gleam flamethrower shadow ball.

Its all out attacking. But first u mat block/shell smash then just k0 people

4957-2918-4402 Blake

4957-2918-4402 Blake Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:35:35 No.22578581 Report

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>>22578576
hmmm wow ok thanks, that's actually something I can do

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:42:38 No.22578619 Report

Quoted By: >>22578644 >>22578698

>>22578479
There is a common misperception that opposing teams in the Battle Maison consists of setups that specifically counter what you bring, either from the outset or after "n" number of matches. This is demonstrably false. There is simply a large pool of pre-determined setups that are selected at random when you begin a match, and you are not gauranteed to face a team that you are either strong or weak against. What this means is that you need to diversify your team and be smart about switching out.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:44:22 No.22578628 Report

Quoted By: >>22578653 >>22578693 >>22578740

>>22578407
In singles the heavy lifter of my team was a multiscale Dragonite. I'm pretty sure it runs:
Atk/Spd 252/252 Dragon claw, earthquake, extreme speed and dragon dance. Weakness policy is fun considering the maison will throw tons of super effective attacks at you is he is your lead. With multiscale you can tank the first hit and then sweep easy as long as it's not stab ice. With that said I usually used lum because dragon dance was enouph and I got tired of all the status. The other two were Kang and Greninja but really Dragonite was the team mvp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:46:25 No.22578644 Report

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>>22578619
True I sometimes run into that one hedge trimmer with a mono grass team or something. But besides that it is the same shit over and over again that does take out specific teammates.

Part of why I don't like the Maison much. It has no soul/personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:48:36 No.22578653 Report

Quoted By: >>22578658 >>22578663

>>22578628
Using weakness policy in maison battles makes no sense considering that maintaining it actively drains your BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:49:49 No.22578658 Report

Quoted By: >>22578676

>>22578653
have you even played maison
items aren't permanently used in the battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:50:31 No.22578663 Report

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>>22578653
Do you think before you post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:52:36 No.22578676 Report

Quoted By: >>22578696

>>22578658
I did not actually know this. This will be useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:54:27 No.22578686 Report

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http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/

This should help you get all the other trophies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:55:19 No.22578693 Report

Quoted By: >>22578740 >>22578775

>>22578628
Was your Kanga set the standard Fake Out, Power Up Punch, Sucker Punch, and Return?
What about Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:55:50 No.22578696 Report

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>>22578676
Don't listen to this nig. It eats Weakness Policy.

Happened to me twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 07:56:08 No.22578698 Report

Quoted By: >>22580617

>>22578619
>demonstrably false

bullshit, may I see your quantitative evidence to back up your statement? I would like this demonstrably proven in trial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 08:00:34 No.22578726 Report

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>>22578535
Talon has other shit but you will mostly be using brave bird on it. Sometimes I run choice band on it so it doesn't really need anything much else. Flareblitz and u-turn are ok on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 08:02:32 No.22578740 Report

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>>22578628
Just like when you battle other players your items aren't lost when used in the Battle Maison.

>>22578693
Pretty much but that when I did it in X&Y. Now you have even more options in double edge, drain punch and low kick. You might even want crunch so you don't have to worry about predicting if the computer will attack. My Greninja was pretty standard affair too. Hydro pump, ice beam, grass knot and dark pulse. I recently tried a physical one but I'm not sure it works so well in the Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 08:08:26 No.22578775 Report

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>>22578693
Yeah. You need sucker punch to save u in trick room situations. Greninja and cloyster put in the most work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:26:22 No.22580213 Report

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Not ORAS related but I was just swept by Lando on the 50th Super Singles battle.

I don't have anything to contribute, I just thought I'd share my pain like a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:35:14 No.22580266 Report

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>>22578458
>Damp Rock
>Completely frozen
Why is this allowed?

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:44:30 No.22580328 Report

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>>22578407
An easy way to gey 50 wins in any of the masion is to use M-Khan, I used her for all except trips.

For Singels I used M-khan, Zapdos, Mamoswine.

For doubles I used Discharge Zapdos/Earthquake Mamoswine with Bullet Punch Scizor / M-Khan as backup.

In trips I ran a trick room team, don't really recall which mons I used since it was long time ago, think it was something like, Slowking,Craiadily,Cofigarus (Might've been Dusclops), M-mawile, Crawdaunt, Conkeldurr.

For Rotation I used M-khan, Lum Berry Dragonite, Sash Gengar, Darmanitan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:47:18 No.22580345 Report

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>>22578438
>before

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:51:17 No.22580372 Report

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>>22578484
It is possible. Top IV/EVs helps alot though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 14:57:28 No.22580417 Report

Quoted By: >>22580580

>using ez mode megamom for any format

it's like you suck AND hate fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:23:33 No.22580580 Report

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>>22580417
>maison
>fun
Might as well let them taste their own poison

Fanart Thread

Fanart Thread Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:27:41 No.22580603 Report

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>>22578407

Mat Block Greninja with your choice of fast boosting sweeper is easy mode for Doubles and Triples. Choice Specs/Life Orb/Blasoisinite Water Spout Blastoise is also an option.

Triples is probably the easiest format to git gud in. Singles is hard as fuck, cause you have to counter most of the pokedex with 3 mons.

Fanart Thread

Fanart Thread Mon 19 Jan 2015 15:29:46 No.22580617 Report

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>>22578698

You fuckwad, 3 posts up from you is the Smogon Maison thread. Go read it. There is a list of every single Pokemon used the Maison. movesets, natures, and EVs. You can literally predict exactly what you're facing based off that list, because every mon has 4 variations and that's it.

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