The next tournaments are PRC prereleases (not like we need 'em thanks to Target's boner) and are happening the week after next.
The source of the early PRC scans have been revealed (not surprisingly, it's Target stocking a certain PRC product early) and Pokebeach has scans of the set.
>http://pokebeach.com/2015/01/early-primal-clash-scans-cards-inside-hoenn-regions-collectors-album Reprints in PRC include...
>Escape Rope >EXP Share >Rare Candy >Energy Retrieval >Switch (SR reprint) >Enhanced Hammer (SR reprint) SR Items have returned from the dead! The SRs in PRC are Weakness Policy, Dive Ball, Switch, and Enhanced Hammer.
PTCGO client:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/play-online/download/ The client does not have PRC cards/packs (except for the holo starters included in that weird lunchbox collection). They'll show up on release date or, given the TCGO staff's record, 1-3 days after that.
Decklists from Worlds:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/worlds/2014/decks/popular/ News for TCG:
http://pokebeach.com/ Standard Legal card list:
http://pokegym.net/forums/view.php?pg=stdformat If you want to sell your cards go to eBay or TrollAndToad for prices BEFORE posting anything.
PROTIP: The older and more common your cards are, the less they'll earn in the secondary market. Whether or not they're playable in Modified helps and hinders the price as well.
>TOTT 1: What are you running in your deck, and why isn't it Night March?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22586849 Who's butts are prepared for mega aggrons thick steel rod of 240 damage?
Megaton Slam (M)(M)(C)(C) 120+
You may flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 120 more damage. If tails, this attack does 20 damage to each of your Benched Pokémon. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance to Benched Pokémon.)
Anonymous
What's the price range to buy an EX Power Keepers booster box?
Anonymous
>>22587740 If you cant find it on troll and toad, it probably doesnt exist. they've been out of print for a long time
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>TOTT >What are you running in your deck Seismitoad and Garbodor with Mewtwo EX, Hammer, and LaserBank support. I'm also testing out Pokemon Center Lady and Xerosic techs in it too.
>and why isn't it Night March? Lysandre's Trump Card shits all over it and item-locks are a bitch.
>>22587740 I've seen 'em go for 200-300 bucks on eBay, but
>>22587846 is also right in saying that they're becoming rarer.
Anonymous
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>>22587969 Okay good, I just paid $266.55 for one today, wanted to make sure it wasn't a bad price.
Anonymous
>TOTT 1: What are you running in your deck, and why isn't it Night March?
Anonymous
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so in the PTCG Online client, I traded away a FA Heracross EX for a non-FA Seismitoad EX and now i kinda regret it.
Anonymous
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>>22588406 >round The original Night March
rip in peace
Actually how is Round in Expanded now that it has 4 Rounders with 2 of them being Stage 1 (with Palpitoad being optionally Stage 2), one being basic, and the only required 3-stage doing 50x your number of rounders? Anonymous
>>22588406 >M Manectric EX I just realized i have one of those sitting in my collection. So what's the idea, how does Yvel/Mag supposed to be built?
Anonymous
Which sets are good for beginners? I kinda wanna get Phantom Forces cause M Manetric a best, but I also kinda wanna wait for Primal Clash cause Half Arts and Trainer reprints.
Anonymous
>>22588841 >put energies into grave >Yveltal-EX you should already know how evil ball works >M-Manectric attaches energies from discard directly on to Yveltal-EX >Plus it gets around Yveltal's biggest problem, pyroar >all these energies >al this setup >add babby yveltal to get around safeguard (2KOs suicune and sigilyph with a muscle band just using Oblivion Wing) and Oblivion Wing to attach even more energies to Yveltal-EX >tech in 1x of any double colorless attackers like Mewtwo, Seismitoad, Raichu and such that you wish because even without DCE in hand, M-Manectric can accelerate 2 energies from grave on to them >Add Darkrai for free retreat It's a really neat deck. I personally run 2x Battle Compressors to ensure I get energies into the grave and supporters on call from VS Seeker. Manectric and Darkrai both being weak to Donphan hurt a lot, but that's okay if I can call Lysandre any time I want.
Anonymous
>>22588896 oh my goodness. I do love Yveltal and Darkrai, I might just switch over and do that if it means being able to keep using them in Standard and keeping it viable. I was the guy messing around with Yveltal/Greninja in the TCG Online thread
You wouldn't happen to have a deck list ready to go, would you? or am I gonna have to wing it here, too?
Anonymous
>>22588869 XY base is decent for getting into the physical game. Gives you stuff for some of the most powerful decks in the format and the other two Mega EXes are great collection fodder. Plus uncommon Muscle Bands and actually decent commons like Sycamore, Professor's Letter, Roller Skates, etc.
It's shit on PTCGO though because packs come with energies you get unlimited. If only referring to PTCGO, Primal Clash will be your best bet, especially if you like shiny cards.
Get Phantom Forces only if you think you might want to build either Night March or Metal specifically. I think the latter is sort of expensive and a box won't get you even half the deck assuming you get all the right EXes and SR's.
Anonymous
>>22588934 >Metal hmm? there's a good metal deck out there? I was thinking of blowing money on two of the M Metagross special boxes things since I love the guy
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>>22588934 I see. Well, I'll get XY and go from there. Thanks for the advice.
Anonymous
>>22588916 Skeleton build is something like
>3 Yveltal-EX >1-3 Yveltal (Oblivion Wing) >2 Manectric >2 Mega Manectric >1-2 Darkrai-EX >filler Pokemon of your choosing (You really do have a lot of options, some people were playing like Legendary Treasures Zapdos, I mentioned my Mewtwo/Seismitoad, etc) >6-9 Dark Energies >2-4 Electric Energies >4 DCE >1-2 Professor's Letter >2 Manectric Spirit Link >2 Skyla >1-2 Lysandre >2-3 Energy Switch >2-4 Muscle Band >Staple Trainers as needed Anonymous
>>22588944 HYPER METAL CHAIN LINK NIGGA
>Aegislash don't give a fuck about your rainbows or DCE >Dialga shits all over EXes >implying only Night March uses Battle Compressor >Free Energy up the ass for all the Bronzongs you can set up >Guest Starring Cobalion and such I wish this was a better scan, we got all of the shit here put into Phantom Forces and the deck is fun as hell.
Anonymous
>>22588987 >Aegislash >Dialga Holy shit, I'm so down for this. How does it work, what's the build? Can I fit in Metagross in there?
sorry i keep asking to be spoonfed, but I'm quite retarded to card games, I just want to make the deck and start playing Anonymous
>>22589013 Nah, you're fine, TCG threads are always more fun when there are people interested
> How does it work, what's the build? Battle Compressor Metal Energies for deck thinning. Get a Bronzong or two on bench and go to town because free energies every turn. Almost everything else would be a basic so you just shit out Dialgas, Aegislash, and Cobalion all you want. I personally run Keldeo with Float stone for free rush in and retreat, most people seem to do the same. Plus water>fire since your steels will be weak to fire.
>Can I fit in Metagross in there? It would be sub-optimal since there's no Metagross spirit link, but it could work.
Up to 5 metal energies being attached per turn with 4 Bronzong (that won't ever actually happen, most would be lucky to hit 2) at +10 per metal energy? You hit 180 damage at base with 5 energies on that thing. With just one Bronzong on the bench, you're already attaching two energies per turn, so that 4 colorless cost doesn't even seem that costly for an attack
Besides, it seems like you'd be playing this for fun so you could probably beat the average PTCGO player running a 1-1 or even 2-2 Metagross line.
Anonymous
>>22589099 hmm, I wonder how much it'd cost me to hunt down the cards for this deck. I've already spent plenty on Yveltal, Darkrai, Greninjas and the trainers/supports I've needed to get back up to date
But I guess I'll go look up a build somewhere, does it have an actual name or it's just "metal" ?
>>22588970 Also, hey, thanks man. Will look into it. I never really liked Manectric, but I won't say no to a winner, haha
Anonymous
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>>22589013 metagross could be a bad idea because he don't have the spirit link :c
Anonymous
>>22589137 Phantom Force packs are going down so you might just be able to gamble honestly for the PHF cards you need.
I've seen it go by a few names depending on builds and tech. Bronzong/Aegislash, Bronzong/Dialga, Hyper Metal Chain, just Metal or Steel
Anonymous
>>22589249 In addition to PHF packs going down, the store has a 3-pack PHF blister thing for 570 coins.
That's 30 PHF cards with 3 guaranteed rares/holos, and a shiftry. It's a pretty good value considering what else you have to spend coins on, or the 195 coins for 1 pack/10 cards thing of usual.
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>>22589620 >do this >nothing well I feel dumb
Anonymous
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>>22587740 $200 is a fair price for both parties involved. Would not pay >$250.
I was lucky enough to open one a few months ago and get dat sweet sweet Jolteon star.
Anonymous
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Online game seems really boring when tournaments are down
Anonymous
Hey guys. I don't really come on the tcg threads, but I've been on /vp/ fr a while. Anyway, I wanna give back, so take these tcg online codes
Anonymous
>>22591253 got the first one
thanks a lot, anon
Anonymous
>>22591253 >Constantly checking Pokemon TCG general >Whenever codes get posted I'm always doing something else like watching a movie Fug
Anonymous
>>22591645 Are you looking now?
Anonymous
Do packs have different values on PokemonTCG online?
>>22591657 Yes
Anonymous
>>22591663 think fast
JNL-C37-HJH-WKN Anonymous
>>22591668 >JNL-C37-HJH-WKN Says invalid.;_;
Anonymous
>>22591672 Oh god, sorry
JNL-C37J-HJH-WKN
Anonymous
>>22591687 Thanks man, I was actually thinking about building a metal deck too.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22591707 hey man, i've got a kyurem white i'll trade you for that chandelure, it's great in my celebi night march decks
my username is himan9350
Anonymous
>>22593494 I don't really need a kyurem white, sorry.
Anonymous
>>22595113 i've got a few other ex's, if you want to add me, i have them marked for trade. Also today, i opened a store pack and got a FA darkrai EX, sucks its untradeable
Anonymous
>>22595352 I sent you a friend request
Anonymous
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>>22595414 k, I'm trying to get celebi EX too, if you have one i'll trade a FA blastoise for it
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>yfw when your opponent concedes on their second turn in a TCGO match.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>DEX 's prerelease promo is available as a Mystery Box prize.
Anonymous
>>22595692 So ... were PreRelease cards ever available in TCGO before or not?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22595707 They, along with a few other promos (most noticeably 3-pack blister promos like Plasma Landorus), became available a few weeks after the Bonus Wheel and Mystery Box became things.
This is also the oldest PR promo (when it comes to set relation) on the client, I wonder if older PR promos will be available in the future...
But on the other hand, the older PR promos are just stamped versions of cards in the set (like the XY PR promo Aegislash) so they might not be added to the client.
Anonymous
Like I was saying in the last thread, I bought 150 bucks worth of cards, and only got a FA yveltal, a FA fossil researcher, and a jamming net. Tomorrow i'm gonna sell them and the Megagross set for some things i need, like skylas, two celebi, maybe a mew EX because i forgot to ask if they had any
Anonymous
>>22596006 Having a lot of sucess with night march, and this is all i have, as soon as i get my hands on some celebi EX i'll trade the psy energy for grass, add gourgeist, two chandelures and one litwick
Anonymous
>>22596853 >Darkrai >No Dimension Valley >Only 1 Mew Needs Work/10
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>>22596879 all i have of those cards/10
irl i have an yveltal EX, probably gonna put that in, and darkrai's ability is gr8
Anonymous
>>22596853 -darkrai, dark energies
-Giratina too maybe (swap for outrager Kyurem, Reshiram, or Zekrom, they're cheap)
They add inconsistency. Trade for Korrinas if you can't get Skylas, Korrina is cheap.
+Dimensional Valley
+obviously more mews
Both are pretty cheap. You can probably swap commons for the former and Legendary Treasures mew goes for like 1 pack.
+Mr. Mime
-Max Revive
Max revive just isn't a good card. Revive was neat, but taking away your draw phase next turn to get a Pokemon into your hand is ugly.
+supporters
Add a Xerosic or Az or something to make better use of 4 Compressor/4 VS Seeker. Might even want a second Lysandre for consistency's sake. First might get prized and it's an amazing card for stealing prizes in this deck.
Anonymous
>>22596949 Dont have any valley, and the mountain whatever stops people from killing my joltiks with stuff, will drop darkrai the energies when i get celebi. although, i really like the free retreat, in my real deck i have a few mystery energy ill add, really debating putting my FA yveltal EX, but i think three types of energy is a bit much, so i'll probably sell it.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22596991 >Really debating putting my FA Yveltal EX, but I think three types of energy is a bit much, so I'll probably sell it. I'd recommend it, the only 'mons in Night March aside from Mew EX and the Marchers themselves are usually Energy Evolution Eevee, Plasma Flareon and Plasma Leafeon.
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>>22597020 yeah, I tried the eevee version on tcgone, its pretty meh compared to 160 damage on turn 1 with only a dce on a joltik
Anonymous
I'm a noob in ptcgo and have finally saved up enough points to get a deck. I really want to get the talon flame theme deck but I know yveltl or xerneas are more commonly run. What do?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22597598 Get the Xerneas or, oddly enough, Pangoro deck and grind it on Ranked Theme deck matches for tokens/tickets/packs/cards from the Bonus Wheel and Mystery Box.
Anonymous
>>22597656 Alright. Thanks! When will the next expansion set come again? Sorry, it's been years since I bothered to keep up with Pokemon cards
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22597696 Primal Clash comes out on February 4th physically and to the TCGO 1-2 days after that, but some Targets are selling the packs early in a value product and we're having our first set of prereleases in 3-4 days.
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>look at baby Groudon and baby Kyogre from primal clash >Kyogre does 0 to infinite with its first attack, a single heads guarantees 30 >Groudon does 20 or 40 if heads >Kyogre does 80 and 10 to all opposing benched Pokemon with its second attack >Groudon does 100 and 10 to all your own benched Pokemon
Anonymous
god damn, night march is so good, this is the 8th person who's reacted like that.
Anonymous
>>22600068 I've only gotten 2 people who have reacted that way to my Night March deck. Still pretty hilarious though. One person in particular was playing a Donphan deck and went first playing some Robo Subs to the bench and powering up his Phanpy. I thought to myself that this was going to be a pretty lame battle because I can barely interact with his main pokemon but after I used 3 Battle Compressors he went on a rant about how I should play a deck that actually interacts with the opponent and that I'm pretty much playing against myself then he quit out.
Anonymous
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>>22600125 Night march a best, i haven't even gotten my whole build yet, it's pretty much 4 sycamore, 4 compressor, 4 ultra ball, 12 night marchers, 1 mew, 1 darkrai and the rest is filler
Anonymous
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Just had a relentless game vs a toad deck
Anonymous
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Is Mewtwo-EX still worth it in Yveltal and Friends? It seems like it's never really pulling its weight and Night March and even Dark Corridor are getting too common for it not to be an easy Lysandre target for 2 prizes while Yveltal can handle its job against Garbodor and it just serves as another big basic anywhere else.
Anonymous
What's the best online place to buy singles from in Europe?
Anonymous
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>>22603370 http://www.cardteam.co.uk/ is what google turned up, i checked it out, and it seems pretty good
Anonymous
I was wondering, should I buy a phantom forces booster box just for a night March deck/get manetric ex for my yveltal deck, or should I wait for primal clash? This would be my first booster box ever so I'm kind of insecure about which one to get
Anonymous
>Playing with a Dialga/Bronzong deck >Play against a ton of decks without EX pokemon so I forget my first attack on Dialga-EX does something other than damage >Play against a deck running Lucario-EX >Start panicking a bit because I can't one hit it and he's about to use the attack to draw cards while he's at 2 cards in hand >Then I look at my card and realize I'm fucking retarded >He surrenders after the first Chrono Wind
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>>22604355 Booster Boxes are at their highest value right after launch if you plan on actually opening packs rather than just hoarding it like any of the BW sets now.
I'd get Primal Clash for value if anything. You'll probably get a bunch of half arts which will be overinflated for a bit after launch
Even now the shittiest of the half arts are going for like a dollar each. If you're good about selling your junk and things you don't need, then Primal Clash should work best.
If you don't have any experience yet and really really want to build night march and maybe get a chance for Manectric, I'd honestly probably wait for the prices of Phantom Gate boxes to go down first. I can't seem to find it anywhere for under 90 except a listing on ebay.
Anonymous
>>22604833 >Like Dialga >like a bunch of other metal pokemon >dislike Bronzong What should I include in hyper metal chain deck for sure? if it's a killer deck, I might go for it
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22606458 It's a decent tournament-level deck, but Garbodor shuts it down and Seismitoad EX can be troublesome.
And then there's the issues that Primal Clash brings, most notably Primal Kyogre EX.
Anonymous
>>22606479 is there like a tier list of sorts of the different decks, like in fighting games? I'm not used to tcg's and while I've liked some of the pokemon games, I haven't gotten too far into this tcg
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22606510 That there is, a list used to be managed by SixPrizes but it looks like Pokebeach is doing that now...
Tier 1
>Yveltal EX variants >Virizion EX variants >Donphan PST variants Tier 2
>Seismitoad EX/Garbodor >Aromatisse variants >M Manectric variants >Bronzong variants >Pyroar variants Tier 3
>Plasma variants >Gengar EX variants >Fighting variants (Landorus and Hawlucha) >Night March Anonymous
>>22606571 >Yveltal tier 1 Aw yeah, I wonder which variant is the best, though
Anonymous
Anonymous
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22606598 Well I can tell you right now it's not Yveltal EX/M Manectric EX, that's considered a M Manectric EX variant.
>>22606622 While it's a deck with very high damage output, you have to admit it's fragile as hell and pretty easy to counter (Lysandre's Trump Card).
And besides, tiers usually go what's winning IRL tournaments.
Anonymous
>>22606801 oh I see. What /is/ considered the best yveltal variant, then? or at least, what's your opinion, mate?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22606818 From what I've seen at tournaments Yveltal EX/Garbodor does a lot of damage along with screwing a lot of Ability users.
Anonymous
>>22606984 based binder guy I play aromatisse and generally get fucked by toadhammers how do I win against these?
Anonymous
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>>22606598 I'm running an Yveltal/Toad/Garb thing at the moment, shit's so cash
>>22608734 Avoid rainbow energy, heavy megaphone, possibly even a Leafeon.
Anonymous
What's a good pokemon to stop pyroar? I'd prefer it not to be an EX, because i hate megas. I've tried running garbodor, but it just seems like a dick card
Anonymous
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>>22609812 >What's a good pokemon to stop pyroar? Any pokemon that can evolve and deal damage to kill it.
Anonymous
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>>22586969 >this with trick coind and Mountain ring. Throw in some other mons who are good with mountain ring Oh baby
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>Found one last Hoenn Collector's Album at Target. >Decide to buy because fuck it. Also because of it possibly being the last PRC pack I buy before PRs >Open it. >FA Wailord EX
Anonymous
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>>22606984 Plus standard Yveltal usually doesn't rely on abilities outside of the occasional Darkrai, but if playing pure then there shouldn't be anything worth switching out to besides another Yveltal, so even using AZ (especially with energy retrieval from baby Yveltal) works great.
M-Manectric relies too heavily on combo pieces in the right order in a game where the best hand advantage and draw supporters all require you to discard your hand or shuffle it back into the deck. It unnecessarily causes inconsistency whereas Garbodor can go step 1>2>3 or 1>3>2 (2 being evolving into garbodor and 3 being attaching an tool)
That added consistency mid-late game is just better for a competitive deck than Manectric's only advantage of avoiding bad starts since there's no way to start with only a trubbish
Mega Man Zero is a fun deck but it's pretty easy to see why it's not up to par with other variants
Anonymous
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>Playing a Dialga-EX/Bronzong with Steel Shelter >My opponent keeps trying to Hypnotoxic Laser my Dialga-EX while Steel Shelter is up and he has Virbank City Gym in his deck
Anonymous
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>>22610687 > Target Thats is the problem
Anonymous
>>22588934 Actually, PHF has Sycamore, DCE, Skates, VS Seeker, and other good Trainers. Don't skimp on it if you want some good Pokemon (and every EX is playable)
Anonymous
>>22611847 >Every EX is playable The only exception would be Florges
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22611860 Florges EX is seeing some use in Fairybox, but once M Gardevoir EX is officially released it's going to drop like a lead balloon.
Anonymous
>>22611906 >Florges >Fairy Box instead of a Mono Fairy deck with Virizion tech because fuck you special condition Isn't it sort of a bad idea since you usually don't max out on Bright Garden?
Anonymous
>>22611926 Seeing as how Bright Garden needs 8-9 Fairy Energy to OHKO EXs (8 if you have Muscle Band attached), it is.
But that doesn't mean folks won't use it in the deck.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22611970 And my computer dropped my trip...
Anonymous
>>22611970 >Bright Garden needs 8-9 Fairy Energy What
Anonymous
>>22611970 Bright Garden does 20x the number of Grass and Fairy POKEMON you have in play, not Energy (that'd be M Gardevoir EX's Brilliant Arrow, which is 30x the number of Fairy Energy you have)
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22611993 >>22612002 Whoops, that's what I get for not reading the card properly...
So yeah, I guess running it FairyBox over MonoFairy is a VERY bad idea.
Anonymous
>>22611993 Suppose you had a dual fairy/grass on your side somehow, would they count twice?
Are dual mons even a thing anymore?
AND HOLY FUCK WHEN DID POKEMON EX BECOME BASICS
Anonymous
>>22612042 >AND HOLY FUCK WHEN DID POKEMON EX BECOME BASICS That happened since 2012 Yadon
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22612042 >Suppose you had a dual fairy/grass on your side somehow, would they count twice? I don't know, you'd have to ask a judge or professor.
>Are dual mons even a thing anymore? Not since HS-on's Pokemon Legend.
>AND HOLY FUCK WHEN DID POKEMON EX BECOME BASICS They became a thing in Next Destinies, which was released in 2012.
Anonymous
sooooooooo
Anonymous
>>22612078 >>22612097 Sorry my niggas I stopped playing sometime after EX Aqua Magma and I've only been loosely following events
Guess my Aggron-EX is obsolete as shit now huh? The power creep is real, wonder if Lizard Poison Sceptile would still be seen as good if it got a reprint
Anonymous
>>22612161 Stronger Pokemon that have a setback of giving away 2 prizes when defeated
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>>22612042 No, it wouldn't count twice, as it counts the sum number of fairy and grass Pokemon in play. If the attack were something like "does 30 damage for each fairy in play and 20 for each grass type in play", then it would count twice because it's counting grass and fairy types separately.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22612161 They're basically stronger Pokemon (usually Legendaries and, as of XY, Stage 1 or Evolutions) as Basic Pokemon with the drawback in the form of your opponent being allowed to take two prize cards for knocking an EX out.
But this is technically the second time we had EXs in the card game, Gen III's Pokemon ex were the same thing with the exception that some had to evolve from their Basic or Stage 1 forms.
>>22612291 Pretty much, you wouldn't be allowed to use it in a Sanctioned match.
But if you stopped playing around EX Team Magma VS Team Aqua, then you're thinking of is the Aggron ex from EX Sandstorm (yes, the way "ex" is spelled on a card matters), Aggron-EX refers to the EX we're getting in Primal Clash (which I have a copy of along with its Mega EX).
Anonymous
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>>22612291 Actually I was slightly wrong with the answer, when they re-introduce Pokemon EXs in 2012 all of them were only "Legendary Pokemons" (that were basic only in the first place). However, when Legendary Treasures came out they began to have Pokemon EXs that were supposed to be evolutions (Excadrill and Chandelure) and now any Pokemon can be EXs instead of Legendaries
Anonymous
>>22612291 Actually I was slightly wrong with the answer, when they re-introduce Pokemon EXs in 2012 all of them were only "Legendary Pokemons" (that were basic only in the first place). However, when Legendary Treasures came out they began to have Pokemon EXs that were supposed to be evolutions (Excadrill and Chandelure) and now any Pokemon can be EXs instead of just Legendaries
Anonymous
>>22612161 Back in gen 3, there were a class of Pokemon called "Pokemon ex" that were slightly stronger than normal Pokemon at the cost of giving an extra prize when killed. Gen 5 revived the mechanic as "Pokemon-EX", except now they're all basic and are ridiculously strong compared to non-EX Pokemon.
There are usually a couple of non-EX Pokemon who have a strong presence in the metagame at any given time, but it's 90% EX dominated.
Anonymous
>>22612372 >>22612381 >>22612385 >Aggron ex and Aggron-EX but the old sets used capital EX for the set name
why the fuck would you use the same terminology but have it mean something different that's fucking stupid. i mean i guess i'm glad they brought EX back somehow because i loved that mechanic, gave you a real feeling of having an "ace" which is also why i like Megas in the vidya
but yeah it was sandstorm Aggron, good memory, fuckin loved that card. tanked his shit up with metal energies and wrecked their whole team at once.
Anonymous
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>>22612097 >Not since HS-on's Pokemon Legend. Technically a few Pokemon with abilities since then have had dual types too.
>>22612779 >why the fuck would you use the same terminology but have it mean something different It sort of doesn't actually. Both have basically the same mechanics except that older ex's had to evolve from other Pokemon in some cases, which even kinda continues today with Mega-EXes
Anonymous
>>22612332 >>22612372 >>22612385 interesting...
is there still 3 prizes?
if so, does that mean games can be done in like 5 turns since EX gives away 2?
Anonymous
>>22612821 It's still 6 prizes, but back a few years ago before BW format, you could end games by just turn 2, or even turn 1 with some of the broken nonsense that was out there.
The fastest way to finish a game would be Plasma Lugia turbo though it would be incredibly hard to set up and you'd have to have your opponent playing the worse EXes like Mew and Jirachi with under 130 health. You could knock out for 3 prizes, then knock out turn 2 for all 6, but you'd need to set up 4 energies turn 1 and make it so you go second so you can attack. Shit like that is incredibly specific and impossible to ever pull off, you have a much better chance of just killing your opponent's only Pokemon and them not having anything on the bench for you to win right there.
Anonymous
Does anyone else have this problem where it takes a gorillion years to load any cards?
Anonymous
I really fucking love fairy types and have fun using them, but wanna diversify my deck build. What type should I add in the mix? I was thinking either Steel or Electric
Anonymous
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>>22612915 Fairybox uses a fuckton of different types from Psychic to Grass to Dark. Some even use Steel and Electric.
Anonymous
Who else is hype for Mega Diancie Pack?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22612821 >>22612865 >6 prizes That's true for regular play and tournament play, but you forgot to mention that prereleases have 4-prize card games.
>>22612939 My local Targets have tons of 'em in stock, but I'm not gonna buy 'em because Diancie EX and M Diancie EX are terrible EXs thanks to their low HP.
If I was going to spend $50 on TCG value products, I'd buy the Mega Metagross Premium Collection or an ETB and 2 more packs.
Anonymous
>>22612939 I thought it was already out at target or something
I could've sworn I saw the gallade box and thought Diancie came with that.
I wish it came with a spirit link though. I'd absolutely love to have mega madoka in my pure fairy deck. I need protection and 190 HP would really be nice
Anonymous
>>22612983 >My local Targets have tons of 'em in stock They are already out?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22612994 Some Targets are stocking them and the Gallade boxes early like they did with the Hoenn Collector's album.
The only difference is that no one's buying the boxes and everyone's hunting down the album (usually buying out the store of 'em if they can).
Anonymous
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>>22612939 I'll just wait until Troll and Toad inevitably sell the singles for them just like the Mega Metagross Premium Collection
>>22612994 >Any Year >Expect large chain stores to keep street dates (like what happened to Primal Clash) Shiggy Diggy
Anonymous
>>22612991 It's already out in pretty much every Target, at least in my area.
Still contemplating if I want to make a fairy deck that incorporates Gardevoir's Mega, or a Steel deck that uses Mega Metagross
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22613128 Steel decks are going to drop in use come Primal Clash, so a Fairy deck might be a good investment.
Although in my case, I'm just going to invest in Primal Kyogre EX, VirGen, and change my Seismitoad EX/Garbodor deck into a Yveltal EX/Seismitoad EX/Garbodor deck.
Anonymous
>>22612886 I'm also having that problem of certain cards taking a while to load (although it doesn't sound as severe as what's happening to you). I just got a new computer so I've pretty much ruled out my system as a cause, maybe it's server issues?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22613357 It might be a problem with the program's internal settings. What is everything in the Video section set to?
Anonymous
>>22613405 Performance settings under Video are set to Best Looking, i'll try switching to Fastest.
Anonymous
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>>22613530 Anon who posted the picture here, mine is set to fastest so that's not it if you're having those kinds of loading issues too.
It's only when the card first shows up though, any time after that I can see it fine. So I always just play a test match against an easy computer before I actually use the deck.
Anonymous
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Yep, this
>>22613530 seems to have worked. thanks binder guy, i've never even checked the video options once since i installed the client (new player here).
Anonymous
Should I get Furious Fists or Phantom Forces?
Anonymous
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>>22613657 Donphan uses a lot of fisting.dek's supports and things like FUF Landorus with the occasional build using Lucario and shit for Draw power, or at least a big basic.
Technically pure playability, Phantom Forces gave us a ton of usable cards and two outright decks while FUF gave us like 3 total cards. If there was a booster box tournament or something, PHF could probably win without adding any additional cards besides energies (especially since they have sycamore)
FUF is more playable since it has almost all the pieces to make the best deck in the format, Donphan.
Just add Donphan lines, safeguards, staples and robo substitutes.
Anonymous
Hello, I just bought my first Pokemon card pack in 15 years>Scraggy >Flabebe >Shinx >Luxio >Weavile >Fletchinder >Skrelp >Stunky >Helioptile >Pidgeotto
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22614200 >Did I do good? That pack was a dud, they're only worth it if they have a usable holo rare or a higher rarity card.
Anonymous
Anonymous
I'm seeing x50 primal clash booster codes pre order on eBay for £15 is this worth it?
Anonymous
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>>22615728 Usually booster codes go for something like USD 30c each, some of the shit booster series go for less. Thats a pretty good deal
Anonymous
Is there anything legal with a shred-like attack that isn't a dick taking two different types of energies to set up?
Anonymous
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>>22612939 Me again, I picked up this pack upon going to my local target, hype as fuck to open it and wreck shit with muh Rockfairy
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>22616164 >>22616262 Also putting damage counters instead of damage
But it wont get muscle band effect
Anonymous
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'Sup TCG nerds, have a free Online code:
Anonymous
>>22614208 Binder Guy, do you have a booth at Frank and Sons? Or do you just frequent there often?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22617003 I don't have a booth there, but I usually go there once every month or two.
Whether I go or not depends on if I have the cash for shit, if I have stuff I want to sell, and if a new set has been released by the time I'm planning on going.
Anonymous
>>22617048 Do you have any vendors you prefer to buy/sell from?
I've had a couple bad experiences with some of the vendors trying to give me the lowest of the low when I sell Pokemon cards.
And I don't much care for haggling
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22617068 >Do you have any vendors you prefer to buy/sell from? I've forgotten the name of the vendor, but it's the one nearest the main parking lot exits with the giant YGO cards above their stall. I usually trust them when selling cards at Frank and Son's (I mostly sell my cards on eBay and at league/tournaments).
The same vender has decent prices on singles, but I rarely buy singles.
Anonymous
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>>22617190 thank you very much dude
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
So, im trying out a test virgenectric deck, and it's not really fun, like night march
Anonymous
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>>22617903 >Night March Guy Fuck you son
Anonymous
Can anyone tell me how much staples are in this game? I assume muscle bands and ultra balls are quite a bit, right?
Anonymous
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>>22617963 Bands are $3-4.
Ultra Balls have been reprinted a bunch so they are $0.75.
Look into the Xerneas-Yveltal battle decks as they contain a bunch of staples. Not sure whether buying them separately would be more cost-effective.
Anonymous
>>22617963 N's 5 dollars but can get away with not maxing out on those. Skyla is about 3 dollars but most people seem to only run 2. Colress runs for about 3 dollars, but some decks outright don't use it. Sycamore just got reprinted so it goes for like 75 cents.
I think every other staple is around like 25 cents to a dollar so the price is practically negligible.
Anonymous
Decided to try this and downloaded the client today. Only doing the tutorials so far, but got a free pack or something. Are any of these good?
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22618252 The EX is one of the current best cards, so thats something
Anonymous
>>22618252 That seismitoad is one the best and most annoying cards atm
Anonymous
>>22618265 >>22618266 Aight, going to read about those EX cards. Only played back in the days of the first 3 sets, I think. Thanks!
Anonymous
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>>22618292 Basically
>Basic Pokemon >opponent takes 2 prize cards for them >but they start out usually with stronger attacks, require no setup, and have like 2-3 times the HP of your usual basic Pokemon They're just regular cards outside of that
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22618068 Ns and Skylas are pretty easy to track down, if you find a couple of Red Genesect Collection boxes and buy 'em you've got a RH playset of the following staples...
>N >Professor Juniper >Skyla >Switch >Ultra Ball >>22618292 If you plan on building a deck with Seismitoad EX, I'd recommend the Garbodor or Tasting Slurpuff build.
Anonymous
>>22618334 Not him, but
>2015 >Find a couple of Red Genesect Collection boxes LaughingStoreOwners.gif
Anonymous
>>22618365 I actually found a loose Red Genesect deck the other day in a Walmart value pack thing selling leftover decks. Got that and a Samurott deck for like 10 dollars.
Check flea markets.
>store owners If you absolutely need, Amazon has them for 17 dollars. That's less than you'd pay for N's, Junipers, Skylas, and Ultra balls alone.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22618365 >Going to a big box store or LGS for aTCG product that's a year old. >Not buying it online Hell,
Amazon has 'em in stock right now!
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22618391 I'd be careful in flea markets, I've seen a lot fake cards from 'em and similar places.
Anonymous
alright I'm getting on the night march hype train
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22619036 Mew EX variants fare well but they have to be very carful with Garbodor while Eevee variants can counter Seismitoad and VirGen easily but are difficult to set up properly (even more so if Garbodor shuts down Energy Evolution).
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22619071 >>22619036 Binder guy has a logical argument, but i personally think the mew variants are best, you can always run a mix, like i'm doing online, because i dont have anything else to run. I'm not sure if it's in the standard Mew ex deck, but on TCGO i run a Celebi EX deck, with evolutions and some grass energy, and 200 hp gourgeist is nothing to say no to
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22619118 through trading, i've kinda accumulated 3 heracross EX, are they any good? is there any use for them in night march? I'm thinking maybe running them with Plasma leafeon, celebi and gourgantic gourgeist
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22619118 >Binder Guy has a logical argument, but i personally think the Mew variants are best. Which is why I mentioned that it has an easier time competing in powerhouse-dominated metas over Plasma Eeveelution variants.
>I'm not sure if it's in the standard Mew ex deck, but on TCGO i run a Celebi EX deck, with evolutions and some grass energy, and a 200 hp gourgeist is nothing to say no to. Not really, although that's because you're relying on two abilities (Time Recall and Gourgantic) when Garbodor is a common sight and with Celebi EX being an easy 2 prizes (OKHO'd by a Banded Y Cyclone or, in very rare cases, Night Spear).
>>22619257 >Through trading, I've kinda accumulated 3 Heracross EX, are they any good? Not really, but it and M Heracross EX occasionally see use in some FairyBox builds.
Anonymous
SWE-XFN5-5NM-YYN
Anonymous
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>>22619709 Got shit from it. Thanks anyway though.
Anonymous
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How popular are Primal Kyogre-EX decks going to be?
Anonymous
>Playing Dialga-EX online >Chrono Wind a Seismitoad-EX >It attacks me anyway
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22620260 Report the bug? i'm not sure what happened, was it on the official tcgo? or was it on a fansite
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
so, i traded for two packs, a furious fists and an XY, but it wont let me open them, saying theyre up for trade. I checked the trade tab, and I dont have any active trades. Wat do?
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22621557 K, so I restarted my client, and I can open/trade them now.
Anonymous
>>22619118 > you can always run a mix, Problem with that is you run into severe consistency problems.
In my personal opinion, the list goes
>Night Mew >Eeveelution March >Gourgeist shenanigans (until at least Primal Clash, but even that's iffy since you give up Dimensional Valley) Mew is most consistent and 110 HP is a fuckton better than the 30/60 HP you would be running in pure. You need mutiple lysandre to make sure you can get rid of Garbodor though. The only problem is this deck can lose the prize card race thanks to Mew EXes being easy to kill still.
Eevee is much less consistent but has tons of backup plans for when you fail at Night March itself. Without any EXes though, your opponent takes 6 knockouts to actually win while you only need 3-4 against most decks. Plus you can use silver bangle. Speed is the best argument for this variant
Gourgeist requires like 3 combo pieces(pre-evolution move user up, the gourgeist itself, and a grass energy) is weak enough to Psychic to where it can get KO'd pretty wasily, relies too hard on abilities, but the good news is that it doesn't lose to Pyroar or even Donphan nearly as easily as other variants do. Even beats toad decks that don't run Garbodor. Or you can have 4 Lysandre for garbotoad decks. But that makes it even more inconsistent. It's probably the "best" variant of the deck if you can set up everything, but it's the hardest to set up.
So it boils down to Consistency>Speed>High Potential. In card games, consistency usually wins out if you're playing more than one match, but all the builds have their own styles for whatever suits you.
Anonymous
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22621907 >pewdiepie Literally kill yourself
Anonymous
>Prerelease on Sunday >Card shop is busy with MtG shit so we're having the tournament at a Pizza Hut
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>>22617003 > Frank and Sons I fucking loved that place when I lived in Cali. Goddman am I fucking sad I can't go there and buy up stuff anymore
Anonymous
>>22618365 There's one at a Toys R Us, but just the one. Should I bother picking it up?
Anonymous
>>22622565 >2015 >Buying anything from Toys R Overpriced when they're not on sale. But on a more serious note, if it's over 20-25 bucks I'd only pick it up if you desperately need the Modified-legal cards for deck building or trade fodder.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22622615 And my computer dropped my trip again...
Anonymous
>>22622615 >Modified-legal cards I'm sorry, what? which ones?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22622184 Which State?
And if it makes you feel any better, I have to miss out on one of today's PRs due to a previous obligation (I'm still going to an evening PR today, though).
>>22622540 >I fucking loved that place when I lived in Cali. Agreed. It's a great place, I just wish I didn't have to take public transit to get over there.
>inb4 get a license. Have you seen how people drive in LA? I'd rather be on the viewer's side of a 15 car collision...
>>22622642 I listed the usable Supporters and some Items here (
>>22618334 ), the Red Genesect collection also has Cilan and Tool Scrapper (which aren't legal in the Modified format).
Anonymous
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>playing against M-Charizard EX >kill it >guy rage quits
Anonymous
Anyone want to add me to friends? Looking for practice vs some common meta decks, or someone to make smalltime trades with.
Anonymous
>>22623596 I actually kinda don't know why we don't do this sort of thing more often
I'm SLEaman if anyone wants to add me too I guess
Anonymous
>>22623875 >I actually kinda don't know why we don't do this sort of thing more often Sorry, I don't battle scrubs.
Anonymous
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>>22622683 None I'm in Canada
Anonymous
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>>22623994 >Sorry, I don't battle scrubs. >Sorry, I can't handle making friends Anonymous
>Bunch of people playing Crobat decks online and always flipping heads on Super Scoop Up
Anonymous
>>22620260 I've had tons of bullshit bugs like that happen to me lately.
Get a slurpuff knocked out by charizard EX, opponent takes 6 prizes and wins the game. By far the worst so far.
Anonymous
>>22624809 It just happened to me again. This time I used Chrono Wind on a Malamar-EX and it attacked anyway.
Anonymous
>>22624671 >lost 3 games in a row all to Crobat variants on TCGO >Crobat/Landorus >Crobat/Plasma >Crobat/Gengar I'd rather play against Seismitoad decks again.
Anonymous
Speaking of bugs, could someone tell me if this was working as intended or not.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22624861 report that shit, just go to nintendo support, and explain it. they'll hopefully have it fixed soon
>>22624917 no matter what deck i'm playing, seismitoad just shuts it down. that thing is as bad as n
>>22624923 It's working properly, that's how you stop iron breaker cobalion, or use pokemon like xerneas ex's x blast, you use something to switch, then retreat
Anonymous
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>>22624923 He should since all effects on the Defending Pokemon is removed once it is benched
Anonymous
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>>22624923 Those kinds of effects are negated (unless the text explicitly says that it isn't) if the Active Pokemon is sent to the Bench and returns to the Active position.
Anonymous
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>>22624933 >no matter what deck i'm playing, seismitoad just shuts it down. VirizionGenesect is probably the best counter to Seismitoad, because weekness, Virizion's resistance to water, and Virizions's ability to not be effected by lasers.
Anonymous
>>22624933 >just go to nintendo support That's pretty vague man.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22625094 fuck if i remember the address, just google pokemon tcg support or something
Anonymous
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>>22625101 It seems like other people have already reported the problem. Dialga-EX is pretty much unplayable so I guess I just have to not play until it gets fixed.
Anonymous
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What are some good uses for doubles?
Anonymous
Just bought theme decks and some boosters with a friend of mine. I've always loved the tcg but never really got into it.
Anonymous
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>>22627499 From my experiences, most league-goers tend to have tournament-level decks or are trying to make them.
Anonymous
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>>22627499 I've been playing the TCGO for a few months now and it's really taught me a lot, to the point where I'd feel pretty confident about putting an actual physical deck together.
I'd reccomend you use the TCGO and create a deck there. You'll get an idea of what types of decks your opponents are using and from there you'll have a really good basis for building a physical deck.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
so, it's a common fact that the music in the tcgo client is shit, what do you guys listen to instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUjG9fF3zw >inb4 weeb I know, but it's like crack to me
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22629926 Do people play plasma klinklang in metal decks? it's ability stops all damage to your pokemon by EX pokemon, which seems really good. I'm testing out one rn, and it's made a few people rage
Anonymous
I went to a PR event for primal clash today. Rate my pulls:>full art primal groudon >full art trevenant >wailord ex >m-gardevoir ex >kyogre ex >primal kyogre ex
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22630630 Lucky bastard, i opened 29 packs and only got 3 sellable cards
Anonymous
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>>22630697 I only opened about 20 since i took my little brother and harvested his.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>Got 3-0-0 at today's PR with a shitty deck. Bibarel ! and I don't know if it was intentional or a mistake made by the PTO, but the 6th pack was actually a Primal Clash pack.
Anonymous
so what is the likelihood of Hoopa being printed before Zygarde? and any theories why as to why no Zygarde still?
Anonymous
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>>22631138 >Zygarde That'll happen if Pokemon ZET!!! ever comes out
Anonymous
Need help tuning guys>I need an ace spec >I'd like a fire attacker >not sure if enough Ultra balls >might drop profs letter for a bike
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22631711 well, i personally hate the card escape rope, because I almost always run switch and or lysandre, you can drop those and add more ultra ball, Ltc is always a good idea to run, because i can't tell you how many times i've had scrubs deck out by spamming sycamore and vs seeker. (7 times) to me it seems having mewtwo and yveltal are a bit redundant, but it's up to you. Evo soda is pretty shit, and I rarely run more than two of a stadium, just because they clog up the draw.
>I need an ace spec Computer search if i remember correctly is the most popular card right now, but master ball is always good.
>I'd like a fire attacker There aren't many attacking fire types, but in primal clash, pic related is happening, and it may be worth running one or two. If you do, add a DCE or two, especially if you're keeping mewtwo EX
>might drop profs letter for a bike You could always drop it for a compressor, with vs seeker and mega manec, you can easily get a supporter and some energy onto the field
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22633406 and I forget the pic
Anonymous
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>>22633406 >Evo soda is pretty shit It isn't when your deck revolves around a single Stage 1
>and I rarely run more than two of a stadium, just because they clog up the draw And then get replaced by your opponent running 4x Virbanks. Besides, free retreat in a toolbox deck is something you really really need.
Escape Rope has more antics than switch, especially with free retreats, and even more with Keldeo.
>escape Rope out, choose second >free retreat to the same Pokemon for basically a Lysandre you can still use with any other supporter >or escape Rope and Lysandre out the Pokemon of your choice anyway It has its uses.
>Compressor in fairy Why
You're adding so much unnecessary combo and luck into a thing Xerneas does for free with a single energy. It's even worse since Compressor doesn't do anything to give you immediate advantage and the best use of letter is to get energies when you don't have any, drawing Compressor or even search in it does away with that entirely, especially since mega man needs one of your four rainbows in order to do anything and if you're strapped for energy energy in the first place, you can't accomplish that. It'd be strictly win more here since it's not like dark patch or metal chain where you can get immediate use out of discarded energies. It requires a bunch of set up to even get mega Manectric on the field with the proper energies, and you should always be preparing your deck for the worst case scenario, not the best.
Anonymous
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>>22631711 >I need an ace spec Dowsing Machine
>I'd like a fire attacker Combustion Blast Charizard
Also ...
>Only 2 Aromatisse Up that to 3
Anonymous
>>22633406 You can cause so much havoc with escape ropes as long as you can keep fairy garden up (which is why I run 3 copies)
I run mewtwo because he's Psychic and Yveltal because he's dark, one of my main goals behind this deck is to always be hitting their weaknesses, which is why I'm considering a charizard and possibly a Landrous
Anonymous
>>22633831 Landorus is terrible for both a fairy deck and one focused on hitting weaknesses. 30 with hammerhead only does like 120 max and you need 2 rainbow invested in order to use its second attack, which doesn't even kill fist weak 170 HP Pokemon. If they kill it next turn, you're out 2 rainbows with no way to recover them or search for more. Lucario EX at least lets you draw so if you get killed that turn, you might already have another rainbow and you even lose out on one less fairy
If you're only using mega Manectric for weakness and not energy acceleration or free retreats (you run 3 stadium and 2 Escape ropes anyway) then you could potentially just run Zapdos LTR for less reliance on EXes
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>>22633911 I hadn't put much thought into the landrous as your post made clear to me. Because I'm not running a lot of basic energy one knockout could be pretty disastrous for me so I run the manectrics for energy retrieval/Yveltals/pyroar and low cost attacking. They have free retreat too so seems like an excellent all around card. Baby xerneas gets my early game acceleration going and after a couple of turns I have all my energy on the bench, manectrics saved my ass countless times after losing 4+ fairy energy from a knockout.
Anonymous
Can Ancient Traits be reverse holo? Because if yes, I'm gonna get bunch of Tentacool.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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Well, I'm on my way to my next PR and I'm contemplating skipping out on next week's PR.
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22634354 Yep, I saw non-holo and RH AT Bidoofs and Electrikes at my last PR.
Anonymous
>>22634369 So how do they differentiate between holo rares and reverse holos for things like Swampert and such?
Anonymous
So I have enough points to buy a deck or one of those three pack and promo card things. Should I just save these points for when primal clash releases in ptcgo? I already bought the fairy deck
Anonymous
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>>22635881 If you don't want any of the other decks for their staples or anything then just wait for Primal Clash
Unless you really want to build night March and have absolutely nothing or you have the donphans to build Donphan already and just need commons/uncommons from Phantom Forces/Furious Fists
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>Pulled a FA Groudon EX in my 6 initial packs. >And then the last 2 packs contained a SR Dive Ball. Well, heading out here was worth it!
I won the raffle again, but nothing good was pulled from those packs.
>>22635658 Lord knows, they both look like mirror holos to me...
Anonymous
>>22636709 >They basically have no difference Trying to tell them apart when I open my cases would
not be fun
Speaking of the set, is there any Pokemon that are not EXs could be viable in the meta? inb4 none due to EXs, especially Seismitoad
Anonymous
>>22636806 From primal clash?
Solrock can finally search special energies, for a single colorless, while being a basic. Milotic being a free Dowsing Machine could be really good. Manaphy has potential in a water deck. Excadrill has a fair bit of use being able to accelerate 4 energies in a single turn for a colorless. Put it in fairy box and it can't even get Lysandre's while it has all 4 rainbow energy in play by your second turn.
Aegislash could be potentially decent with no weaknesses on steel decks.
Eelektross energy connect could see some use in a mega Manectric deck variant.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
Seriously, fuck seismitoad. fucking thing just spams quaking punch, and shuts down pretty much every deck. I'm tempted to run one, just to show how fucking annoying they are.
Anonymous
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>>22638573 Get good, fuccboi.
Anonymous
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>>22638573 As a knob who decided to play Seismitoad/Pyroar throughout the CC Season, here's my advice ... deal with it
the card itself would be a lot less cancerous if it costs WC instead of CC Anonymous
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>>22638573 It's why I run Xerosic in every deck and make sure to count DCEs.
In decks like Fairybox and Steel, I always make sure I have a Pokemon that can just stop attacks or anything like that.
Ran Hocus Pinkus Wigglytuff at 1-1 in pure fairy just for shits and giggles.
Anonymous
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>>22636709 I'm the one up above that got the full art primal groudon. We're blood brothers.
got a binder? Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
kek, i just played a guy running a plasma weavile deck, with toad and laser bank. When he realized i was running night march, he started bashing me for playing a "meta deck" and how I was uncreative. I then proceeded to crush his face in even after two ltc, one of which I played just for the keks
Anonymous
>>22639540 Night March guy, I need to ask. How does one beat a night March deck? Do I attack the Mew or the jolt? Do I xerosic the dce? Do I keep the stadium out of play? Do I play Ltc? Aegislash?
I've dabbled with all of the above but I'd like to know how you lose to anything which isn't the toad
Anonymous
My body is so ready for exadrill and M gardevoire in February. Anything else which is mandatory for a fairy box coming up?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
>>22640064 >How does one beat a Night March deck? There are several ways, but the easiest ways are to use Lysandre's Trump Card, blocking Mew EX's Ability, and Item-locking your opponent.
Darkrai EX's Night Spear also helps in KOing benched Joltiks.
Anonymous
>>22640064 As a donphan player I've never had a problem with night march decks. Donphan has a shitload of advantages over night march though.
One hit knockouts, replacement stadiums, wrecking stadiums, substitutes, sigilyph, only ever giving up one prize, etc.
Can't say I've ever had a problem with night march when playing my other decks either. Mew is generally just too frigile and the other pokemon require constant special energy to maintain attacks.
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>>22640098 Excadrill isn't exactly mandatory for fairybox, I just mentioned it in
>>22636901 because it seemed like really fun tech.
Wonder energies are going to be really nice.
Silent Lab could be really neat if you don't run Keldeo and Virizion. Aromatisse is unaffected and most of your main Pokemon like Gardevoir and Xerneas don't have abilities to even be negated. Though you miss out on the free retreat from the other stadium so you would basically only be able to use this for pure fairy, not Fairybox.
>>22640064 It depends on the current game state actually. Midgame when they have at least 9 in grave, you want to be able to use LTC. Later game Night March players can overextend severely easily, so if they have at least 10 or 11 out of 12 night marchers in their grave, focus on killing the ones left so they're out of resources for Mew to Versatile. If they're prize racing with you, they're set up, and LTC is prized or unsearchable or something, aim for Mews and try to beat them at their own game.
If you can pierce, go for the Mr Mime they should be running. If they don't run Mime and you can pierce, then obviously sort of do that.
>>22640143 Donphan isn't too good of an example since Night March is all about using a bunch of basic joltiks and shit to kill EXes and win by getting 3 KOs faster than the opponent can get 6 on Pokemon you're setting up once per turn with DCE for 180-220 damage attacks which are super effective on Mewtwo and Yveltal. Donphan is like the same except making it so the opponent doesn't get any prizes ever. So Night March has an absolutely terrible match up against it. It's meant to go against things like Yveltal and Friends or Fairy Box.
Anonymous
What's your favorite one-of tech that you run in any deck you possibly can?
Binder Guy !!GyXpj9Zujh5
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>>22640770 Xerosic and Pokemon Center have saved the hides of my Seismitoads in some matches, so I suppose they count.
Oh, and the one Mewtwo tech I have for high-energy attackers like Malamar, Lucario EX, and Xerneas EX.
Anonymous
Anonymous
I got my hands on a couple of promo Volcarona cards with the increased burn damage.
Anonymous
>>22641608 Pyrodisorient Ray
Can't remember if it's allowed in standard format
Anonymous
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>>22641815 what series is it from?
Anonymous
>>22641608 Legendary Treasures Moltres and Kyurem White EX are probably going to be your best basic bets. But they both require a ton of energy so you'll probably need to run them with Emboar or something
Anonymous
>>22641608 Plasma storm has a simisear and a heatmor that can both burn for only one fire energy, but they both only have 90 HP in this format so I would advise against it
I really wish we got M Camerupt EX. What's even the point of printing Camerupt EX in Primal Clash now?
Anonymous
>>22641915 Thanks those are some good suggestions. I'm also looking at Entei EX.
Anonymous
>>22641959 Isn't that rotated out? I would've suggested it otherwise since I remember the bitch in trainer challenge who ran it
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>>22641947 I kind of feel like I could do something with Heatmor. There are ways to buff his health. But if I'm gonna add a pokemon with an attack that switches my opponents Pokemon around that will totally change the style of the deck. I'd want to build on that theme of messing with my opponents side of the field with what trainer cards I decide go in.
Anonymous
>>22641984 Is it? damn it. I wish burn was more prevalent in the card game. There really isn't a lot of options.
Anonymous
>>22642004 >all the shit for poison >Trainer that poisons >stadium that poisons >EXes with things like triple poison and abilities that poison for like no cost >you're not even actually guaranteed to do damage with burn >you can't even use trick coin or victini Anonymous
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>>22642534 Sounds like you want Full Flame and Heatran Lv. X back in your life
Anonymous
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>>22642534 Toxicroak with Verbank has been done to death. I just like coming up with new ways to play.
Anonymous
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>>22641608 Chandelure EX (LT). You only need 2 psychic energies with dimension valley in play.
Also, Volcarona isn't legal so you may want to use Entei EX anyways.
Anonymous
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>For unknown reasons, the English version of this card has a matte finish rather than the glossy finish typical of Pokémon-EX cards
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22640064 The things that really stop me are other non-ex decks, but thats because i dont run eevee. another thing that stops nm in its tracks is garbotoad, simply because I rely so much on items and celebi's ability.
>>22640129 I personally run 2 mountain ring, but i'll probably drop them for shrine of memories and pick up mr mime. Lysandres are your best friend when running night march, especially against garbotoxin and other night march.
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>>22643479 Mr mimes are honestly probably better right now since that means you can use dimensional valley
No deck using garbotoxin currently does piercing besides some mega Manectric builds that use Manectric EX as an attacker
Anonymous
>>22640770 So pure, so cheap, so underrated
Anonymous
>>22644955 Pretty much just a shittier computer search.
Anonymous
>>22644979 >shittier >no discard Fuck searching Trainers, I have Skyla for that for less hand deatruction and VS Seeker will get me any supporter I want on command.
You're so fucked when you're in a top decking situation or your opponent N's you down to one and you draw computer search the next turn
Anonymous
>>22645145 Discarding is a good thing in most situations.
Anonymous
>>22645145 Like this guy
>>22645161 said, discarding is a good thing most of the time.
Also, you can Skyla for it meaning you can get it and search anything from a Skyla way before you should be getting N down to one.
Anonymous
>>22645161 >>22645229 How is discarding good in most situations? Aside from maybe shoving energies into the grave to reattach with incredibly specific cards definitely not everyone runs (and people don't run many basic energies in a deck in the first place so even that's iffy that you'd have them in hand) and Night March, what situation is it where you can say "I have less things I can use to beat my opponent now, good"
Things like Sycamore aren't good specifically because they throw away your hand, they're good because they give you a new and bigger one to replace it. But if you hold 2 cards and one is a Lysandre you need to win the game, but you just need to search one last card to steal the KO, you lose going for computer search and discarding the Lysandre
Anonymous
>>22645310 Every single game there are going to be cards in your deck that do not help you win. The idea is to discard those so you never draw them again.
Anonymous
>>22645391 But the problem with that is assuming you'll always have those. Sometimes you'll just have your combo pieces like your Manectric Spirit links, your mega Manectric, your one lightning energy, and then when you don't want to discard any of that because you want to get the mega Manectric on the board, you're actively giving up half the pieces you need just to be able to get that Manectric EX
Pokemon has an unlimited hand size, you can draw into your entire deck and you would still be fine so long as you can draw at the beginning of the next turn, this is the only game where there isn't any reason to actively want to discard, just reasons to want to put things in the discard to act as a second hand basically. Having more things in your hand is called card advantage in any other game, which is regarded as a good thing. It's the same in Pokemon. You can't name a single time where it's a good thing for your opponent to N you to one. So why use up three cards to get one, severely limiting your options? Sure, some decks run an excess or mix things they don't need, but even those run into situations where they clearly run into the things they want in their hand If it's a properly functioning deck.
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>>22645482 Have you never heard of the term "thinning the deck?"
Because it's super important. Especially with N in the format. You get N'd to 1 you sure has hell don't want to be drawing an N of your own. You want to draw whatever is going to give you the best chance to win the game, which is usually another supporter. By all means, keep your stacked hand of useless shit. There is a reason you haven't played it, isn't there? You keep bringing up this hypothetical situation in which your opponent Ns you to 1 and you draw computer search. There are usually around 30-45 WORSE draws in your deck on an N to 1. Consider yourself lucky you got it. But lets think proactively here. How many games are there where you get down to 1 prize and haven't used your ace spec? Not a whole lot. And if you aren't actively thinning your deck, there are usually a dozen (like literally, a whole dozen) cards in your deck you haven't used because they aren't useful, or equally bad in that they don't help you win the game at that point. Many people lose sight of that. You aren't trying to pull off mega sick combos and execute your deck to it's full potential. You're trying to win the game. Sometimes that requires every card in your deck and you cannot afford to discard anything, but much more often you need ONE card that is going to set things into motion.
Anonymous
Any good ways of searching out rainbow energy in a fairy box?
Anonymous
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>>22646805 Can even search basic fairy.
It's higher risk though because
>attach all 4 rainbow to it on your second turn as your entire attack >Yveltal-EX :^) >lose out on all of your rainbows the entire game Anonymous
>>22646872 Suppose you're not forced into attacking twice, so maybe attach 2 to start slowly. Its an interesting card which has really caught my eye, but I think i'll roll with a Solrock instead
Anonymous
>>22646872 This card has caught my eye as well... checkit:
Totally immune to crushing hammer, xerosic, lysandre etc. If you're confident they can't hit the bench then you can load this guy up with rainbows without worrying they'll be knocked off. Could be cool for aromatisee or M-Gardy deck.
Anonymous
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>>22646944 >Suppose you're not forced into attacking twice There's no need for supposing, the card says "may attack twice". Besides, even if you had to attack twice, you could always use Mach Claw for the second attack.
Anonymous
>>22647040 If you want to just fill your deck with even more stage 1's, this is actually a really good card and was even mentioned earlier as a decent fire attacker for the deck to deal with your Steel Weakness and only gives one prize if Red Signal'd or G-Booster'd by VirGen for its 1 Rainbow/2 Fairy 120 attack.
So many stage 1's in the deck is gonna be really annoying to manage though, unless you just want to run 1-1 lines of each.
I really actually hate the prize card system for that fact alone.
Anonymous
>Dialga-EX's Chrono Wind is still broken online so I played my Night March deck >Play against a Seismitoad-EX/Slurpuff deck with Dual-brains Magnezone >He can Lysandre's Trump Card and play any other supporter the same turn
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22648296 sorry man, it's always a shame to see things stop night march. In other news, i finished my actual deck, and went to a casual event today, played about 8ish games, and only lost 2 to a metal deck because of bad starts.
Anonymous
>>22648296 >Toad AND Tasting Slurpuff AND Dual Brains Magnezone That doesn't leave him THAT much bench space if he has 3 Slurpuffs and 1 Magnezone up. Also, does Dual Brains stack?
Anonymous
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>>22648467 >if he has 3 Slurpuffs You can easily just have one or two for continual advantage.
>Also, does Dual Brains stack? Yeah. As in you can play 2 supporters, and then if you get a second one you can proceed to play 2 supporters.
in other words no. Anonymous
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>>22648467 It doesn't really matter how much bench space he has when he can Trump Card pretty much every turn against a Night March deck.
>Also, does Dual Brains stack? Obviously not. It says that you can play two supporters in one turn not that you can play an additional supporter or something.
Anonymous
>>22648362 How does Night March without Mr. Mime or eeveelutions even get a bad start besides not drawing basics?
Anonymous
>>22648522 No Stadium/Supporter/Compressor aka Uber Dead Draw
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22648522 only starting with energy, a pumpkaboo and a gourgiest for one, then continuing to get shit i dont need, like lysandre and xerosic.
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Haven't played in like half a year, what is a decent site for Tier 1-3 decks? How much are TCGO pack codes going for, like $0.30?
Anonymous
>>22648535 But for the sake of a properly built deck, you shouldn't be able to go that many cards without getting at least something
>>22648537 Oh, you're playing the gourgeist Celebi build.
That's pretty easy to figure out then I guess.
Anonymous
>>22648560 >You shouldn't be able to go that many cards without getting at least something Then you haven't played enough Pokemon to go through the suffering of really dead dead draws
>Plays Seismitoad / Pyroar against a friend of mine, who was playing Tasty Toad in Top 8 for CC (and due to the >Lost hilariously badly in Game 1 >He only had 1 Manectric EX in Game 2 the whole game >He dead drew for 8 turns and Junipered 8 to 10 Items after I pulled a Turn 1 Quaking Punch and then I slowly took all the Prizes Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22648560 like it was said really well earlier by i think binder guy, of the 3 night marches, celebi has the most potential, but it's the hardest to set up
Anonymous
>>22648604 I meant in Night March though. Pure or even using Mew EX means you shouldn't be worrying about drawing into evolutions you don't need and you have all the room in the world for things like draw support, searchers (4x Skyla and 4x Korrina for Battle Compressor is more search power than I think any other deck) while any Pokemon you start out with besides Mr. Mime is going to be a night marcher or at least Mew with 110 HP to survive you a turn or two. In that build, your entire deck in total really shouldn't even actually have 7 bad cards to make a hand if properly shuffled, and that's just a how many cards you run/how many cards are actually good for you and accelerate your strategy or search cards to further accelerate your strategy.
Toad's an entirely different case since it's not you who's dead drawing from your deck, it's Toad turning your cards dead. That's sort of his thing, but he said it was against Steel, which at best turns hypnotoxic laser dead and makes DCE not even dead, but just less effective.
>>22648614 I actually made that very post if you're referring to
>>22621860 Anonymous
>>22648665 >4 Skyla and 4 Korrina for Battle Compressor Those two are such terrible ways to use your Supporter for the turn when you basically need to go through the deck as quickly as possible
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>>22648682 >skyla and Korrina outright search battle compressor, your biggest thing for setting up, preventing further dead draws, and was basically printed to use with this deck But you don't want to use your supporter searching it because?
Even as far as earlygame damage acceleration goes, that guarantees you 60 damage. You don't run N because you're trying to win the prize war and that's counter-intuitive, you don't run Colress because that is dumb when you want 9/12 of your total Pokemon in the discard, leaving you with very few options to fill your bench.
Skyla can search Sycamore if you really need it for a new hand next turn, Korrina can search an Ultra ball if you want to drop things out of your hand. A single battle compressor means you're 1/3 of the way to one-shotting all of your Opponent's Pokemon, which is sort of how you win the game.
Remind me again what you're doing that's better than getting closer to winning the game. If we're talking about shitty starts anyway, Sycamore will probably be discarding things like energies or situational trainers you really need, like Lysandre rather than Marchers, and that's not only a card you run 4/60 of, it's searchable with Skyla, which is apparently a terrible way to use your supporter.
Anonymous
Anyone get codes from before?
https://www.professor-oak.com/tcgocodes/ I am skeptical
Anonymous
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>>22649059 Those are even more expensive than just getting them off ebay or something.
Anonymous
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>>22647788 That card I linked is a basic but yeah I get your point
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managed to save up 32 tournament tickets after blowing through all of them last tourney beta
Anonymous
Some theoryshitter thoughts:>Tool Drop playing 4 Electrike for getting 4 tools in play that opponent can't Megaphone away. >Some fighting decks playing 1-2 Rhyperior, each with an exp. share. Early-mid game for the -10 damage ability and late game also as attackers of their own who are powered up mostly using energy saved up thanks to undiscardable exp. share on pokemon immune to lysandre, xerosic and hammers. Will be stronger once laser rotates to make exp. share work more often.
Anonymous
>>22650881 >megaphone My understanding would be that Megaphone has no target, thus the Omega Barrier wouldn't stop it.
Anonymous
>>22651849 This isn't Yugioh, Omega Barrier doesn't stop targeting, just all trainer effects.
The problem is that with 4 Electrike, you lose out on tool drop's whole victory condition in the 4 tool sigilyph, you can't even hit above 160 best case scenario with 4 Electric and a sigilyph wearing a muscle band
Anonymous
>>22652072 Active Muscle band Trubbish +40 (or bangle +50)
4 Electrike +80
Benched Trubbish +20
= 140 (or 150 against EX)
1 Flare tool (or any other tool on opponent's pokemon) +20
= 160 (or 170 against EX)
2 Flare tools (or any other tools on opponent's pokemon) +40
= 180 (or 200 against EX)
It's not ideal, but it's the best way to try to deal with Megaphone + Quaking Punch.
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>>22652297 That 200 should be 190 but whatever.
Anonymous
Swampert is much better in practice than I thought. Just getting one out makes the deck so insanely consistent and fast.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
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>>22652531 I'm thinking of trying a deck with the Alpha swampert, alpha kingdra, and mmanec
Anonymous
Could someone please stop me from buying large quantities of old card sets from soccer moms and dads they put on local second hand sites with no idea what they're worth. I want to sell them, honestly, but I have hoarding issues.
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22652613 Sorry man, that's the curse of collectors, especially for a franchise with the motto 'Gotta catch em all'
anyway, completely untested decklist for my water elec deck, any thoughts?
Pokemon: 18
2 Kyogre EX (prc)
2 Primal Kyogre EX
2 Manectric EX
2 Mega Manectric EX
2 Mudkip (prc)
1 Marshtomp (prc)
2 Swampert (prc 15)
2 Horsea (prc)
1 Seadra (prc)
2 Kingdra (prc 53)
2 Swirlix
2 Slurpuff (prc)
Trainer: 24
4 Rare candy
2 Weakness Policy
2 Teammates
3 Rough seas
1 Archie's Ace in the Hole
2 VS Seeker
2 Battle compressor
3 Professor Sycamore
1 Master Ball
2 Kyogre Spirit Link
2 Manectric Spirit Link
Energy: 14
6 Water
6 Electric
2 DCE
Anonymous
>>22652651 I know but I just want to get of mr bones wild ride.
Deck looks pretty nice, haven't really gotten much into the trainers of the new set yet though.
>archie's Ace in the hole. Fuck that made me kek.
Anyway, the deck might be kinda slow with two megas, you either gonna have to waste turns or waste cards getting those spirit links in time. Or am i missing something?
Night March Guy !jLgQm10tTI
>>22652715 getting alpha swampert on the field will accelerate things so much. it's actual ability, plus tasting gets you literally any card in your deck. so long as there's no garbo, nothing stops you.
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>>22652743 True. Does his ancient trait mean 'add an extra energy card to a pokemon when you add an energy card to swampert' or does it mean you get to play two energies extra to any mon you want?
Do you have something for energy movement?
