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Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:04:09 No.22603728 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22603875 >>22603983 >>22606020 >>22607113 >>22607219

How different would pokemon be if shucke kept its defensive stats but
- Got base 100 HP
- Got Poison Heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:22:38 No.22603875 Report

Quoted By: >>22603932 >>22603974 >>22607194

>>22603728

Still UU or below.

Magic bounce, taunt, and sub exist and Shuckle remains weak to rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:30:57 No.22603932 Report

Quoted By: >>22607158

>>22603875
252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 127-150 (31.4 - 37.1%) -- 51.6% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal

>Still UU or below

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:38:44 No.22603974 Report

Quoted By: >>22607158

>>22603875
bull shit m8 it would be OU atleast, knowing smogon it would probably be ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:40:49 No.22603983 Report

Quoted By: >>22604023 >>22607158

>>22603728
>almost double the bulk
>can double up EVs against one type of attack

are you insane

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:45:49 No.22604023 Report

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>>22603983
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 02:59:11 No.22604114 Report

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Double Team/ Toxic stall anyone?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:10:30 No.22604174 Report

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>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 202-238 (28.6 - 33.8%) -- 0.7% chance to 3HKO
>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle in Sun: 150-177 (37.1 - 43.8%) -- 15.3% chance to 3HKO after Poison Heal
>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle in Sun: 121-144 (29.9 - 35.6%) -- 4.6% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
>252 Atk Life Orb Terrakion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 144-172 (43.1 - 51.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 Atk Life Orb Terrakion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Shuckle: 121-144 (29.9 - 35.6%) -- 3.8% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
>252 Atk Life Orb Terrakion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 99-117 (24.5 - 28.9%) -- possible 6HKO after Poison Heal
Also it can run protect for more poison heal recovery than it appears
There u go OP was it worth it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:16:14 No.22604207 Report

Quoted By: >>22604380 >>22604469 >>22604475

>252+ Atk Pure Power Regigigas Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 260-306 (64.3 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
:^)))))

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:43:44 No.22604380 Report

Quoted By: >>22604475

>>22604207
>regigigas Pure Power
I think you mean slow start

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:53:13 No.22604469 Report

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>>22604207
252+ Atk Pure Power Regigigas Giga Impact vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 120-142 (29.7 - 35.1%) -- 20.4% chance to 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:53:29 No.22604475 Report

Quoted By: >>22604508 >>22607103

>>22604207
>>22604380
What if regigigas and slaking got Defeatist instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:54:56 No.22604488 Report

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-6 0+ Atk Pure Power Regigigas Giga Impact vs. +6 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 6-8 (1.4 - 1.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 03:58:23 No.22604508 Report

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>>22604475
OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 07:25:57 No.22606020 Report

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>>22603728
Spends it's days in AG killing Rayman with cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 11:48:27 No.22607103 Report

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>>22604475
Even slow start would be good on Slaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 11:51:50 No.22607113 Report

Quoted By: >>22607127

>>22603728
What if Shuckle had 255 HP and steel/fairy typing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 11:55:56 No.22607127 Report

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>>22607113
would be in every team until it gets banned to anything goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 12:05:50 No.22607158 Report

Quoted By: >>22607181 >>22610099

>>22603932
>>22603974
>>22603983

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle in Rain: 314-372 (77.7 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Its new bulk effectively gives it sturdy. Which is an ability it already has, meaning it's only slightly better despite twice the bulk.

It'll be almost the same - UU, with gimmick niches in OU and Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 12:11:40 No.22607181 Report

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>>22607158
are you retarded? kyogre is uber so it would never encounter this situation outside ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 12:14:40 No.22607194 Report

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>>22603875
Shuckle does learn Encore and Wrap you know, moves which bypass those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 12:23:04 No.22607219 Report

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>>22603728
>Running Poison Heal over Contrary
>Not wanting to spamm Shell Smash untill your opponent quits

With that 100 base hp this pokemon would become even more annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 12:25:25 No.22607226 Report

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>Mega gengar used perish song

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Anonymous Thu 22 Jan 2015 20:39:42 No.22610099 Report

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>>22607158
>calcs the strongest super effective hit i the game against it
>calls it shit

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