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Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:01:03 No.22644803 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22644829 >>22644835 >>22644837 >>22645000 >>22646046

>2015 CE
>Nintendo releases Contrary Serperior

What kind of moveset do you think he's gonna be running?

Serperior doesn't have a wide selection of moves, so I imagine you're only really gonna be seeing is specially offensive.

Timid Serperior @ Life Orb
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Def/Sp. Def
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain (to heal off Life Orb?)
- HP Fire/Ground
- Dragon Pulse/Glare

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:03:41 No.22644829 Report

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>>22644803
It's not gonna be a thing because Heatran and Skarmory and Ferrothorn.

HP Fire set is the most useful, but HP Ground is good for pairing with Magnezone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:04:04 No.22644835 Report

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>>22644803
Congrats you answered your own question. What the fuck was the point of this thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:04:14 No.22644837 Report

Quoted By: >>22644863

>>22644803
i think subseed + leaf storm is the standard set with hidden power or something for coverage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:04:26 No.22644838 Report

Quoted By: >>22644862 >>22644921 >>22644970 >>22645865

>Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:07:36 No.22644862 Report

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>>22644838
Fug I forgot to include Magnezone in the pic. Whatever, HP Ground is still inferior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:07:40 No.22644863 Report

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>>22644837
I don't think it is standard, but that's what I use. Subseed beats a lot of its counters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:14:56 No.22644921 Report

Quoted By: >>22644947

>>22644838
>fire hits almost twice as much for SE as rock
>rock has more which hits for x4
Your call, /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:18:03 No.22644947 Report

Quoted By: >>22644991

>>22644921
Not true. Anon forgot to mark Ferro as a 4x mon. So they'll hit the same number of 4x mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:22:00 No.22644970 Report

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>>22644838
Thanks for taking the time to make this anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:26:48 No.22644991 Report

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>>22644947
Well shit, I would have said venusaur but then remembered its mega and nobody uses chloro venusaur anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 21:28:07 No.22645000 Report

Quoted By: >>22645332 >>22645652

>>22644803
Doubles.

Timid Serperior @ Expert belt
252 SpA/252 Spd/4 HP
- Protect
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Dragon Pulse

Partnered with

Jolly Alomomola @ Choice Scarf
252 Spd/252 HP/4 Def
- Soak

Have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 22:02:25 No.22645332 Report

Quoted By: >>22645340

>>22645000
Didn't this gen make it so that multi-hit moves like Earthquake do less damage when it hits more Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 22:03:22 No.22645340 Report

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>>22645332
yes but in what way is that related to my post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 22:42:55 No.22645652 Report

Quoted By: >>22645911

>>22645000
why not timid mola?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:01:54 No.22645801 Report

Quoted By: >>22645980 >>22646046

Serperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

This is the only set you should be running. HP fire can be subbed out for another hidden power if you want to catch Heatran by surprise or something, but fire generally gives you the best coverage and hits the most threats. Glare can be used if you have strong answers to steel types (namely, one or more trapper like Dugtrio, Magnezone, or Gothitelle), as paralysis lets Serperior hurt many of its common checks, like Dragonite, Volcarona, Crobat, Noivern, M-Venusaur, and Talonflame. Plus it pairs up nicely with subseed stalling tactics. Leech seed and substitute are irreplaceable, assuming you aren't a dumb cunt that dislikes scouting or being able to kill Chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:10:13 No.22645865 Report

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>>22644838
Some of these things are only checks at best. Gengar, Breloom, and Galvantula can be bulldozed by two leaf storms, and I'm not even sure Breloom can beat Serperior 1v1, nevermind being able to switch in on it.

Also missing some sleeper counters like Noivern and Crobat, who are faster and will put you down in one hit, substitute or no. Also, Chansey WILL push your shit in without leech seed or taunt. Then there's any Pokemon with sap sipper, which will wall you flat out even if you can hit them super-effectively, since they prevent you from boosting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:16:18 No.22645911 Report

Quoted By: >>22645975

>>22645652
75 attack; 40 special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:23:57 No.22645975 Report

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>>22645911
>no attacking moves
Might as well run -Atk and take less damage from Foul Play and Confusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:24:27 No.22645980 Report

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>>22645801
I like

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:31:24 No.22646046 Report

Quoted By: >>22646105

>>22645801
Do you really think >>22644803 isn't a good set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jan 2015 23:37:01 No.22646105 Report

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>>22646046
When I said "this is the only set you should be running" I was venting and thus being unnecessarily dramatic. It's just that I think substitute + leech seed should be the standard, yet I rarely see it used. 4 attacks + life orb is doable, especially as a late-game cleaner. That set also has a means of dealing with Goodra, which my set doesn't. I might drop giga drain for taunt, though, but that's just me.

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