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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 04:42:34 No.22657811 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22657814 >>22657867 >>22657923 >>22657961 >>22658373 >>22658963 >>22658978

>ORAS apologists will defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 04:43:27 No.22657814 Report

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>>22657811

I won't defend it. I just don't care. Neither should you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 04:46:12 No.22657852 Report

Quoted By: >>22657867 >>22658963

Remember this maymay from XY /vp/?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 04:48:06 No.22657867 Report

Quoted By: >>22657934 >>22657940 >>22658018 >>22658304

>>22657811
>>22657852
>remove Battle Frontier
>we get this shit instead

Thanks Meme Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 04:58:50 No.22657923 Report

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>>22657811
Are we complaining about memes or the fact that I've been waiting for weeks to get substitute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:00:36 No.22657934 Report

Quoted By: >>22657982

>>22657867
>Meme Freak
Confirmed new trainer class by next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:01:22 No.22657940 Report

Quoted By: >>22657951

>>22657867
Wasn't this meme shit the translators fault?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:02:48 No.22657951 Report

Quoted By: >>22657979

>>22657940
Most certainly.

Americans are cunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:04:03 No.22657961 Report

Quoted By: >>22658018

>>22657811
>Hey, Billy, check out Omega Ruby! There's a sick meme!
>I'll tell my mom to get Alpha Sapphire and I'll check for more memes!

And GF makes 40 more dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:06:09 No.22657979 Report

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>>22657951
Epic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:06:34 No.22657982 Report

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>>22657934
I see it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:07:04 No.22657986 Report

Quoted By: >>22658018

>We'll target an obscure pop culture driven market by making subtle and obscure pop culture references in our game so that we appear hip and indie to provoke the subliminal ratio of mainstream hipsters to buy into our franchise
>Yeah that'll work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:08:41 No.22657997 Report

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at least pokemon has no good lore/world-building to speak of to ruin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:10:46 No.22658006 Report

Quoted By: >>22658024 >>22658037

>References aren't fun
>Translators have to be super serious about NPC dialog in a children's game

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:13:15 No.22658018 Report

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>>22657986
>>22657867
>>22657961
Why the fuck are you faulting Gamefreak for something the localization team did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:14:02 No.22658024 Report

Quoted By: >>22658051 >>22658054

>>22658006
References are the shittiest kind of humor, and the quickest ones to get old and dated as well.

Someone will play this 5 years from now and will either wonder what the fuck is this shit about or cringe even harder than we do now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:15:22 No.22658037 Report

Quoted By: >>22658580

>>22658006
Pretty much agree with you, at least on the children's game part. It honestly irritates me a lot more in games that otherwise want me to take them seriously.

But honestly, I think references and maymays are a shit way to inject humor into your game because it requires no creativity or thought. One better way I think is something like one of the TES games did. In Morrowind there's a series of religious texts that are largely jumbles of seemingly nonsensical metaphors, but one of them is clearly a jab at technical issues at one of the other games of the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:19:37 No.22658051 Report

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>>22658024
The funny thing is that both the maymays that are posted in this thread are already pretty old. I doubt the majority of Pokemon's target audience knows what over 9000 is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:20:16 No.22658054 Report

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>>22658024
Nah, someone who doesn't get the references is going to pay about as much attention as you do to a random piece of unimportant NPC dialog. They won't even recognize that something was supposed to be a joke/reference there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:22:33 No.22658066 Report

Quoted By: >>22658069

>An Occasional reference is bad
>*Jerks off to cucktin tarantino movies*

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:23:54 No.22658069 Report

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>>22658066
>lol

>>>/out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 05:36:26 No.22658141 Report

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Even if they are tired references, it's nice to see some sort of nod towards the 'older' fans. I mean, I DBZ reference is kinda fitting in the generation the introduced mega evolution.

Masuda

Masuda Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:06:12 No.22658297 Report

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>"target audience" are childs
>make references and hints to grown ups

haha I really don't know what target audience is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:07:53 No.22658304 Report

Quoted By: >>22658312

>>22657867
>remove a thing they never planned on making for it anyway
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:10:17 No.22658312 Report

Quoted By: >>22658319 >>22658330

>>22658304
re·move
rəˈmo͞ov/
verb
1. take (something) away or off from the position occupied.

>Battle Frontier was positioned in Hoenn
>in ORAS it was taken away from Hoenn and thus was taken away from the position occupied

wow, brain power! :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:11:28 No.22658319 Report

Quoted By: >>22658337 >>22658371

>>22658312
ORAS are Ruby and Sapphire remakes, Battle Frontier didn't exist in Ruby or Sapphire :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:15:06 No.22658325 Report

Quoted By: >>22658337

>ORAS apologists

They don't exist. No one defends this clusterfuck of a game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:16:19 No.22658330 Report

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>>22658312

That would make sense if ORAS was an Emerald remake.

It wasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:17:16 No.22658337 Report

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>>22658319
they are also 'hoenn' remakes. battle frontier was in 'hoenn.' it's not in 'hoenn' now. so it's removed ;)

>>22658325
I wish this were true.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:19:44 No.22658350 Report

Quoted By: >>22658378 >>22658387 >>22658411

>>22658330
Can you tell me what region Emerald takes place in? I'll check for you.

Wow, it's Hoenn!

Now, let's see what region ORAS takes place in....wow, golly, it's also Hoenn! So if the Battle Frontier isn't in the place it was originally in Hoenn, that means it was removed from Hoenn! And by extension that means it was removed! More brain power! :D

I'm sorry you ORAS fanboys like to use your
>b-but they're technically not Emerald remakes ;_;
as an excuse, but I'm sorry, it was removed, plain and simple. Deal with it. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:21:35 No.22658360 Report

Quoted By: >>22658364

shitposters shitposting at shitposters

trolls trolling trolls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:22:49 No.22658364 Report

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>>22658360
Just prune the thread and be done with it.

Masuda

Masuda Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:24:53 No.22658371 Report

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>>22658319
ORAS is hoenn in another universe. An universe with megas and the battle maison in every region instead of the battle frontier :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:25:01 No.22658373 Report

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>>22657811
There's nothing to defend and honestly nothing to complain about either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:26:07 No.22658378 Report

Quoted By: >>22658451

>>22658350
Just like the rayquaza plot was "removed" right? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:29:29 No.22658387 Report

Quoted By: >>22658451

>>22658350
>I'm sorry you ORAS fanboys like to use your
>b-but they're technically not Emerald remakes ;_;
>as an excuse, but I'm sorry, it was removed, plain and simple. Deal with it. :)

I'm hardly an "ORAS fanboy." The game has flaws. I just don't whine about every single thing that I find less than perfect. I'm much happier just having fun with the game for what it is. You might want to try that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:35:59 No.22658411 Report

Quoted By: >>22658451 >>22659164

>>22658350
In R/S the Battle Frontier hadn't been finished yet.
I'd rather ORAS had been an Emerald remake but Gamefreak isn't wrong for leaving it out, it just sucks that they did and I'm faulting them for it for gameplay reasons rather than for canonical reasons.
You're just a faggot for crying about canon when the whole time you're actually completely wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:42:00 No.22658451 Report

Quoted By: >>22658477

>>22658378
if you want to consider it like that, sure! but rayquaza's plot removal is more of a sidegrade change than a downgrade change like removing the battle frontier!

>>22658387
>I'm hardly an "ORAS fanboy."
suuuuuure. Whatever you say bro.

>You might want to try that.
LOL, you think I'm trying to find flaws just for the sake of finding flaws? Those flaws are flaws because they are what's preventing me from having fun with the game. I got bored and put it down not even a week after I got it. Meanwhile I played HGSS and BW2 for pretty much until the next games came out. Quite the downgrade in quality from Game Freak. :(

>>22658411
I don't care about canon. It was just removed from Hoenn. And the gameplay did suffer from it, I'm glad we agree on one thing! :)

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 06:47:13 No.22658477 Report

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>>22658451

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 07:13:29 No.22658580 Report

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>>22658037
>otherwise want me to take them seriously
It's fucking Pokemon, not Tolstoy.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 08:28:45 No.22658869 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 08:47:09 No.22658963 Report

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>>22657811
It's not wrong. They're islands, and you aren't allowed to play as Jesus yet. You have to play a flute to summon a magical dragon god to make it go further beyond to fly to Mirage Spots. You can't just walk to them and be done with it.
>>22657852, however, is bullshit through and through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 08:50:57 No.22658978 Report

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>>22657811
Not my fault if your murrica translators pander to the average murrifat person

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 09:01:45 No.22659016 Report

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I like to think that the goon who was hired into the localization team from 4th gen onwards is to blame for the memes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jan 2015 09:44:46 No.22659164 Report

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>>22658411
R/S also didn't have a Battle Maison but a Battle Tower. If they did it for "canonical" reasons they should've put the battle tower in instead of the Maison. The reality, of course, is that they don't give two shits about canon and they just wanted to line their wallets as soon as possible with as little effort as possible.

XY was lackluster, but it laid the foundation for the next batch of games. ORAS didn't take advantage of any of that, though, that's why people are disappointed. I wouldn't say ORAS is "bad", but after playing through it I feel like it hasn't been worth my money.

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