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Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:03:04 No.22739933 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22740189 >>22740247 >>22740278 >>22740300 >>22740599 >>22742094 >>22743409

ITT: Things that went right in ORAS that other games didn't do, barring mega evolutions form changes you like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:15:50 No.22739994 Report

Quoted By: >>22740594

I hate ORAS but if I had to choose something it did right was address the significance of the originals by telling you about other universes. It made the games make more sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:45:10 No.22740189 Report

Quoted By: >>22740221 >>22740236 >>22740291 >>22740713

>>22739933
I honestly don't think anything was changed for the better.
>Rock Smash is a TM again
>Removed Safari zone
>Mirage Islands being a pain in the ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:46:48 No.22740213 Report

Quoted By: >>22740467

All mega stones are obtainable in one game, which is nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:47:40 No.22740221 Report

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>>22740189
HM*
Too late for this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:48:53 No.22740236 Report

Quoted By: >>22740739

>>22740189
>mirage islands being a pain in the ass
as opposed to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:49:55 No.22740247 Report

Quoted By: >>22740317

>>22739933
Despite all the bad things about it, the main story is an absolute BLAST to play. The characters' faces are super expressive and it was a great mix of nostalgia and modernization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:55:53 No.22740278 Report

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>>22739933
I honestly just rushed through the game. I couldn't find much enjoyable except bits of nostalgia and new stuff added.

Same thing when I played XY I found it mostly boring, I mean the features were nice? But the story and gameplay were just bland.

I think I might be growing out of pokemans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:58:33 No.22740291 Report

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>>22740189
>Removed Safari zone

This is a good thing. The old Safari Zone mechanics need to die forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 18:59:23 No.22740300 Report

Quoted By:

>>22739933
>hidden abilities available everywhere
>analog control
>rival has personality and is a qt
>main character has a dad that even helps you out with the eon ticket
>post game lore
>big amount of legendaries post-game for a complete pentagon dex once you trade to x and y
>you can be your own gym leader in your secret base
>nice surf mechanics like going fast with sharpedo and encountering less pokemon when diving with kyogre
>flying in the sky
that's only off the top of my head. feel free to add or expand on this.

on another note, i hate how we only get up to a three star trainer card (not that there are even stars on it anymore). they've even made it easier now with the requirement being seeing all the pokemon in the regional dex instead of catching all the national dex ones. though i guess it's nice since that means you don't need to buy all the games anymore.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:01:19 No.22740317 Report

Quoted By: >>22740645 >>22743420

>>22740247
>the main story is an absolute BLAST to play

It's a blast all right, you easily steamroll though everything until the postgame league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:23:31 No.22740467 Report

Quoted By: >>22740635

>>22740213
Also
Improving overall on the story. The characters feel fleshed out significantly and the villain teams make a bit more sense compared to their previous iterations.

The frame rate drops seem a lot less frequent to me at least then when I played X.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:32:41 No.22740526 Report

Quoted By: >>22740613 >>22740615

Flying to routes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:46:18 No.22740594 Report

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>>22739994
Which means that I can officially say Emerald is canon. In another universe and that's the one I'm sticking with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:47:21 No.22740599 Report

Quoted By:

>>22739933
The secret base overhaul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:50:30 No.22740613 Report

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>>22740526
I did this by accident and was taken aback

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:50:52 No.22740615 Report

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>>22740526
This

And AreaDex. AreaDex was a fucking godsend. It was the first game I played where I caught every Pokemon on a route BEFORE I moved on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:56:22 No.22740635 Report

Quoted By: >>22740676

>>22740467
The villain teams look even more cartoony.
Only Wally/Steven feel flashed out.
What the fuck did you play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 19:57:58 No.22740645 Report

Quoted By: >>22745756

>>22740317
Welcome to Pokemon, where a four year old with no reading comprehension can blitz through any of the games with even the most retarded setups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:01:56 No.22740676 Report

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>>22740635
>the villain teams make a bit more sense
He didn't mean aesthetically. For instance, in Sapphire and Emerald, Team Aqua wanted to flood the world so that people and Pokemon would both be happy. Humans don't have gills. In Alpha Sapphire, he's instead an ultra-environmentalist who wishes to wash everything away so that Pokemon can thrive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:07:03 No.22740713 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740189
>>Removed Safari zone
They removed the mechanics, not the area get it right.
On that note the mechanics were horrible, I'm glad they're gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:09:59 No.22740739 Report

Quoted By: >>22740762

>>22740236
>Those fucking TMs on those islands

Who thought that was a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:12:34 No.22740762 Report

Quoted By: >>22740858

>>22740739
>not having the all
just connect to the internet, geez. i bet you don't even have Cresselia yet.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:12:42 No.22740764 Report

Quoted By: >>22740769 >>22740800

>ORAS actually L I T E R A L L Y kept the THREE (3) water-type HMs from R/S/E
>AND Rock Smash as an HM
>mfw someone tries to tell me ORAS was even good as an update to a shitty gen, let alone a good Pokemon game in its own right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:13:30 No.22740769 Report

Quoted By: >>22740802

>>22740764
Explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:16:47 No.22740800 Report

Quoted By: >>22740821

>>22740764
I still don't get why people find HMs to be a problem now.
I mean, it's not gen 1 anymore.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:16:52 No.22740802 Report

Quoted By: >>22740824 >>22740861

>>22740769
Pokemon games in recent gens have done an excellent job of reducing dependency on HMs for exploration and progression. B/W were the best with this, but even X/Y's slight backstepping kept them far ahead of the shitfest that was R/S/E's three required Water HMs. And now, rather than bringing that terrible set of games into the modern era and trimming down on the fat, ORAS kept all three of them, and gave the middle finger to Rock Smash's former TM status. ORAS is shit, Hoennbaby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:18:43 No.22740821 Report

Quoted By: >>22743135

>>22740800
You're right. Gen 1 only had 3 shitty moves, Surf, and the optional Fly to stick on your team. Gen 3 had 6 shitty moves, including either Surf or Waterfall, depending on what type of attacker your water type was, and the optional Fly. Way to go, ORAS, you're twice as shit as gen 1!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:18:58 No.22740824 Report

Quoted By: >>22740834

>>22740802
It's shit because now you have to teach three Water HMs instead of one or two? Do you have autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:20:31 No.22740834 Report

Quoted By: >>22740841

>>22740824
>I like having two Water types on my team
OR
>I like having a worthless HM whore
OR
>I like having to delicately choose which Water type I'm going to have based on its HM-availability and give it at least two useless moves

Autism. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:21:46 No.22740841 Report

Quoted By: >>22740847 >>22740848

>>22740834
Just get a fucking Sharpedo, you autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:22:17 No.22740847 Report

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>>22740841
Or a Wailmer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:22:28 No.22740848 Report

Quoted By: >>22740854 >>22740866

>>22740841
Surf and Dive are so helpful on Sharpedo! Yay, now I can have a whole ONE non-Water move on a Pokemon with a decent movepool!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:24:08 No.22740854 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740848
You're playing in game, anything that isn't splash is helpful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:24:25 No.22740858 Report

Quoted By: >>22740863

>>22740762
I've owned the game since launch, and I STILL don't have them all.

I connect every chance I get, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:25:26 No.22740861 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740802
B/W was the worst region. It was literally a circle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:25:36 No.22740863 Report

Quoted By: >>22744732

>>22740858
I've played it on and off since launch and I have them all. Clearly you're doing something wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:26:10 No.22740866 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740848
>The games are too easy nowadays!
>I have to sacrifice moveslots for HMs? Bullshit!

At last, we see your final transformation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 20:27:22 No.22740873 Report

Quoted By: >>22741482

Making a previously event exclusive Pokemon available to everyone.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 21:50:00 No.22741482 Report

Quoted By: >>22741551

>>22740873
>Locked content already on the cartridge is good for me and you.
>Blank spots in everyone's pokedex because they had the poor judgement to not be anywhere near an event is a-ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 21:59:46 No.22741551 Report

Quoted By: >>22741612

>>22741482
What are you trying to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 22:07:10 No.22741612 Report

Quoted By: >>22742132

>>22741551
The less event only Pokemon there are, the better the games are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 22:33:00 No.22741845 Report

Quoted By:

Surf mechanics.

That is the only thing I can think of. Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 22:41:58 No.22741949 Report

Quoted By:

Dexnav is nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 22:45:32 No.22741980 Report

Quoted By:

>Eon Flute eliminates the need for one HM

Come on GF, take this idea and run with it, please.

>still can't fast travel without a flying pokemon when you have Eon Flute

who am i kidding

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 22:58:04 No.22742094 Report

Quoted By: >>22743331 >>22748045

>>22739933
>DexNav
>Super Secret Bases
>Soaring (fucking cutscene tho)
>The Battle Resort as an all-in-one thing for Breeding. Maison was pure feces tho.
>Fighting a previously never encouterable legendary (even though they spoiled the entire fucking thing)
>Non-game and non-time slot exclusive Mega Stones
>First time you can get a gf
>Flying to routes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 23:02:13 No.22742132 Report

Quoted By: >>22742204

>>22741612
So ORAS is better than X and Y by merit of that alone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Feb 2015 23:12:28 No.22742204 Report

Quoted By:

>>22742132
If that's the only thing you take into account yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 01:17:54 No.22743135 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740821
Also, Pokémon that know at least one HM cannot be traded while on your party. Like I'd even get stuck if I got rid of some shitty HM slave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 01:48:52 No.22743331 Report

Quoted By:

>>22742094
>First time you can get a gf
the fuck dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 01:56:08 No.22743409 Report

Quoted By:

>>22739933
The 3d models are really well animated and expressive. They're what XY's models should've been like.

Also the story improvements are pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 01:57:15 No.22743420 Report

Quoted By: >>22745756 >>22745911

>>22740317
The difficulty without Exp Share and Amie is pretty much the same in R/S

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 05:30:07 No.22744732 Report

Quoted By:

>>22740863
Or its a thing of chance on which ones you get, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 10:44:43 No.22745756 Report

Quoted By: >>22746696

>>22740645
Not in BW. Idk why but no game since then was that challenging.

>>22743420
Thats not a good thing anon, and most casuals play with the exp share on...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 11:37:54 No.22745911 Report

Quoted By:

>>22743420
He's right. The thing is that we are all 12 years older, so we gut gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 14:25:47 No.22746696 Report

Quoted By: >>22747975

>>22745756
>Thats not a good thing anon, and most casuals play with the exp share on...
And why would you care about what casuals do? They turn it on so they can steamroll it and move on to other games. If you want a challenge, you have to impose limits on yourself like pretty much all other Pokemon games.

ORAS isn't really noticeably easier than any other Pokemon game, it's still the same shitty AI and same shitty teams for your enemies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 17:27:46 No.22747975 Report

Quoted By:

>>22746696
But it is, Gen 6 is noticibly easier than Gen 5 and even Gen 4.

Were suposed to be getting harder challenges, not back to the RBY age of retarded AI.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 17:36:20 No.22748045 Report

Quoted By: >>22748562

>>22742094
>using the battle resort for breeding
>not injecting
>2015

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 18:42:59 No.22748562 Report

Quoted By:

>>22748045
>Stop not cheating! Hacking is the only way to play!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 18:54:57 No.22748669 Report

Quoted By: >>22748675 >>22748692

What we want:
Battle Frontier
Soaring
Secret Bases
Following Pokemon
Better Pokemon interaction overall
Mythical -> Legendary
Mega-Stones are easier to get
DexNav
Character Customization
Shit Safari Zone mechanics removed.

Anything else I'm missing?
I'm probably missing a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 18:55:57 No.22748675 Report

Quoted By: >>22748692

>>22748669
Hard Mode
Better AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 18:58:04 No.22748692 Report

Quoted By: >>22748728

>>22748669
>>22748675
i'd like a Kanto remake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 19:01:45 No.22748728 Report

Quoted By: >>22748780

>>22748692
You mean a Re-remake.
Besides, they'll do Sinnoh remakes more than likely.
But that'll be after they make Z/XY2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Feb 2015 19:06:26 No.22748780 Report

Quoted By:

>>22748728
>20th anniversary
>not Kanto just because it's the first thing they did
It's not that i don't want Sinnoh first, it's that i know that Kanto is probably higher on their priority list

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