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>>22761769
>Give it Quiver Dance.

It can breed with everything that gets Quiver Dance. It gets Earth Power, Dragon Pulse, and Fire Blast. Maybe change its ability from Levitate to Tinted Lens. Not much else it really needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:40:37 No.22763938 Report

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Give Glaceon Fire Blast

Fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:40:50 No.22763939 Report

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>>22763921
Hahah you got me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:42:11 No.22763943 Report

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Huge Power Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:44:31 No.22763949 Report

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>>22763932
It basically becomes Talonflame 2.0. Naturally stronger Brave Bird boosted by Life Orb, meaning it's not choiced and can Roost the recoil damage. Anything after that is just a plus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:45:15 No.22763953 Report

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gardevoir + quiver dance + boomburst

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:45:47 No.22763958 Report

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Banned to Ubers?

>Talonflame learns Superpower
>Kyurem-B learns Icicle Crash and Ice Shard
>Lando-T learns Drill Peck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:46:23 No.22763962 Report

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>>22761791
>make it fairy
>rednecks riot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:48:42 No.22763984 Report

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>>22761769
I'd rather just give Mega Garchomp Sand Rush instead. I'm not sure how much of an improvement that'll be over Sand Force though. If anything buff that ability or weather again. Weather based abilities are worthless now. RIP Mega Steelix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:48:57 No.22763985 Report

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>>22763915
So, Think fat or Slow Start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:49:19 No.22763986 Report

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>>22763936
this, though it'll probably still end up UU, it'll give it quite a unique niche instead of DRAAAGOOOOOOONU DAAAAANCU like most other dragons

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:51:54 No.22764006 Report

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>>22763985
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:52:56 No.22764013 Report

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>>22763917
huh dude

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 08:54:12 No.22764019 Report

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>>22761769
Poliwrath
close combat and put the 20 speed it lose when evolving into attack
Poiltoed
put 20 base into special attack earth power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 12:10:46 No.22764552 Report

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>>22763949
Yes but what the hell can you prove it against if its barred from online and barred from the Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 12:12:19 No.22764557 Report

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>>22763936
A Mega with a boost to Speed, Defense and Sp Att. Ability becomes Simple. Quiver Dance turns into a no drawbacks Geomancy. Ubers

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 12:13:09 No.22764560 Report

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Swap its special defense and speed stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 12:22:46 No.22764586 Report

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>>22764019
Banned from PU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 15:15:27 No.22765279 Report

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>>22761818

How is that bait at all

It would basically then be on par with Dragonite, but with a better typing and worse ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 15:43:11 No.22765414 Report

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>>22764557
Stop. No Mega Flygon. Just fucking stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 15:56:24 No.22765466 Report

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Zapdos gets Hurricane
Snorlax gets Slack Off via Munchlax
Mr. Mime gets Disarming Voice via Mime Jr.
Tornadus gets Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 16:55:10 No.22765805 Report

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>>22763936
Give it Tinted Lens as a alternate standart ability and Sheer Force as a hidden one. Maybe even switch it's attack with its sp. attack since it's movepool seems to be better on the special side. It would also help make it more different from Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:00:44 No.22765830 Report

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>>22763936
Sheer Force as a HA would be better. Almost all of its special moves are affected by SF.

>>22764557
I injected a Simple one with Shift Gear. It rapes if it gets the chance to set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:07:07 No.22765871 Report

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>>22761769
Poliwrath: Drain Punch and Close Combat
Marowak: Bonemerang now can hit flying or levitating foes IF the user is holding the item Thick Club.
Mozart: they get Drought, Drizzle and Snow Warning, and all 3 get Hurricane. Hurricane is 100% accurate in hail too. Hail boosts Ice-types' defense by 50%.
Typhlosion: Earth Power and Scald
Meganium: Flower/Aroma Veil HA
Swampert: Bulk Up
Camerupt: Scald
Flygon: Dragon Dance or Quiver Dance, Tinted Lens HA
Slaking: +0 BST Mega evolution with Anger Point
Empoleon: Competitive HA
Lumineon and Belossom: Quiver Dance
Gallade and Samurott: Sacred Sword. Maybe Fight/Fairy Gallade and part Fight Samurott (and part Dark Emboar)
Ninjask and Accelgor: Water Shuriken
Bronzong: Heal Bell
Rotom: HA is Motor Drive. Fan form gets Hurricane over Air Slash.
Samurott: Defiant HA
Kyurem: Ice Shard, Icicle Crash, Ice/Fire/Thunder Punch, Freeze Dry and Earthquake. Ice Burn and Freeze Shock work like Flying Press (Ice STAB but Fire/Electric effectiveness)
Florges: Grass/Fairy, one of the abilities becomes auto-Grass Terrain. Gets Earth Power.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:10:14 No.22765891 Report

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>>22765871
agreed 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:11:06 No.22765898 Report

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>>22765414
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:11:55 No.22765904 Report

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>>22765871
>typhlosion somehow can shoot water now

how fucking stupid can one get.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:13:48 No.22765911 Report

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>>22765904

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:14:00 No.22765915 Report

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>>22765904
It's partialy based on a volcano. Volcanos generate hot water springs

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:15:59 No.22765925 Report

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>>22765911
so what? geysers have access to water, literally. mix it with volcanic activity, and you get it. Typhlosion being able to use Scald makes just as much sense as it being able to use Hydro Pump. None.

Stop trying to make your favorite shitmon not shit.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:16:34 No.22765926 Report

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>Give fire type a water move
ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:17:46 No.22765928 Report

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>>22765871
I have said just about all of these in the past and I agree with everything you said, 100%.

Also, Accelgor gets Water Shuriken already. And I was suprised when Bronzong didn't have Heal Bell.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:21:48 No.22765943 Report

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>>22765925
>so what? Kettles have access to water, literally. Mix it with fire and you get it.
Emboar being able to use Scald makes just as much sense as you being straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:22:48 No.22765947 Report

Quoted By: >>22766075

Give Serperior, Florges and Delphox moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:34:00 No.22765997 Report

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>>22761769
Ice Burn and Freeze Shock no longer take one turn to charge

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:43:22 No.22766047 Report

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Contrary effects status changes.
>Paralyze doubles speed.
>Burn doubles attack.

With 60s across the board, this would still not make it amazing, but it would be really fun to use.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:46:05 No.22766068 Report

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>>22766047
>Paralyze doubles speed.

Err, I mean quadruples. Though it would still have a chance of being fully paralyzed, and it would still be really frail.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:47:38 No.22766075 Report

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>>22765947
Serperior would be broken with moves.
Florges has all of the moves it needs to be a cleric, which is what it's for.
Delphox already has moves. Giving it more isn't the solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:49:45 No.22766085 Report

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Give Pidgeot Focus Blast, or even Aura Sphere. It just needs something for coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:52:14 No.22766098 Report

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>>22766047
>Flame Orb Malamar

Still NU but I love it

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:52:33 No.22766101 Report

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>>22766075
This >>22766047 would break Serperior.
>Flame Orb Contrary Serperior Facade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 17:53:40 No.22766109 Report

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>>22764552
It did pretty well in the Almost Any Ability meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:01:59 No.22766163 Report

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Give Gorebyss Simple

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:03:13 No.22766176 Report

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Typhlosion- Earth Power
Delphox- Thunderbolt, Focus Blast
Pidgeot- Blizzard
Serperior- Sludge Bomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:13:11 No.22766243 Report

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>>22766101
I don't think you understand how contrary works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:17:52 No.22766258 Report

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>>22766243
The quoted post suggested extending Contrary to reversing the effects of Burn and Paralysis.
Flame Orb Contrary Serperior would have a 199 base Attack if this were the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:19:06 No.22766267 Report

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>>22766243
You should check the post I quoted...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:20:07 No.22766277 Report

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>>22766047
>Toxic eventually fully restores HP each turn

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:23:57 No.22766290 Report

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>>22766277
Oh man, if it reversed the primary effects as well, that would definitely be game-breaking.

Even just the secondary status effects would be a huge change...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:24:11 No.22766291 Report

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>>22766267
Oh I see now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:25:20 No.22766299 Report

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>>22766277
>25% chance to attack twice when Paralyzed

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:26:34 No.22766303 Report

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>>22766299
Oh lord.
>Instant ubersnek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:46:27 No.22766463 Report

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>>22766299
>Serperior's Special Attack sharply rose!
>Serperior's Special Attack sharply rose!

buttscab{ghost} !!IbeodOnDSyU

buttscab{ghost} !!IbeodOnDSyU Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:48:10 No.22766473 Report

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>>22761769
Mmm, Greninja gets Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Sludge Bomb, and Earth Power.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:51:46 No.22766503 Report

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>>22766463
It would also be four times the speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:57:49 No.22766546 Report

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>>22763936
I will never unerstand why its slower than Salamance and Garchomp...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 18:58:49 No.22766554 Report

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>>22766546
because it was designed to be a shitmon

buttscab{ghost} !!IbeodOnDSyU

buttscab{ghost} !!IbeodOnDSyU Mon 09 Feb 2015 19:00:37 No.22766568 Report

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>>22766546
It isn't slower than Salamence.
I agree that it should've been faster though, 110 at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 19:01:12 No.22766570 Report

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>>22765943
According masuda it was based on cauldron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 19:01:49 No.22766577 Report

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>>22763985
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 19:46:18 No.22766938 Report

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Articuno- Give it Magic Guard as it's hidden ability.
Lanturn- Make it learn Wish from breeding with Alomola. It has 125 base HP, good defensive typing, abilities that can heal it, all it needs is recovery and you have an electric Alomola. Would be very annoying.
Tauros- Give him a few more moves to use Sheer Force with. How about Flare Blitz, Play Rough, and Spark? I mean, he already learns Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, so he should be able to use physical fire and lightning type attacks, right? Actually, he can learn Blizzard too, so add Icicle Crash to the list. Here's what kills it, though. Since Tauros is male only, he doesn't get egg moves. They should just say that Tauros and Miltank are the same speciaes, and that male babies that pop out of Miltank are Tauros.

Tauros having such an awesome special movepool and only 40 special attack is bullshit. Raticate is even worse about it. Have you seen his special movepool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 21:50:01 No.22768009 Report

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>>22766473
Give it V-create, Draco Meteor, Close Combat, Roost, Quiver Dance, Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare, Aura Sphere, Volt Tackle and Extreme Speed as well :^)

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:08:29 No.22768189 Report

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Swap special attack and speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:12:09 No.22768218 Report

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>>22766277
>Double battle
>Spinda used Skill Swap!
>Chansey acquired Contrary!
>Chansey's Toxic Orb activated!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:19:12 No.22768269 Report

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>>22765871
>Hail boosts Ice-types' defense by 50%.
This should really happen

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:20:41 No.22768287 Report

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>>22765414
>Implying it's not going to in Gen 7
>Implying next gen won't have Mega Flygon, Mega Dragonite, and Mega Haxorous/Heidregon
Every other Hoenn Dragon's got a mega, and even fucking Galie got a mega, and the fact that tons of people have been complaining about the lack of a mega, GF will more than likely give it one soon

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:24:26 No.22768320 Report

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>>22766570
the design suddenly makes sense to me
thank you anon!

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:25:05 No.22768325 Report

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Move it up a speed tier?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:57:53 No.22768586 Report

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Make its speed when Mega 110.
M-Gallade feels so strong being faster than Gardevoir. It's meant to be a physical version of Gardevoir, why can it move faster?

Give it access to Moonlight.

Make a physical fairy move that uses the S.ATK stat.
Fae Blade.
Give it to Gardevoir.
What makes it different to Psyshock? It's an actual Physical attack, damage is effected by Burn and Reflect but it works off the S.ATK stat instead of ATK.

Why? For more kick ass fan art of Mega Gardevoir wielding a sword like a bad ass dragon slayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 22:58:23 No.22768594 Report

Quoted By: >>22769041

>>22765279
see >>22761818

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 23:03:49 No.22768639 Report

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>>22764019

Give it fucking Drain Punch already.

Then it could be a much better wall.

Or replace Damp with No Guard so it can make use of Hypnosis and Dynamicpunch.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Feb 2015 23:07:04 No.22768667 Report

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Parental Bond
(Anything is better than Pressure and Unnerve)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Feb 2015 00:01:34 No.22769041 Report

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>>22768594

That doesn't answer my question tho

Garchomp is one of the premier victims of the power creep. God tier in DPP OU, where his unique speed tier meant something, but average now that eveyrthing has a mega with a gorillion speed and fairy types shitting all over dragons. Garchomp could be given DD and ES and even then it wouldn't be broken (top tier OU though).

They fucked up big time by slowing his mega down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Feb 2015 00:02:42 No.22769049 Report

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>>22766938

>spark

haha nice meme dude I like it

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