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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:29:03 No.22810698 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22810738 >>22810937 >>22812007

Jolly or Adamant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:29:40 No.22810701 Report

Quoted By: >>22813526

Just inject it :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:30:46 No.22810713 Report

Quoted By:

Jolly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:32:13 No.22810738 Report

Quoted By: >>22810781

>>22810698
Always +speed nature if it has 90 base speed or above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:37:17 No.22810781 Report

Quoted By: >>22810857

>>22810738
don't listen to this guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:39:01 No.22810800 Report

Quoted By: >>22810856 >>22810946

Is there anything relevant that MegaDrill misses out on outspeeding with an Adamant nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:44:56 No.22810856 Report

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>>22810800
A couple of scarf users it can't hurt anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:45:06 No.22810857 Report

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>>22810781
>what is speed tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:53:03 No.22810921 Report

Quoted By: >>22813447

I prefer Adament. Its has a godly speed tier anyway and it can't even hold items to boost it's damage output. Might as well go for maximum power.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:55:11 No.22810937 Report

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>>22810698

Run Adamant, protect on your first turn while you mega-evolve, then proceed to wrek.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 01:56:25 No.22810946 Report

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>>22810800
Assuming enemy is 252+ it outspeeds everything below the line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 04:21:52 No.22812007 Report

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>>22810698
Only thing that you really have to worry about outspeeding it is priority attacks, so full Speed EV investment + neutral ability is fine enough in most cases after using Protect on the turn it mega evolves. Go with Adamant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 06:04:50 No.22812647 Report

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who cares, extreme speed and he is dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 09:14:22 No.22813447 Report

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>>22810921
>mega lopunny
>mega Manectric
>mega Sceptile
>not going fast

God damn it guys, M-Bee beside strongest u-turning is a fucking cleaner in late game, after you deal with priority/scarfers.
jolly is the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 09:42:25 No.22813526 Report

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>>22810701
that didnt even make sense in this case

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:16:37 No.22813688 Report

Quoted By: >>22813781 >>22813798 >>22813821 >>22813844

Easily shittiest mega. Don't use in foremost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:36:15 No.22813781 Report

Quoted By: >>22813798 >>22813818 >>22813821

>>22813688

That's not Steelix, nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:40:34 No.22813798 Report

Quoted By: >>22813818 >>22813821

>>22813688
>>22813781
Banette is still worst. It needs to drop to NU quick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:43:53 No.22813818 Report

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>>22813781
>>22813798
Really? Even worse than Audino?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:44:26 No.22813821 Report

Quoted By: >>22813837 >>22813857

>>22813688
>>22813781
>>22813798
Abomasnow says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:46:29 No.22813837 Report

Quoted By: >>22813857

>>22813821
Glalie says howdy.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:47:33 No.22813844 Report

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>>22813688
>Strongest un-boosted U-Turns in the game
>Godly speed tier allows it to utilize it's "hit and runner" job easily
>B+ rank in OU alongside Sceptile who are both "hit and runner" megas
>Shit
Not all megas are supposed to sweep and take hits. Some megas are designed to serve specific roles. Beedrill is basically a mini Gensect that isn't over centralizing. If want to see a mega thats deadweight and outclassed at what it's supposed to do, look at Steelix and Audino. Using them would make you regret not using Aggron and Chansey/Clefable instead.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:50:02 No.22813857 Report

Quoted By: >>22813866

>>22813837
>>22813821
>RU mons
>worse than the likes of Audino and Steelix
>worse than Banette, who has just been going downhill fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:50:46 No.22813861 Report

Quoted By: >>22813875

>>22813844
I think you could just say 'hits harder and is faster than Mega Lucario' and that'd be enough of a selling point.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:51:50 No.22813866 Report

Quoted By: >>22813919 >>22814021

>>22813857
Never overestimate Ice types. Tiers fall to shit when you are born with the most crippling type in the game.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:52:55 No.22813875 Report

Quoted By: >>22813898

>>22813861
it doesn't though, steel/fighting is way better coverage than poison/bug, and beedrill doesn't boost and lacks priority

I'm not saying it's shit, mind you, but M-luc hits way harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 16:56:21 No.22813898 Report

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>>22813875
An Adaptability boosted
140 Sp Att Aura Sphere does less damage than an Adaptability boosted 150 Att Poison Jab.

Coverage and types and priority and all other factors aside, Beedrill does hit harder. But if you do take said factors into acount, Beedrill can't hold a candle to Lucario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 17:00:26 No.22813919 Report

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>>22813866
They're not the best Megas, sure, but they're not the worst either. Obama and Glalie are around A rank in RU, and Glalitite had to be banned from NU. That's more than Steelix and Audino can say for themselves.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 17:08:52 No.22813979 Report

Quoted By: >>22814051

talonflame says you are my bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 17:15:51 No.22814021 Report

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>>22813866
At least those are designed to utilize the typing offensively. Well maybe not Abomasnow with that atrocious speed tier, but its bulky enough to shrug off neutral hits and nonSTAB fire attacks from weak special attackers(mine survived a Noivern's Flamethower holy shit) and has great mixed offensive presence. Avalugg on the other hand wishes it was a Steel or Fairy type to even have a chance to shine.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 17:21:30 No.22814051 Report

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>>22813979
>Still using Bravest Bird
>2014+1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Feb 2015 17:25:47 No.22814073 Report

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Priority moves wreck it but Adamant

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