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ITT: Megas that should have been normal evolutions

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:41:08 No.22857187 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22857206 >>22857230 >>22858387 >>22858439 >>22858525 >>22858551

>Make them cap out at no more than 555 (arcaine's base stats as the highest non-legendary)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:45:24 No.22857206 Report

Quoted By: >>22857221 >>22857227 >>22857247 >>22857293

>>22857187
>eviolite audino
no thx

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:47:42 No.22857221 Report

Quoted By: >>22858575

>>22857206
Nerf eviolite to 30% defense boosts instead of 50%. though the eviolite isn't the reason it wasn't a regular evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:48:40 No.22857227 Report

Quoted By: >>22857237 >>22857276

>>22857206
Does eviolite audino even get any op, though? Isn't chansey still better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:48:53 No.22857230 Report

Quoted By: >>22857268

>>22857187
Basically just audino and banette, everything else is fine as a mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:49:43 No.22857237 Report

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>>22857227
Nevermind, it is balk as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:51:42 No.22857247 Report

Quoted By: >>22858395

>>22857206
>audino must either be shit or hypothetically OP
We already have eviolite Chansey and Dusclops, and people manage them fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:54:28 No.22857260 Report

Quoted By: >>22857272 >>22857297 >>22858365

Any single-staged and certain two-staged pokemon that got megas should have them removed.

>Pinsir
>Heracross
>Houndoom
>Mawile
>Banette
>Absol
>Sableye
>Audino

These are the pokemon that need their megas removed and be given a permanent evo. Some of the mega designs would work just fine as regular evos and some would need to be re-designed. Also, abilities and stat spreads would be different. Kanghaskhan is the only exception to the single-staged pokemon rule, it really needs a pre-evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:55:40 No.22857268 Report

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>>22857230
Sableye, Manectric, Absol, Altaria, Banette, Houndoom - basically any Mega that is more or less a straight upgrade should be a regular evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:56:26 No.22857272 Report

Quoted By: >>22857280

>>22857260
What about Mawile son?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:56:48 No.22857276 Report

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>>22857227
Comparing the best eviolite abuser isn't exactly a fair comparison, its up there with Porygon2 though
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Audino: 107-126 (26 - 30.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 99-118 (26.4 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:57:17 No.22857280 Report

Quoted By: >>22857282

>>22857272
Shit needs a regular evo then a mega on top of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:57:50 No.22857282 Report

Quoted By: >>22857319

>>22857280
and even then it'll still be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:59:02 No.22857293 Report

Quoted By: >>22858619

>>22857206
>blissey is more used than Chansey thanks to stall being dead from Gengar and Sableye
>there's a total of maybe two other viable eviolite users thanks to knock off's buff and Hyper offense powering through anything that isn't Sableye tier defensive

Giving Audino an actual use when it has fucking 60 base offenses and no access to seismic toss/anything like that wouldn't be nearly as bad as you people are suggesting.

Fucking shuckle can get eviolite at this point and it probably wouldn't be overpowered compared to all the shit smogon had to ban from OU this gen, especially given it has no recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 15:59:39 No.22857297 Report

Quoted By: >>22858300

>>22857260
>Pinsir with lower BST
>Heracross with another ability and lowe BST
>Houndoom with another ability
>Mawile with another ability
>Banette with lower BST
>Absol is fine
>Sableye with lower BST
>Audino with another ability and lower BST

Changes like these make them perfectly fine for regular evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 16:04:23 No.22857319 Report

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>>22857282
Depends on the stats and ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 16:38:33 No.22857546 Report

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would you rather fuck mega audino or normal audino?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 18:48:43 No.22858300 Report

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>>22857297
Why do you get lower BST from?
A lot of normal evo's add over 100 BSTs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:05:38 No.22858365 Report

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>>22857260
>Every pokemon needs a 2 stage evolution before it gets a mega

Here is your reply you uncreative cumstain :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:10:44 No.22858387 Report

Quoted By: >>22858403

>>22857187
Nearly every pokemon that doesn't already have a regular evolution or only have one.

Mega-evolotions make me dread newer games becase I know they'll give megas to those that deserve regular evo's first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:12:17 No.22858395 Report

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>>22857247
Dusclops is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:14:12 No.22858403 Report

Quoted By:

>>22858387
>Mons with megas will never get regular evos now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:20:19 No.22858439 Report

Quoted By:

>>22857187
>Slaking
>legendary
Well he is a gimmick mon so I huess he doesn't count

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:34:38 No.22858525 Report

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>>22857187
>>Make them cap out at no more than 555 (arcaine's base stats as the highest non-legendary)
>forgetting Archeops, Slaking, and literally every pseudo ever
Congratulations, you're an idiot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:39:11 No.22858551 Report

Quoted By: >>22858582

>>22857187
It's not because the evolution that people want, it's the Wish Passing Regenerator Audino. I know that it sucks we didn't get it so it can sit in an OU stall team with other favorites but even Game Freak knows that full support Megas don't work and I doubt we'll ever see another one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:44:28 No.22858575 Report

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>>22857221

>nerf eviolite for everyone else because it's retarded on one (hypothetical) pokemon

you're like the retards who want to nerf ALL priority because gale wings is broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:45:49 No.22858582 Report

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>>22858551

Healer just needs to work on the user as well. Maybe increase its proc chance.

Now megaudino is a stronger cresselia in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2015 19:49:15 No.22858619 Report

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>>22857293
252+ SpA Choice Specs Deoxys-A Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Shuckle in Sand: 84-99 (34.4 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Deoxys-A Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 225-265 (31.9 - 37.6%) -- 91.7% chance to 3HKO

Basically a balanced chansey?

Give it pain split and we're in business.

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