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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:18:37 No.22862512 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22862536 >>22862570 >>22862578 >>22862770 >>22863995

>Make one change to improve the shitty defenses of psychic, ice, grass, and bug

Psychics: immune to confusion & resist fairy
Ice: resist flying
grass: resist rock
Bug: immune to taunt and torment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:23:27 No.22862536 Report

Quoted By: >>22862564

>>22862512
I agree but Psychic doesnt resist fairy, Ice also resists ground, and the bug stuff, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:27:38 No.22862564 Report

Quoted By: >>22862569 >>22862589 >>22862786

>>22862536
Psyching resisting fairy would be a fucking huge boost for Mega Garde. Please no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:28:56 No.22862569 Report

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>>22862564
Didn't meant to quote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:29:13 No.22862570 Report

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>>22862512
Ice should resist Dragon and Ground. I don't know about flying, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:30:26 No.22862578 Report

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>>22862512
Ice should resist ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:32:16 No.22862589 Report

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>>22862564
Now that I think of it. I guess it would make sense
Mind over Fairy tales or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:35:33 No.22862607 Report

Quoted By: >>22862706

>dragon now super effective against fairy, but retains it's weakness

The good guys don't always win in fairytales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 06:59:13 No.22862706 Report

Quoted By: >>22862929

>>22862607
No, that's stupid. One of the main reasons Fairy's addition is good is because it stops retarded Outrage spam. And with that change Dragon goes back to having only one fucking resist and being the best neutral STAB option out of anything else in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:16:12 No.22862770 Report

Quoted By: >>22862951 >>22863214

>>22862512
>>Make one change to improve the shitty defenses of psychic, ice, grass, and bug
>grass
>shitty defenses
From a defensive standpoint, Grass is fine. At the very least, it's certainly better off on that end than Rock.
>better resists by far
>less painful weaknesses by far
>practically guaranteed access to multiple forms of recovery Leech Seed, Synthesis, Giga Drain
>actually does well when paired with Steel
Seriously, any type that can't be saved with a Steel subtyping needs a fuckton of help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:19:25 No.22862786 Report

Quoted By: >>22862853

>>22862564

I mean other than malamar, gallade, garde, and Hoopa, and the eon dou (most of which aren't suffering) It'd really help the lesser psychics who don't have the abilities or stats to compete because of their weak defense game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:33:05 No.22862853 Report

Quoted By: >>22862868 >>22862877 >>22863082

>>22862786
>It'd really help the lesser psychics who don't have the abilities or stats to compete because of their weak defense game
Isn't that the very definition of a shitmon? How many Pokemon can get around shitty stats and abilities on their typing alone? Look, the issue isn't with the type itself, it's with your bro or sis that just isn't good enough to make it big.

There is a Grass/Psychic-type seven total weaknesses that made OU as a utility Pokemon with a preference for defensive play. I'm sorry that your favorite Psychic or Grass-type will never be good unless they get Megas or something, of course but that's their problem. The types themselves are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:34:22 No.22862859 Report

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Psychic should resist Poison, it's already SE against it. Moreover, Psychic and Ghost ought to be SE against each other. The reason being, psychics commune with ghosts, and often times expel ghosts.

Ice should resist and be SE against water

Grass for whatever reason is now magically SE against electric

Bug types have a 5% accuracy boost

But honestly, a lot of these types would be fixed, if they had better pokemon. They're either too frail, slow, or weak; most of the time they're all three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:36:28 No.22862868 Report

Quoted By: >>22862916

>>22862853
/Thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:38:03 No.22862877 Report

Quoted By: >>22862916

>>22862853
>How many Pokemon can get around shitty stats and abilities on their typing alone?
Ghost/Fairy Mismagius

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:46:06 No.22862916 Report

Quoted By: >>22862961

>>22862868
I'd like to point out that Ice still needs some help as a type. I sorta want to say the same about Rock, but I admit that I'm biased and that what I really want is a good Rock STAB that doesn't force them to rely on their shitty defensive typing 20% of the time.
>>22862877
Firstly, Levitate is a damn fine ability, especially on something that doesn't resist Ground.
Secondly, that doesn't even exist.

Seriously though, Ground is fucking terrifying. I dread the day when Game Freak buffs Gravity or Gravity-like effects to the point of being viable in 6v6 single battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:49:11 No.22862929 Report

Quoted By: >>22862999

>>22862706
>only has weaknesses

Nope. Still shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:53:25 No.22862951 Report

Quoted By: >>22862999

>>22862770
>flying and fire
>not horrifically bad weaknesses to have

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 07:56:33 No.22862961 Report

Quoted By: >>22862999

>>22862916
Levitate is a shitty abillity compared to lots of OU abillities, like Technician, Magic Guard or even Natural Cure.

Smogon did a theorymon project with Fairy/Ghost ghost waifu, Fairy Type alone is enough to send Mismagius from a NU shitmon to a S-tier OU mon

Fairy alone was enough to boost tons of Pokemon out of shittier tiers, because it's a fundamentally broken type that carries shitmons to victory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:06:30 No.22862999 Report

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>>22862929
Except that's a terrible idea. Fuck, make Dragon Super-Effective on Normal because Dragons murderrape the fuck out of normal people in stories if you really need to hear that SE noise, the Dragon immunity is basically the entire reason why Fairy exists in the first place.
>>22862951
>Ground
>Fighting
>Water
>all dem Steel-types
>Grass it's more troublesome than lelBug and kekPoison.
I didn't say that Grass lacked painful weaknesses. It's just much, much, much better off than Rock.
>>22862961
A free immunity is always a wonderful thing. Hell, Levitate is the most common ability among OU Pokemon. And I'm aware of the theorymon thing, adding Fairy is up there with slapping Huge Power on everything on the buff-a-shitmon scale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:27:15 No.22863082 Report

Quoted By: >>22863088 >>22863127

>>22862853
Clefable was RU in gen 5 and it rose solely due to fairy typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:29:20 No.22863088 Report

Quoted By: >>22863109

>>22863082
Clefable also has Magic Guard and Unaware, two of the best abilities in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:34:07 No.22863109 Report

Quoted By: >>22863136

>>22863088
It had those same abilities when it was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:37:29 No.22863127 Report

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>>22863082
It was normal type before which is garbage. Aurorus is another thing that's decent in several places but its typing utterly ruins it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:39:21 No.22863136 Report

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>>22863109
Yes, but I asked about Pokemon with shitty stats AND shitty abilities that are still good because of their typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:41:39 No.22863147 Report

Quoted By: >>22863295

Psychic is a mediocre typing saturated with great pokemon, it doesn't need any buffs. Grass, too, to a lesser extent; it just doesn't have many things that can make use of the typing.

Ice should resist Flying and Ground.

Bug shouldn't be resisted by half of everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:52:04 No.22863214 Report

Quoted By: >>22863237

>>22862770
ice is arguably worse with steel, all it gains is rock neutrality at the cost of two incredibly common 4x weaknesses and ground weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 08:57:26 No.22863237 Report

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>>22863214
Exactly, Ice/Steel and Rock/Steel are both awful type combinations due to the dubble dubble weaknesses to incredibly common types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 09:12:16 No.22863295 Report

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>>22863147
I like Ground and Ice being super effective against each other. Flying I agree with. It should also resist Fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 09:32:01 No.22863373 Report

Quoted By: >>22863377

Psychic resists fairy and poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 09:33:01 No.22863377 Report

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>>22863373
and is SE against ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 13:08:42 No.22863995 Report

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>>22862512
>Immune to Confusion

This is interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2015 17:59:35 No.22865343 Report

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Psychic is super effective and resists fairy
Ice resists dragon, ice, and ground.
Grass resists fairy and Rock and is now lower resisted by flying
Bug now resists fairy

There, bad types fixed, Fairy nerfed

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