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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 01:05:16 No.22896395 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22896414 >>22896420 >>22896428 >>22897371 >>22897420 >>22897437 >>22897502 >>22897562 >>22898409 >>22900725 >>22902720

>B rank in UU
it hurts to live bros

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 01:07:29 No.22896414 Report

Quoted By: >>22897548 >>22898709 >>22900042 >>22901301

>>22896395
To make Nidoking better it just needs more physical moves that it can abuse with Sheer Force.
Mechamp- well, Conk outperforms it along with other problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 01:07:58 No.22896420 Report

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>>22896395
>Darmanitan
>B rank

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 01:09:43 No.22896428 Report

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>>22896395
R.I.P. the champ and the king

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:01:55 No.22897353 Report

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>tfw you may never see them in ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:03:52 No.22897369 Report

Quoted By: >>22898370

>Granbull
>UU

oh shit nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:04:06 No.22897371 Report

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>>22896395
None of those are a bad thing though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:04:59 No.22897380 Report

Quoted By: >>22897409

>it hurts to live bros
>smogon
>relevant
>implying champ and king are cannot be useful in vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:05:41 No.22897384 Report

Quoted By: >>22897408

>B rank in UU
That's far from a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:08:19 No.22897408 Report

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>>22897384
Every other significant fighting type are ranked above or are in OU or ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:08:21 No.22897409 Report

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>>22897380
Nidkoing is fucking useless in VGC considering Lando outclasses it in every fucking way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:10:16 No.22897420 Report

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>>22896395
Maybe if Machamp wasn't weak to Honchkrow, you're shitty pokémon would be considered decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:12:38 No.22897437 Report

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>>22896395
Where do i see this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:16:21 No.22897457 Report

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>>22897409
Sheer force life orb with king's large special movepool is totally different than lando. Scarf isn't bad either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:20:20 No.22897481 Report

Quoted By: >>22897906 >>22898816

>>22897437
Ubers:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-ubers-viability-ranking-thread.3523419/
OverUsed:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-ou-viability-ranking-thread-v2-check-post-1591.3526596/
UnderUsed:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-uu-viability-ranking-thread.3523649/
RarelyUsed:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ru-viability-ranking-oras-edition.3523627/
NeverUsed:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-nu-viability-rankings.3523692/
LittleCup:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lc-viability-rankings.3496013/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:20:23 No.22897482 Report

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>>22897420
reverse-meme kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:23:13 No.22897502 Report

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>>22896395
I love where hippowdown is in UU and how much better it is in OU than it is in OU because of sand teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:28:32 No.22897541 Report

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>>22897502
same thing with Forretress actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:29:34 No.22897548 Report

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>>22896414
Nidoking already hits hard enough. All it needs is speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:31:40 No.22897562 Report

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>>22896395
The Queen is better. Use her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:40:29 No.22897629 Report

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>>22897541
I thought forretress was unranked in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 03:41:08 No.22897635 Report

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>using Nidoking in UU instead of OU now that it's occupied by Fairies and Steel types trying to counter it

It can safetly switch into Clafable that can't do shit against it, can switch in a Hyper Voice from Choice Specs Sylveon and proceed to kill it. And if you predict correctly, you might as well wreck a steel-type switching with Earth Power. Also runs Ice-Beam, and god it's awful to find a nice Ice Beam user lately.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:08:35 No.22897855 Report

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>>22897562
She is my sis. Since genwun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:10:48 No.22897877 Report

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>>22897457
this kinda makes me want to try replacing my team's hydreigon with nidoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:15:16 No.22897906 Report

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>>22897481
>scizors mega is A+ ubers

Wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:18:49 No.22897926 Report

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>>22897906
>xerneas

But basically primal groudon kills just about every xerneas check from XY its ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 05:11:37 No.22898370 Report

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>>22897369
Granbull really should either be UU or RU by usage. It can really pull its own weight in those tiers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 05:15:26 No.22898409 Report

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>>22896395
>tfw machamp was at least sitting in S rank in UU just about 2 weeks ago

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 05:46:33 No.22898625 Report

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>>22898409

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:00:58 No.22898709 Report

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>>22896414
All the king needs is speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:09:50 No.22898740 Report

Quoted By: >>22898744

>tfw your bro gets suspected and banned from the tier it's in but it's dicks in its new tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:11:17 No.22898744 Report

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>>22898740
what's your bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:14:52 No.22898754 Report

Quoted By: >>22898883

>>22898744
Not him, but I really like Crawdaunt and Volcarona.
Volcarona is less bad, but Crawdaunt is just outclassed, and will be even more outclassed when SF Gatr is released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:31:15 No.22898816 Report

Quoted By: >>22898824 >>22898895 >>22898902 >>22900026 >>22900779

>>22897481
>when Mega Sableye was revealed everyone was saying how shit it was
>currently in S rank OU
>Lopunny moved from PU to A+ in OU
Mega evolution is a hell of a dug

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:32:34 No.22898824 Report

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>>22898816
Or that /vp/ is just shit at competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:40:40 No.22898883 Report

Quoted By: >>22898891 >>22898967

>>22898754
>people overhyping Sheer Force Feraligatr this much
Crawdaunt is way better than that garbage, it will be a better DDer but that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:42:40 No.22898891 Report

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>>22898883
Untrue. it's looking to be a great wallbreaker with SD.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:43:35 No.22898895 Report

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>>22898816

Lopunny a shit. Mom moved from gates of hell to top in literally everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:44:19 No.22898902 Report

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>>22898816
Funny what happens when the megas people thought would be amazing end up banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 06:55:07 No.22898967 Report

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>>22898883
Gatr is almost a straight upgrade to Crawdaunt. The only thing Louie the Lobster has over Gatr is Adaptability Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 13:08:25 No.22900026 Report

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>>22898816
>Mega evolution is a hell of a dug
Mega Nidoking and Mega Machamp when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 13:10:25 No.22900038 Report

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UU isn't even bad, neither is RU.

NU is where the real shit is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 13:13:48 No.22900042 Report

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>>22896414
Actually he's very meta dependent, early XY it used to be in the A ranks and was a very legitimate threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 13:19:16 No.22900047 Report

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>>22898895
Mom was used in gen 5 RU and NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:02:35 No.22900725 Report

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>>22896395
>Flethinder is B+ in UU
A freaking mid stage regional bird is this high.
Also:
>Sampert
>Sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:09:34 No.22900762 Report

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>>22898967
Also it's typing resists Foul Play. Which allows SD or DD without beign murdered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:12:07 No.22900769 Report

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I like UU the most of all tiers, because it seems to be the least centralized. You can run a lot of shit, though of course sticky web teams are common. But everything from hyper offense to full tank mode is viable there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:14:03 No.22900779 Report

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>>22898816
Except in the case of banette, audino, abomasnow, steelix and camerupt who stayed exactly where they are (assuming banette is finally gonna drop next tier shift and steelix won't get banned). A lot of ou pokemon are considered to outclass or be just as good as their mega as well: tyranitar, scizor, gyarados, garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:16:06 No.22900789 Report

Quoted By: >>22900831

>>22900762
Can Crawdaunt at +2 really live a foul play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:24:21 No.22900831 Report

Quoted By: >>22900853

>>22900789
+2 0- Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Crawdaunt: 184-217 (68.6 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Only if it hasn't taken prior damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:29:35 No.22900853 Report

Quoted By: >>22900864

>>22900831
>+2 Mandibuzz
Is that how it's calced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:32:28 No.22900864 Report

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>>22900853
That's just what it comes up as in the calculator readout for some reason. The +2 attack is actually on the crawdaunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 16:34:29 No.22900868 Report

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>>22900864
I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 18:04:22 No.22901301 Report

Quoted By: >>22902495 >>22902521

>>22896414
>>22900725
How will Gen VII try to outdo the power creep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 21:31:32 No.22902495 Report

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>>22901301
+2 priority to flying type moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 21:36:12 No.22902521 Report

Quoted By: >>22902558

>>22901301
Did it ever happen that the stats of a Pokemon were reduced during a gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 21:40:49 No.22902558 Report

Quoted By: >>22902595

>>22902521
Did you mean in-between gens? Gen 2's Special split saw a lot of mons have increased or decreased BSTs.
What do you know, Exeggutor and Gyarados actually had 580BST in Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 21:45:28 No.22902595 Report

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>>22902558
Well, okay, but I mean like how Raichu got +10 speed in gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Feb 2015 22:07:59 No.22902720 Report

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>>22896395
i think that somewhere in ou there hsould be an OU fuckability rankings

i would put landorus-t in s rank for example

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