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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:23:54 No.22908133 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22908440 >>22909138 >>22911033

>Noivern isn't dark/flying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:25:49 No.22908136 Report

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>Meganium isn't steel/fairy/grass/ground/ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:26:20 No.22908139 Report

Quoted By: >>22908171

Wyverns = Dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:28:17 No.22908153 Report

Quoted By: >>22908173

>Hydreigon isn't King/Ghidorah

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:30:46 No.22908163 Report

Quoted By: >>22908383

>not flying fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:32:18 No.22908171 Report

Quoted By: >>22908427

>>22908139
Actually, Wyverns are usually said to be "lesser" dragons to an extent. That's why Noivern is flying/dragon instead of dragon/flying.

It isn't a dragon that flies, but a flying creature that resembles a dragon.

Or just a cloud that dragons.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:32:30 No.22908173 Report

Quoted By: >>22908238 >>22908427 >>22909489

>>22908153
>Hydreigon isn't a Dragon/Steel mecha pseudo-legendary tank

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 15:44:32 No.22908238 Report

Quoted By: >>22908394 >>22908427 >>22909489

>>22908173
M. Hydraigon
Dragon/steel with Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:12:10 No.22908383 Report

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>>22908163
should be grass/fairy
shit doesn't fly it just gets picked up by the wind

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:14:03 No.22908394 Report

Quoted By: >>22908550

>>22908238
>not Contrary Draco Meteors and Superpowers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:19:23 No.22908427 Report

Quoted By: >>22908600

>>22908173
>>22908238
>le dragon/steel

>>22908171
You mean they're clouds that dragon?

The pun sounds better this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:21:24 No.22908440 Report

Quoted By: >>22908544 >>22908554

>>22908133
it would just be a shittier honchkrow
>inb4 someone pretends speed is everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:38:56 No.22908541 Report

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>Celebi isn't Fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:39:12 No.22908544 Report

Quoted By: >>22908552

>>22908440
Speed is everything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:40:18 No.22908550 Report

Quoted By: >>22908565

>>22908394
>Physical Hydreigon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:40:35 No.22908552 Report

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>>22908544
>says the guy that doesn't play competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:40:39 No.22908554 Report

Quoted By: >>22908584 >>22911241

>>22908440
Speed is the one universal stat that needs to be either 31 iv's or 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:42:43 No.22908565 Report

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>>22908550
>Not thinking Hydreigon could go for a special heavy mixed set

I prefer straight special, but with a mega it's attack would likely be boosted to the point where it would be very worthwhile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:44:09 No.22908584 Report

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>>22908554
and if you're outsped all of those 31 ivs didn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 16:45:30 No.22908600 Report

Quoted By: >>22909066

>>22908427
>hurr, no dragon Steel because my autism can't take it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 17:55:05 No.22909066 Report

Quoted By: >>22909127 >>22909144

>>22908600
not that anon, but they people wanting the dragon/steel mecha hydreigon are the autistic fucks. it's literally a retarded idea that makes zero sense and is only suggested because

>m-muh epic original concept! XD

retarded. hydreigon is not a mecha tank nor should it become one.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:00:52 No.22909101 Report

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>Flygon isn't Dragon/Bug

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:04:17 No.22909127 Report

Quoted By: >>22909348

>>22909066
>it's literally a retarded idea that makes zero sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:06:16 No.22909138 Report

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>>22908133
>Noivern isn't sound/dragon or sound/flying

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:07:23 No.22909144 Report

Quoted By: >>22909149 >>22909348 >>22909452

>>22909066
>not wanting mecha king ghidodrah as hydreigon's mega
So much shit taste

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:08:57 No.22909149 Report

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>>22909144
>wanting Pokemon for sexual

You sick fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:37:51 No.22909348 Report

Quoted By: >>22909370 >>22909408 >>22909409 >>22909429

>>22909144
>>22909127
it'll never happen, here's why

Hydreigon is DARK/dragon, not dragon/dark. typing changes have never replaced the primary one, always the second. Skorupi -> Drapion is the single most drastic type change, and even then the primary thing holding them was poison, not bug.

If anything, Hydreigon would be Dark/Steel.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:42:08 No.22909370 Report

Quoted By: >>22909383 >>22909389

>>22909348
What is Altaria? :^)
Starting as Normal/Flying
Then Dragon/Flying
THEN Dragon/Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:44:53 No.22909383 Report

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>>22909370
Altaria has three different typings? That's pretty cool :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:45:58 No.22909389 Report

Quoted By: >>22909408

>>22909370
Flying types are weird because, until Noibat, GF had insisted they'd never be a primary type. And since megas weren't conceived back in Gen 3, Altaria was still flying type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:49:45 No.22909408 Report

Quoted By: >>22909417 >>22909426 >>22909428 >>22909447

>>22909389
But Swablu still changed from normal/dragon to dragon/normal, proving that >>22909348 is full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:49:55 No.22909409 Report

Quoted By: >>22909426 >>22909465

>>22909348
M-Hera is based on a mecha.
M-Pinsir is based on a mecha.

And,

M-Tynanitar is a thing.

Cap this, because I predict that M-Volcarona and M-Hydreigon will be a thing next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:51:01 No.22909417 Report

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>>22909408
Literally what

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:52:00 No.22909426 Report

Quoted By: >>22909435

>>22909408
Swablu is normal/flying, and then became Dragon/Flying. The thing connecting them is Flying type, though Altaria's mega did replace that. I guess there could be merit but I'm still not convinced, unless there's a non-flying example?

>>22909409
And did any of those get a drastic type change? Hydreigon is the only Dark/Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:52:35 No.22909428 Report

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>>22909408
>normal/dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:52:42 No.22909429 Report

Quoted By: >>22909456

>>22909348
>typing changes have never replaced the primary one
What about Steelix?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:53:34 No.22909435 Report

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>>22909426
I'm just saying that GF likes both mechas and Godzilla.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:54:46 No.22909447 Report

Quoted By: >>22909499

>>22909408
Swablu goes from Normal/Flying to Dragon/Flying
Azurill goes for Normal/Fairy to Water/Fairy

Those are the only cases of a pokemon losing its primary type. Do you what they have in common?

Now ask yourself it Hydreigon also fits the criteria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:55:09 No.22909452 Report

Quoted By: >>22909948 >>22914666

>>22909144
>wanting something with no sign or robotic influence to turn into a mecha

that's literally digimon. go fuck yourself with your retarded idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:56:04 No.22909456 Report

Quoted By: >>22909474 >>22909476

>>22909429
Rock to Steel is just a logical procession, and regardless then, they were both still ground.

Even if the concept is there, what reason would Hydreigon have for just growing metal out of nowhere? There's no mega that drastic, you might as well just give Zweilous a new evolution at that point. Trade with some new metal item or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:56:52 No.22909465 Report

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>>22909409
>M-Hera is based on a mecha.
>M-Pinsir is based on a mecha.

you're just proving the anon's point you stupid buttmonkey. neither mega heracross nor mega pinsir are part steel with stupid metal contraptions slapped on like most of the idiots on /vp/ suggest for mega hydreigon

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:57:08 No.22909469 Report

Quoted By: >>22909478 >>22911499

Gee I wonder what would make for a better Dragon/Steel mega....

>but muh mecha-ghidorah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:58:35 No.22909474 Report

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>>22909456
>what reason would Hydreigon have for just growing metal out of nowhere
What reason would Swablu have for just growing dragon out of nowhere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:58:46 No.22909476 Report

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>>22909456
>Rock to Steel is just a logical procession, and regardless then, they were both still ground.

And Mega Hydreigon would still be Dragon. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 18:59:23 No.22909478 Report

Quoted By: >>22911266

>>22909469
no one cares about haxorus
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:00:49 No.22909489 Report

Quoted By:

>>22908173
>>22908238
It bothers me that haxorus inst steel type to go along Hydregion being dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:02:43 No.22909499 Report

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>>22909447
And also Onix going from Rock/Ground to Steel/Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:07:32 No.22909520 Report

Quoted By: >>22909538 >>22909562

Secondary typings have been added after:

Evolution (Slowpoke)
Forme change (Shaymin)
Mega evolution (Sceptile)
Generation retcon (Magnemite)

They have been taken away after:
Mega Evoution (Aggron)

They have been replaced after:

Evolving (Surskit)
Mega Evolution (Gyarados)
Forme Change/Generation (Rotom)

Primary typing has been changed too:

Generation (Granbull)
Evolution (Steelix)
Forme Change (Castform)

Now check when some of these occurred for the first time. Every single time someone says "b-but there is no h-history of that happening" I say, well, there wasn't a previous record of some of those things above happening, but they still did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:11:45 No.22909538 Report

Quoted By: >>22909545

>>22909520
>Aggron
Worth noting that Rock was Aggron's primary typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:13:38 No.22909545 Report

Quoted By: >>22909549

>>22909538
No, Rock is secondary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:15:10 No.22909549 Report

Quoted By: >>22909599 >>22914685

>>22909545
Smogon had it listed backwards.
Not that it really matters outside of this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:15:27 No.22909551 Report

Quoted By: >>22909558

What are you even discussing again? Wasn't it something about hydreigon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:16:39 No.22909558 Report

Quoted By: >>22909566

>>22909551
Someone got autismal over the idea of a Steel/Dragon Hydregion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:16:55 No.22909562 Report

Quoted By: >>22909588

>>22909520
>Secondary typings have been added after:
>Evolution (Slowpoke)

wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:17:37 No.22909566 Report

Quoted By: >>22909571 >>22909574

>>22909558
Why can't it remain Dark/Dragon and get an ability that makes it immune to fairies or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:18:29 No.22909571 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909566
because hydreigon doesn't deserve to be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:18:44 No.22909574 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909566
It's just a callback to its original design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:20:31 No.22909588 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909562
Meant to say Staryu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 19:21:56 No.22909599 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909549
I was going after Bulbapedia actually. Serebii confirms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 20:08:36 No.22909948 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909452
But it's always nice to dream you angry fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:18:35 No.22911033 Report

Quoted By: >>22911092

>>22908133
All Noveirn needs is Aerilate to become topest tier.
It would end up in the same tier as mega fug,

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:27:33 No.22911092 Report

Quoted By: >>22914472

>>22911033
>everything gets aerialate

Infiltrator is a good ability. What it really needs is either better options for moves with high BP for coverage or moves with high base power but less atrocious accuracy. All its best moves have low accuracy and drawbacks galore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:49:39 No.22911241 Report

Quoted By: >>22911267

>>22908554
Uhh, I think you mean 252 EV's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:53:41 No.22911266 Report

Quoted By: >>22911492 >>22911509 >>22914714

>>22909478
Fuck you Haxorus is the best designed dragon type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:54:03 No.22911267 Report

Quoted By: >>22911453

>>22911241
He doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:26:27 No.22911453 Report

Quoted By: >>22911486

>>22911267
Oh right, I forgot some people waste time on cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:33:44 No.22911486 Report

Quoted By:

>>22911453
I have no idea what you're talking about and how it has to do with cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:35:14 No.22911492 Report

Quoted By:

>>22911266
My nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:36:38 No.22911499 Report

Quoted By:

>>22909469
Someone posted a nice Mega Haxorus once, forgot about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:38:36 No.22911509 Report

Quoted By:

i still don't understand why Garchomp part of dragon

>>22911266
dubs confirmed 4 great taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 07:43:59 No.22914472 Report

Quoted By:

>>22911092
You didn't hear me right.
Aerilate Boomburst.
Flying is one of the best offensive typings nothing is immune to it while it is resisted only by steel, rock and electric.
Noveirn just doesn't hit hard enough even with Hurricane and DM thanks to base 97 SpA.
A flying type stab boom burst would make it one of the best special attackers in the game.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 07:48:41 No.22914485 Report

Quoted By:

>Mawile isn't dark/fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:32:33 No.22914666 Report

Quoted By: >>22915990

>>22909452
Hydreigon was originally intended to look like a battle tank you misinformed fuck. The lines on its body were originally tank treads before they removed it's military overtones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:38:51 No.22914685 Report

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>>22909549
seriously, why does smogon have the types in backwards order?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:47:19 No.22914714 Report

Quoted By: >>22914722

>>22911266
Dragonair and Salamence are better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:52:09 No.22914722 Report

Quoted By: >>22914731

>>22914714
Yes to Sally, no to Dragonair

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:54:30 No.22914731 Report

Quoted By: >>22914742 >>22914758

>>22914722
Why does this board hate Dragonair so much? It may not look like a badass but it's majestic as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 08:58:27 No.22914742 Report

Quoted By: >>22914768

>>22914731
It's not bad.
But I guess Milotic did its job better in the majesty department

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 09:00:42 No.22914750 Report

Quoted By: >>22915024

My favorite white and gold pokemon gets a mega with contary

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 09:02:18 No.22914758 Report

Quoted By: >>22914768

>>22914731
Because dragonairfags are whining faggots and nothing related to dratini line is even that good

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 09:04:22 No.22914768 Report

Quoted By: >>22914782

>>22914742
Milotic isn't a dragon type though
>>22914758
>Because dragonairfags are whining faggots
Being a contrarian just some someone else is being contrarian?
>nothing related to dratini line is even that good
Bullshit

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 09:09:38 No.22914782 Report

Quoted By: >>22914785

>>22914768
>just some someone
*because

Also, why is M-Ampharos a dragon type but not Milotic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 09:11:36 No.22914785 Report

Quoted By: >>22915108

>>22914782
Nigger, Milotic should be Water-Fairy. With a Mega, at least. It'd be the perfect opposite to Mega Gyarados 'cause they both evolve from useless fish.

>tfw we will never have this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 10:37:39 No.22915024 Report

Quoted By:

>>22914750
It´s actually not white and gold, your eyes are just shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 11:02:49 No.22915108 Report

Quoted By:

>>22914785
Cynthia could have milotic as her ace instead of garchomp or lucario in the remakes, and the mega would be water/fairy with multiscale or something, but in exchange korrina is the new kalos champion and lucario gets a primal mega, y/n? Imo i think its bad idea, fuck that ugly llama-dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 15:52:00 No.22915990 Report

Quoted By:

>>22914666
>misinformed

how the fuck am i misinformed you retard? it was originally that, but it isn't anymore. so turning an entire line with no robotic influence into one is literally what digimon does

>inb4 muh lines on stomach

they aren't fucking treads anymore.

sorry if pointing out the truth that it's a fucking retarded digimon idea rustled your jimmies you fag

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