WE ARE NO LONGER TAKING POKEMON SUBMISSIONS AT THIS TIME, ALL 386 DEX SLOTS HAVE BEEN FILLED AND LOCKED.
What is Pokemon Clover?
>FireRed hack >151 (eventually more) Fakemon, created by /vp/ >Fairy type and Physical/Special split added >Some Gen 4/5 moves and abilities added >Trainers will be made more challenging and edited to use the new Pokemon >Towns/Routes will be the same, but minimally edited to add new events, with a couple of new areas >TMs and HMs are the same >Uses MrDollSteak's decap/attack patch >Battle Facility where you can rematch people and buy rare items. What is Pokemon DubsClover?
>Essentials Game >A completely new region, the Inavia region >Some new characters, some old characters >Completely new plot >A new dex of around 275 Pokemon - some new, some old, all created by /vp/ >Challenging game >Links: Inavia map:
http://i.imgur.com/aHVWpkj.png Inavia mapped in Essentials so far:
http://i.imgur.com/nnFzUmX.png Post-game region map:
http://s22.postimg.org/wuc9jup9t/1419462360999.png Google Doc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DIWPeo3EaFguJlvKS-kz54ZJchIHnmmrpiPGmVsfAoY/edit#gid=0 Wiki:
http://pgenvp.wikia.com/ - PLEASE HELP UPDATE THIS
Wiki Template:
http://pastebin.com/k7Q2KcGv ---
Clover is being made by Camerupt. See the current thread contents for a list of work.
DubsClover is being made by Numel. Feel free to help with mapping, designing towns and more!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xyAHTaYG4FsTDDsiUpTid5ocrt69pIjq8RtzfeFCzsA ------------------------------------------
Download the 2 gym demo/Open beta here:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00968247575020470394 Please report any bugs, glitches, text fuck-ups, etc. on the thread here, with screenshots if you can please!
Come to the Pokemon Clover official IRC room:
Channel name: #PokemonClover, use kiwi IRC with default server setting please
Visit our thread at Pokecommunity:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=343829
Anonymous
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Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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Im on IRC right now
Fifz
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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>>22911196 Bump for nice sprites
Anonymous
>>22911196 >Captcha:horni >again Is this a new meme?
Fifz
>>22911279 It's more like a clover inside joke, like Blobbi Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>22911285 Blobbi is our meme
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Anonymous
Just board hopping and came across this thread, some really ace designs in there, good job. I would actually have issues trying to say my favourites.
Anonymous
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>>22912246 Then challenge yourself to decide on your favorites.
Also welcome to the not-so-bad side of /vp/
Fifz
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>>22912246 Do want to help?
We need some help with sprites :^)
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22912449 >no pants pls no
Fifz
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>>22912449 For a second I thought he had dsl
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>>22912246 Thanks anon :^) That's a really nice compliment
Anonymous
>Clover >Sage >Aus >Rainbow Are we in the golden age of digimon projects?
Anonymous
>>22913560 haha scratch that. Rainbow already ded.
Anonymous
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>>22913567 >rainbow ded >aus will never get made >sage will finish in the year 2029 Are we in the golden age of shit never getting dun?
Anonymous
>>22913567 What happened to Rainbow?
Anonymous
>>22913637 Apparently the creator didn't make enough backups and it corrupted. Stay tuned on what happens next.
Anonymous
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>>22913804 Now we need to double our resolve and git er dun.
Anonymous
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>>22912449 DONT FUCK WITH THIS POKEMON
Anonymous
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I fucking hate toxiraptor, I especially hate its creator.
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>>22913663 I hope we're making enough backups ourselves. I lost a good project myself because I didn't make enough backups.
Anonymous
>>22910859 color mindfuck dress psychic mon when?
Fifz
>>22915519 I hate this fucking dress....
It's green and purple Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>22915532 It's navy blue and yellow you dork
Fifz
Anonymous
What was the reason why Blobbos has a shit-tier shiny again?
Fifz
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>>22915784 Just to fit with the ultimate shitmon motif
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22910859 I've just saw that pic from the front page of 4chan
are those really the pokemon you are going to use? or are they a joke?
Anonymous
Once the full game is complete, are we going to have to start anew? Will I not be able to use the same team as I used back in the demo?
Anonymous
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>>22915832 Well, editing the rom still works with the old sav. so don't delete it.
Anonymous
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>>22910859 If I pick Arabomb as my starter, will I be able to get Grasshole after beating the elite four?
This is important
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22915812 What do you mean?
Fifz
Le Ruse Bird
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
>>22916295 roll for next?
Endranther backsprites Ffiz
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>>22916320 I think i gonna do Sabreck next
Anonymous
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
>>22915519 Give wifemin a slight redesign so its "dress" is the mindfuck dress
Ffiz
>>22916352 Wifemin's color palette is Gray/Blue, i think we can made its shiny's dress White/Gold
The Ungracious One
Fifz
Anonymous
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>>22916352 >>22916398 For the last time, the dress is Green/Purple
EditAnon
Fifz
The Ungracious One
Anonymous
Can we just take a second to admire the perfection that is the Grasshole line.
The Ungracious One
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>>22916899 Dubsus confirms.
Fifz
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RIP Luke Skywalker ;_;7
Anonymous
>>22916718 So now we have 11 more backsprites?
The Ungracious One
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Meanwhile in DubsClover...
http://clyp.it/intymy1a Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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Bump goin on IRC
Anonymous
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>>22915754 spoopy should have a poopy
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Fifz
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>>22918439 I'm gonna do Endranther's backsprites in a bit, if you aren't doing them already
Anonymous
Fifz
Anonymous
>>22918673 >tfw no one ever remembers Avdol and Iggy RIP in pieces, based Egyptian and based dog ;_;7
Fifz
>>22918739 RIP in pieces
____Spock ;_;
Anonymous
Fifz
Mooshock previewYes, i gave ears to it
D.I.O !KBgk.53lJg
Fifz
>>22918836 Another mon finished
Anonymous
>>22918979 In future backsprites, can you make them just a bit bigger?
Anonymous
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Somebody should make a pastebin explaining (for education purpose) all the awesome memes of every pokemon in this glorious generation.
Fifz
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>>22919000 It's a NFE pokemon, this size is kinda ok
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22919374 Wait until Notsinnoh becomes a thing.
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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>>22919378 Kuuroba is in the Ebindex
Anonymous
Anonymous
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So did anyone add genthree as a tab to the doc yet? It'd make finding the information for them a lot simpler than having to request a doc separate from the main one for no good reason every thread.
>>22919595 Ebin. Only 10 more backsprites to go and then all the Pokemon for 1.0 will be ready to go. Then it's a matter of mapping and scripting. I hope Camerupt's recruitment has been going well.
>captcha: dickz Anonymous
>>22919374 How does Clovour evolve into Kuurōba anyway?
Anonymous
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RIP Urgeller ;_;
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>>22919828 Im still lurkin...
Anonymous
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>>22919828 OH BABY 9 MORE BACKSPRITES TO GO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ny9zp84E0 Bavidraco theme, because why not?
Avidraco is found at Rainbow Belt and this theme would make sense because after rain comes rainbows Anonymous
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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Before bed bump
Anonymous
>>22920567 I think it'd slide off better if the palette was like this
Anonymous
>>22920567 >>22920599 This should be Hexlaifu's design.
Anonymous
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>>22920733 But its name doesn't really fit now.
Anonymous
HEY CLOVER WAKE THE FUCK UP
Anonymous
Anonymous
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One last bump before bed time.
Anonymous
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This is nice project...>Captcha: horri
Paint Dude
Anonymous
>>22910859 >Dex lacks Cis Female Nidoran >Dex lacks Cis Male Nidoran >Dex lacks Androgynous Nidoran >Dex lacks Agender Nidoran >Dex lacks Female to Male Nidoran >Dex lacks Male to Female Nidoran >Dex lacks Non-binary Nidoran >Dex lacks Pangender Nidoran >Dex lacks Bidoof-kin Nidoran You know, Nidoran's identity shouldn't be limited by your simple minded divisions
Anonymous
>>22922353 Dex is locked, Fakemon only.
Anonymous
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>>22922353 Sjwhale, pls...
Anonymous
>>22922378 That didn't stop Motherfuck though
captcha: texus
Anonymous
>>22923116 Motherfuck is original you sexy man
Captcha: udork
!21sYztrEBM
>>22922353 actual sjw here, most otherkin don't consider their kintypes to be their gender, and "androgynous" is a dated term, try again next time
Anonymous
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>>22923139 Motherfuck is motherfuck-ing stupid.
:^) Anonymous
>>22923143 Tumblr user here, actually I've seen a bunch of people on tumblr use their kintype as a gender/kintype for pronouns (lest not forget the bullshit noun-self pronouns. "uwu im voidself!! u w ,,u" )
And androgynous is actually a term still widely used by the transgender community over here in the UK, so.
!21sYztrEBM
>>22923151 pronouns =/= gender
the UK is shet anyways
Anonymous
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>>22923158 I identify as UK-kin and I find that offensive.
Le Ruse Bird
>>22923151 Meme master here, you all need to check your privilege right now.
http://www.checkmyprivilege.com/ !21sYztrEBM
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>>22923207 >Your privilege level is Extremely Oppressed with a score of -585 ebin
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
Hey guys, i miss anything?
Anonymous
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>>22923207 Your privilege level is Extremely Oppressed with a score of -910
Amazing.
Anonymous
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>>22923207 >Your privelege level is SHITLORD with a score of 130 Maybe they're mad because my score is more than their IQs Anonymous
>>22923233 Tumblr has invaded.
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
Anonymous
>>22922353 >>Dex lacks Cis Female Nidoran >>Dex lacks Cis Male Nidoran this would be cool
>born female nidoran think is male female stats and male moveset
>born male nidoran think is female male nidoran stats and female nidoran moveset
Anonymous
>>22923301 If you want this so badly, make your own game. Ours is full.
Anonymous
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Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
Anonymous
>>22923653 Small edit to fix some shading.
D.I.O !KBgk.53lJg
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>>22923207 >Your privilege level is Extremely Oppressed with a score of -3970 Good job shitlords.
Anonymous
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>>22924198 lookin good nigga
>8 backsprites left. Anonymous
A few sprite animation ideas for Dubsclover. Starting with a mon named after my IRC identity
Anonymous
>>22924964 Edgy blood! From a plant anus!
Anonymous
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>>22924975 Holy shit, it's Holy Duty!
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>>22925528 Well, if you wanted a fanart session, you could've just asked.
Anonymous
>>22925861 Well if you want :^)
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>>22926025 Might make more soon
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>>22926033 Requesting Cheesetta
The Ungracious One
Anonymous
>>22924198 We interrupt this fanart dump to bring you a completed Miasmortor.
Anonymous
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>>22926165 Doing god's work as usual.
Anonymous
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>>22926050 Oh and here's that cheezetta anon
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>>22926303 I love these, Anon
Anonymous
D1nomite
Anyone who doesnt know what they can help with, we need LOTS of help on the wiki. even if youve never used it before, its easy to learn (i did most of the templates already). Itd be nice if the wiki was done before the game.
Fifz
D.I.O !KBgk.53lJg
>>22926816 Depending on how easy it is to edit on mobile, I'll have a go at some of it.
D1nomite
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>>22927166 If you have a question about anything, check th page for grasshole.
Anonymous
To the Rectreem guy in the wiki.Rectreem takes Water moves as 1x damage, not 1/2x. Ground is weak to Water.
Anonymous
I don't follow along Clo-Clo for one day and already we got Trozei happening in this bitch
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>>22927352 We only need six more backsprites to finish Fochun, anon ;)
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
Is Mabster pronounced "Mab-ster" or "Mahb-ster"?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22927615 Whatever happened to Tricillion being Rock/Dark?
Anonymous
>>22927555 I don't see the difference between those two pronounces.
"Maebstur? Mahbstir? Masbtur?"
Anonymous
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>>22927640 We have too many Dark types in Fochun as it is.
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
>>22927657 I'll make it more clear:
How do you /vp/oreons pronounce it, "Mabster" or "Mobster"?
Anonymous
>>22927668 Most likely Mabster.
Anonymous
>>22927668 >>22927674 It's "Mabster," like master.
Anonymous
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>>22927729 So, does he
Mabster-bate? Anonymous
Who's the OP of this project? I'd like to be able to use some of these sprites as monsters in an RPG Maker game I'm making. Who should I give credit to?
Anonymous
>>22927818 Clover's asleep. You can ask again around 6 pm tomorrow, but if the monsters are going to be temporary then go ahead.
Anonymous
>>22927850 >Temporary What do you mean?
Anonymous
>>22927861 Like placeholders.
As in, the final product won't have them.
Anonymous
>>22927879 I'll wait until six then. Thanks for the info.
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
Anonymous
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>>22927916 You can at least use this.
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
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>>22927818 >>22927861 >>22927916 Either way, make sure you release your game after the full version of Clover, lest people accuse us of stealing from you.
Anonymous
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>>22927818 I don't think you should want to use our sprites or mons in your game. Try coming up with your own ideas.
Anonymous
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
>>22927818 Im the OP, along with another guy named Numel
No, please create your own OC instead of using ours and removing it from it's source material. We are our own project, not a free sprite resource.
D.I.O !KBgk.53lJg
>>22928174 Cammy layin' down the law.
Le Ruse Bird
Anonymous
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>>22927253 Fuck, I forgot he was grass/ground. Imma chance it as soon as I get back to wikiwork
Fifz
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>>22928174 Thank you, Based Camerupt
Fifz
>>22927818 Also, i'm the main spriter of Clover.
And no, you can't use those sprites
They are made specifically for Clover/DubsClover/WorldTornament (If this one will happen someday)
Anonymous
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[s4s] is making an albume. Maybe in DubsClover we can use some songs from other albumes in an easter egg
Anonymous
Numel !X.jt37ypTM
Bump. Thread is ded.
>>22927818 steal someone else's maymays
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
Hey guys, im not gonna be sround again today so here is what i want to be going on. Once the Fochun backsprites are done, i am going to be taking the next week or however long it may take to insert all the Pokemon left into the rom, meanwhile here is what i want you guys to do: Spriters: Start making either Ebin islands frontsprites, OR more importantly making sprites for the gym leaders, E4, and new trainer classes. Alternatively you can also work on the needed overworld sprites. Everyone else with a brain: Start coming up with sidequests or things to do in Clover besides main stuff, or come up with ideas for main stuff, as long as it is within reasonable bounds to script and implement. Also I need a ton of funny random NPC scripts, as well as lines for before/after gym leader battles, E.X. what Snoop Dawg or Guy says when you approach them in their gym, after battle, or after beating them. I also want to see movesets/dex info for all the Ebin islands pokemon start being made soon. I can't work today but i will try to find time to start getting things done.
Anonymous
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>>22931580 I call Esfores City's dialogue
Where would I find a list of all the NPC dialogue in that area?
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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Oh and also: RECRUIT,RECRUIT,RECRUIT! If you know even one person who knows anything about Pokemon hacking, get their ass on board this hype train so we can increase the speed at which we fly it into the sun.
Anonymous
>>22931580 I know someone made Snoop Dawg's sprites already, I just don't know where they are.
N !!HUBXGXyPg7N
Anonymous
>>22931858 That's the white version.
Someone recolored it so that he has proper colors.
Anonymous
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>>22931873 Nevermind, found them.
Anonymous
Our dank memes were overcome by the orcs.
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
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>>22931858 Don't worry about music, i have a secret doc for me and my music guy to worry about
if they ever message me back that is Anonymous
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>>22931977 Do we have an orc Pokemon?
Ogrelord is an ogre, not an orc
Anonymous
>>22918665 Just downloaded the demo, how can I open it?
Fifz
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>>22932041 Faustão melhor anime Anonymous
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
>>22932105 >highest votes are green and purple Thanks doc
Anonymous
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>>22932105 Ok, it looks like skin color and pink are the winrars.
Fifz
Anonymous
Idea for simple Clover event>locked door to a house in an early town >someone in every town hypes up the secrecy of it >finally get a key by going out of your way in a dungeon or something late game >inside the building is just an NPC who says "*laughs* I don't really know"
Fifz
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Urswine Preview
>>22932488 >Not: "You got Clover-rolled :^)" Anonymous
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>>22932121 That reminds me. We should recolour Pokemon Centers to Green and Purple and have 'yes' and 'no' when asked about healing replaced with 'thanks doc' and 'no thanks doc'.
Anonymous
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Tittai and Octai are done. They're in the doc, but I don't want to post them for fear of getting banned.
Fifz
Only Demiwaifu left...:^)
Le Ruse Bird
>>22932999 History is in the making as of today. Good trips.
Fifz
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>>22933007 That's delicious, Ruse!!
Anonymous
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>>22933145 Dankiest Quints?
Fuck you Krokizon The Ungracious One
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
>>22933332 >>22933334 >off by one Clovis remains slepp
>>22933333 If it's Showderp I swear...
Anonymous
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>>22933404 It was Showderp
Fifz
Ok, so 5, 0 or dubs picks next Ebinmon
Anonymous
The Ungracious One
The Ungracious One
Numel !X.jt37ypTM
Anonymous
Numel !X.jt37ypTM
Fifz
>>22933492 I already did Piicee ;)
Anonymous
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Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
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Numel !X.jt37ypTM
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>>22933501 Oh, cool.
Rollin' for Scythear resprite
Anonymous
Fifz
Lorekeeper M. !nijq7fZGeY
>>22933506 Wait, why am I doing this? Fifz himself go 0, he can decide for himself this time.
Anonymous
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>>22933515 Actually, the winner was
>>22933470 Numel !X.jt37ypTM
>have had RPG Maker VX Ace for 2 years >shows on Steam in the 'software' section >'Purchase'
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>>22933520 0 confirms that 0 decides
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>>22933574 Camgot should be called Flameboyan, that way it's not confused with Knogoat.
Anonymous
>>22933574 >3DS breaks >get new 3DS >I don't own any of the games I had on SD card anymore because DRM >even though the SD card is intact >can't log on to e-shop and re-download them because the SSID is tied to the device and the only way to log on with it on another device is to use the system transfer option which I can't because the system is broken >nintendo's face when Fifz
Camgot/Flameboyan Preview
Numel !X.jt37ypTM
Anonymous
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>>22933715 We share each other's feels.
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
>>22933692 Someone else is doing the Demiwaifu backs right now right?
Fifz
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>>22933837 No one, right now
Fifz
The Ungracious One
D1nomite
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anyone who cant art or write, help with he wiki! we are far behind. we must beat the game.
Anonymous
I know it's probably later than 6, maybe not, but is Clover on? I'm the anon from earlier that wanted to use the sprites in my RPG Maker game. May I use the monsters?
Fifz
Anonymous
>>22934383 Any particular reason why not? I'd give credit.
Camerupt !HJU5nyxb9c
>>22934369 No, see:
>>22928174 >>22930369 >>22931471 >>22934383 >>22934389 Because they are meant for our project and we do not want them deviated away from the source material, we are our own project.
Anonymous
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>>22934389 Just get inspired from them. Don't directly rip them.
Fifz
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First Ebin Dex, just for nostalgia
Anonymous
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>>22934393 I didn't read those posts; I went right down to the bottom of the thread. My bad. Well, thanks for your time anyways.
Anonymous
I just found a folder with some of the stuff from the first thread. Dumping
Anonymous
This one was the proposed region champ. Is it still that way or no? I haven't been keeping up lately
Fifz
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>>22934477 >Clover Champ: Your Mom >DubsClover Champ: Your Dad The Ungracious One
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This is one of the earliest concept arts for Upchucken. The Primals and Mega were actually my OC, believe it or not!
Anonymous
I cant remember why everyone loved this thing so much.
Anonymous
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>>22934477 >>22934488 My body was not ready for these doubledubs...
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>>22934470 Poor Fireshit. Been in the very first few threads and even got a redesign, but it will be forever shafted.
Anonymous
>>22934498 And here is its evolution.
Anonymous
The grass starter. Glad to see he made it all the way in.rmaag
Anonymous
>>22934519 Oops I typed my catchpha in without realizing it.
Fifz
>>22934511 He didn't make the cut......
Three times ;_;
Anonymous
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This one got a redesign, but I still like the original better.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>22934538 We still have Nomaestro.
Anonymous
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>>22934530 I have the same folder
Also will dump
Anonymous
I think this was the original water starter.
Fifz
>>22934555 Fuck Nomaestro, We have 2 DBZmons, why can't we have 2 KLK mons?
Anonymous
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I dont remember this thing at all.
Anonymous
>>22934567 No we don't. Spilefree is an original.
Anonymous
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>>22934562 Ayy thats my design
I was orginally desinging a grass starter but someone already did so I made this in 5 seconds.
I then made pikotton in the same thread and several more shit designs including the lanshil line, the Wedgard line, singlets line, and the orginal Pyralink design Anonymous
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And concluding my dump is Praestish, which was my design. I see that someone added a pre-evolution to it.
Anonymous
Fifz
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>>22934583 I know, I redesigned Spilefree to be a hue saiyan :^) Anonymous
Is anyone man enough to do Demiwaifu's backsprite?
Fifz
Le Ruse Bird
Le Ruse Bird
>>22934789 Nope. Fuck it.
Can't finish.
Nope.
I tried.
Anonymous
Fifz
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New bread when?
Anonymous
>>22934567 I don't consider piicee as a DBZmon. I think "Daily Dose" is its own thing.
Anonymous
>>22935113 >nanomachines aren't a reference to metal gear Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>22935122 But they are, and this has nothing to do with what I said.