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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:23:58 No.22911069 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22911087 >>22911404 >>22911476 >>22911489 >>22911660 >>22911892 >>22915228

There's any "Mary Sue" character in any Pokémon game?
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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:26:28 No.22911083 Report

Quoted By: >>22911096 >>22911097 >>22911404

The player is a pretty blatant mary sue, he defeats all the gym leaders, the pokemon league, and stops a terrorist group dead in their tracks with no apparent effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:27:14 No.22911087 Report

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>>22911069
Some consider Richie a Mary-Sue.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:27:59 No.22911096 Report

Quoted By: >>22911232

>>22911083
>A Mary Sue does anything to affect the plot
>The player does EVERYTHING to affect the plot
Think harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:28:08 No.22911097 Report

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>>22911083
Might also mention that the players is what is known as a wheel ornament, he doesn't have much personality and is only pushed around by the story, he doesn't initiate anything on his own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:42:13 No.22911186 Report

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nothing but jobbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 22:48:13 No.22911232 Report

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>>22911096
>A Mary Sue does anything to affect the plot

Where did you get that from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:16:51 No.22911404 Report

Quoted By: >>22911488 >>22911545

>>22911069
You don't even know what a Mary Sue is like half the retarded monkeys who pollute the internet. Stop posting and kill yourself.

>>22911083
>the player character does absolutely nothing to catch Pokemon, train or win battles while entire organizations fall apart if their Pokemon are defeated and official Pokemon League members besides the champion do absolutely nothing to save the world except in Gen V

You fucking retard. Did you forget you're playing a game for children?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:30:20 No.22911476 Report

Quoted By: >>22911484

>>22911069
Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:33:39 No.22911484 Report

Quoted By: >>22913454

>>22911476
Shoot yourself. I knew there was going to be a retard with this exact answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:34:03 No.22911488 Report

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>>22911404
>You don't even know what a Mary Sue is like half the retarded monkeys who pollute the internet. Stop posting and kill yourself.
this

>Did you forget you're playing a game for children?
/vp/ only remembers pokemon is a kids franchise when they have to defend the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:34:36 No.22911489 Report

Quoted By: >>22911500 >>22911592 >>22911849

>>22911069
Cynthia maybe.

Retards will say Zinnia or Iris, but they clearly have no idea what they're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:36:54 No.22911500 Report

Quoted By: >>22911524

>>22911489
How is Cynthia a Mary Sue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:39:57 No.22911524 Report

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>>22911500
She's not. A Mary Sue wouldn't get her ass handed to her by 10 year old after 10 year old. She's more of a Lightning if anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:41:23 No.22911535 Report

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I don't know what a Mary Sue is: The thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:42:01 No.22911545 Report

Quoted By: >>22911572 >>22911592

>>22911404
He is a mary sue, even though it is a children's franchise.

You don't even fucking know what a mary sue is, the player character in pokemon is on the same level as an edgy RP character written by a 13 year old boy on some shitty forum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:47:05 No.22911572 Report

Quoted By: >>22912718

>>22911545
>You don't even fucking know what a mary sue is
>proceeds to use the retarded 4chan's definition of MS

I will never get why /vp/ has such a hateboner for the franchise MCs,specially Red.

It's even more retarded when you consider the MC is supposed to be you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:48:41 No.22911592 Report

Quoted By: >>22911746 >>22912196

>>22911489
Cynthia showed up to encounter the player at various points and watched them grow just like Steven did. They were both the champion and had some role in helping stop the Legendary Pokemon. That was it.

>>22911545
What part of Pokemon is for children do you not fucking understand? Villainous organizations fall apart and disband just because they lost a battle and officials most of the time do absolutely nothing to help save the world while you're required to actually have the player fucking train their Pokemon and win battles. The circumstances are because they prove themselves as a trainer and there wouldn't be any story without them. They just happen and you just happen to show up to be part of them. You are not some chosen one and even in Black and White the player has to become worthy of one of the dragons first. God, you're an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:00:18 No.22911660 Report

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>>22911069
You came a long way to Madoka shitpost. That's pretty commendable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:10:34 No.22911746 Report

Quoted By: >>22911818 >>22911985

>>22911592
Then explain to me why there are only two battles you can actually lose in the entire franchise? The first one is against Blue right after you get your first pokemon and the second one is against AZ (and you have to be mentally retarded to lose that one)

>you just HAPPEN to SOMEHOW get into something, and then COINCIDENCES happen and your character COINCIDENTALLY saves the world! totally not mary sue!!!!!!

>you have to train your pokemon to win battles
It doesn't matter since there are no concequences of losing and all battles can be retried until you win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:21:46 No.22911810 Report

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There's no character with enough development or story to really be a Mary Sue. Lucario isn't a character but a species, Cynthia barely has any role in the games besides being a champion and having a couple cameos in later games, and the player is a silent protagonist.

The anime might have Mary Sues but the whole thing is a mess anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:23:17 No.22911818 Report

Quoted By: >>22912229

>>22911746
Yes, the player is supposed to win the most important battles like stopping the bad guys and the Legendary Pokemon to progress the story.

Your posting is shit, sounds visibly irritated you're being exposed as a retard who uses shitty /v/tard tier definitions for everything and isn't at all convincing of your terrible weak arguments. Just stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:31:43 No.22911849 Report

Quoted By: >>22911863 >>22912338

>>22911489
>Retards will say Zinnia
Because that's a correct answer.

>Seemingly appears out of nowhere, but was actually there the whole time watching from a distance
>Usurps the role of prime mover of the evil team's plot from their respective leaders
>From a never before heard of race of dragon lore keepers
>Has a team of champion-tier dragon pokemon
>Signature pokemon is overpowered
>Tragic heroine with a sad tale of loss
>Chosen one of her people
>Knows with certainty of the existence of alternate universes
>So sure of her plan as to destroy a viable back-up plan
>Her plan naturally works and has the best possible outcome
>Incredibly young with a vast knowledge of ancient lore and history
>Steals from people and assaults the player with 0 repercussions
>Is described as having to bear a considerable burden, to save the world
>Talks down to people that have been proven to be rational and deserving of respect
>Chastises the player for not knowing as much as she

Zinnia reads like a 13 y/o's OC donut steal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:34:23 No.22911863 Report

Quoted By: >>22911915

>>22911849
At least she's hot. She really is terrible written. I won't even defend this.

And the only donuts I want are Rosa's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:36:38 No.22911879 Report

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:38:17 No.22911892 Report

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>>22911069
Lucario

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Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:41:51 No.22911915 Report

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>>22911863
>And the only donuts I want are Rosa's.
mah nigga.
see you in the Rosa thread.

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ゾトレ・キージー Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:50:05 No.22911956 Report

Quoted By: >>22911971 >>22912538

>Able to knock the player character out despite them likely having several level 70+ Pokémon on their team
>Actual battle is effortless because Mega Rayquaza Dragon Pulse OHKOs literally her entire team

What the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:53:37 No.22911971 Report

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>>22911956
>OMG LOOK HOW CRAZY AND RANDOM SHE IS
>SHE HAS POINTY TEETH AND A CRAZY LOOK IN HER FACE
> XDDDDDDDDD
God, I fucking hate how they ruined such a great character opportunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:55:52 No.22911979 Report

Quoted By: >>22912102

Player in XY
>A bunch of people want to be his friends and give him a Pokemon
>Gets the mega ring before he's proven himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 00:57:23 No.22911985 Report

Quoted By: >>22912229

>>22911746
>and the second one is against AZ

What happens if you lose against AZ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 01:11:27 No.22912102 Report

Quoted By: >>22915438

>>22911979
This is fucking gay. And I mean more gay than actual homosexuality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 01:27:29 No.22912196 Report

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>>22911592
This. Cynthia herself isn't any more of a sue than other champions, it's just that her fandom is more obnoxious than most other characterfags so you'd think she is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 01:32:18 No.22912229 Report

Quoted By: >>22912774

>>22911818
>lol u sux at argumenting so i win XXD
Try to prove me wrong if you're so cock sure you're right, oh wait, you can't because you are fucking retarded.

Even in battles against major badguys like Ghetsis you just get sent back to the pokemon center and they will be waiting for you right where you left, you can fight almost every trainer in the game again and again until you win, the PC never canonically loses.

>>22911985
Nothing, the parade goes on like usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 01:45:38 No.22912338 Report

Quoted By: >>22912464 >>22912564

>>22911849
>conveniently forgetting the most important part of Delta episode which is: she doesnt actually do shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:01:53 No.22912464 Report

Quoted By: >>22912491

>>22912338
She does manage to destroy the only other possible way to destroy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:04:19 No.22912491 Report

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>>22912464
>being useless is being a Mary Sue
And I though I've seen everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:09:11 No.22912538 Report

Quoted By: >>22912561

>>22911956
I find it weird that this part of her character doesn't show in anything other than the battle encounter screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:11:46 No.22912561 Report

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>>22912538
It's literally the only problem with the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:12:10 No.22912564 Report

Quoted By: >>22912567

>>22912338
>Steals a bunch of keystones
>Gives the player the meteorite shard
>Destroys the dimensional shifter
>Lots of words
>Summons Rayquaza
>Teaches Rayquaza Dragon Ascent

>Does nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:12:59 No.22912567 Report

Quoted By: >>22912668

>>22912564
Good, and does she accomplish her goal of HER saving the world with Rayquaza?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:24:38 No.22912668 Report

Quoted By: >>22912678

>>22912567
Her goal isn't to personally go up there, she assumes that is her fate as the chosen one. That she'll die and be reunited with Aster.

The fact that she is so critical to saving the world and survives the entire ordeal only to mysteriously disappear only underscores her Mary Sue quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:26:09 No.22912678 Report

Quoted By: >>22912700

>>22912668
> she assumes that is her fate as the chosen one
Yeah, and she's not

>The fact that she is so critical to saving the world and survives the entire ordeal only to mysteriously disappear only underscores her Mary Sue quality.
>a character does something competently
>IT HAS TO BE A MARY SUE

never change /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:30:37 No.22912700 Report

Quoted By: >>22912713

>>22912678
Yes she is. She's the chosen Lorekeeper of the draconids. You clearly cannot read worth a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:32:40 No.22912713 Report

Quoted By: >>22912731 >>22913103 >>22913223

>>22912700
>She's the chosen Lorekeeper of the draconids

You're really bad at this you know?

Aside from the fact that any official character cant be a mary sue by definition, she fails at one important part, actually fucking saving the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:33:37 No.22912718 Report

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>>22911572
>/vp/ is full of self hating man children
Mystery solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:37:43 No.22912731 Report

Quoted By: >>22912748

>>22912713
Oh, I get it now. She's your waifu and I'm talkin' shit 'bout your waifu.

Sorry anon, I won't tarnish your waifu's name any further. I promise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:40:53 No.22912748 Report

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>>22912731
Not really, I just dont like retards spouting terms they dont know about to characters they dont like because they are popular. And /vp/ is specially bad at judging writing.

But it's to be expected of a board who worships a show with 20 years of no character development and nothing happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 02:45:29 No.22912774 Report

Quoted By: >>22913468

>>22912229
>if you lose to Ghetsis, Unova is doomed
>hurr why does the game not count losing to Ghetsis
>oh wait you can't because you're fucking retarded

Holy shit, you're the one who's retarded here. How the fuck are you going to compare a battle for the fate of the entire region to an average boss like a gym leader that just sends you back to the Pokemon Center like always? Do you really expect them to let the story progress with the bad guy winning? Stop posting and kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 03:31:08 No.22913103 Report

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>>22912713
>Aside from the fact that any official character cant be a mary sue by definition

By what definition? Because Paula Smith, the creator of the term, acknowledges that the term does not only apply to fan fiction characters. She calls Superman a Marty Stu. I don't think it gets much more official than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 03:46:42 No.22913223 Report

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>>22912713
>she fails at one important part, actually fucking saving the world
Exactly, she's a fuck up who almost doomed the planet twice, seeing as Rayray wouldn't have had the power to stop Kyogre/Groudon if her retarded plan A worked. I think the problem is that /vp/ wants the game to explicitly say that rather than just show it or have characters call her out on being a hypocrite. Delta Episode reads like a bunch of people who are all trying to achieve the same thing but are all screwing up and being successful in different ways. The protagonist has to take the best from two opposing plans and make it work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 03:48:00 No.22913229 Report

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why, my peanus weenus of course :)

hahah!

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! hahah :)

ITT: Mary Sues in Pokemon - my answer, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 04:31:07 No.22913454 Report

Quoted By: >>22913821

>>22911484
Stay upset, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 04:34:10 No.22913468 Report

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>>22912774
No, that isn't what I meant, no matter how many times you lose it has no concequences, they don't even canonically happen, the player character just wins at everything the first time he tries it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 05:36:27 No.22913821 Report

Quoted By: >>22915219

>>22913454
So, Cynthia's a Mary Sue because she's a competent trainer? Okay then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 11:42:05 No.22915219 Report

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>>22913821
No, she's a Mary Sue cus she's doesn't have flaws.

And 2 Mary Sue mons in her team (Lucario and Garchomp).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 11:47:59 No.22915228 Report

Quoted By: >>22915236

>>22911069
Giovanni

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 11:51:45 No.22915236 Report

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>>22915228
Mary Sues are usually spotlight-stealers who take up too much screentime, Giovanni is pretty much an anti-sue seeing as how he doesn't have much appearances and never exactly tries to destroy the world or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Feb 2015 13:18:55 No.22915438 Report

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>>22912102
Its 2015, stop using gay as an insult

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