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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 22:50:25 No.22933370 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>22933401 >>22933453 >>22933880

Pokemon whose tier surprised you.

RU

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 22:53:51 No.22933397 Report

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RU

Not really surprising. But it is cool that it can hold its own in higher tiers.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 22:53:53 No.22933398 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 22:54:15 No.22933401 Report

Quoted By: >>22933453 >>22933546 >>22933612 >>22933834 >>22934138 >>22934661

>>22933370
These two in UU, Pidgeot has a non existent movepool and Beedrill dies to anything with Priority and has to run protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:03:27 No.22933453 Report

Quoted By: >>22933612

>>22933370
Weather wars are over. Of course it would drop compared to Gen 5.

>>22933401
Pidgeot being UU and even usable in OU really surprised me myself. Beedrill is a murder machine though.

>>22933398
This will NEVER be OU. 2 fast, 2 furious.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:13:34 No.22933532 Report

Quoted By: >>22933614

Is QuiverPass really too good for UU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:14:51 No.22933546 Report

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>>22933401
>dies to anything with priority
Where are you getting this bullshit from son?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:21:39 No.22933602 Report

Quoted By: >>22933622 >>22933645

>>22933546
Not him, but a 40 base defense with no investment isn't really going to survive any common priority user save for a Mach Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:23:41 No.22933612 Report

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>>22933453
>>22933401
When your one move is the perfect storm, you aren't really that bad off. Hurricane is strong, Flying has good coverage, and confusion is valuable. Heat Wave is nice as coverage moves go, too. In terms of stats and niche, Mega Pidgeot is actually pretty well-designed. It's a pretty solid Pokemon. Sadly it's one or two moves away from true greatness. It's usable as is, which is nice, but it lacks the wow-factor most other Megas bring to the team. Maybe someday it'll get some new toys and make more of a name for itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:23:55 No.22933614 Report

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>>22933532
It wrecks stall, so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:24:34 No.22933622 Report

Quoted By: >>22933649 >>22933664 >>22933678

>>22933602

252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 199-235 (73.4 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 133-157 (49 - 57.9%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Diggersby Quick Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 172-204 (63.4 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 162-192 (59.7 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

just stop replying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:27:44 No.22933645 Report

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>>22933602
Yet most priority that isn't bird is really weak because most of it is 40 base power and if you're not Scizor, neutral priority won't actually kill.
>240 Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 173-204 (63.8 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 162-192 (59.7 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 192-226 (70.8 - 83.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Bird and Pinsir are stuck up in OU. Having to run protect isn't inherently bad if it helps for prediction and against High Jump Kick anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:27:59 No.22933649 Report

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>>22933622
Add rocks or a choice band where relevant, OHKOs just happened.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:30:23 No.22933662 Report

Quoted By: >>22933675

I pay very little attention to Smogon, so I was surprised when I learnt that Gothitelle was OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:30:43 No.22933664 Report

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>>22933622
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Beedrill: 954-1124 (352 - 414.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:30:59 No.22933670 Report

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>>22933649
Realize this is Gen 6 and you have 6 Pokemon in singles where these tiers exist, so something like having a single Pokemon on your team with Defog could happen because of support of 20 potential other moves on your roster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:31:14 No.22933675 Report

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>>22933662
Shadow tag ruins stall, which is the playstyle of choice for the UU mods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:32:04 No.22933678 Report

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>>22933622
not him, but beedrill can't really do much against those either, so it gets 2HKO'd easily

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:35:49 No.22933701 Report

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>>22933678
>beedrill can't OHKO azumarill with poison jab

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:37:41 No.22933714 Report

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>>22933701
252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Poison Jab vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 320-380 (79.8 - 94.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:55:26 No.22933820 Report

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>>22933714
>252+ Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja: 294-348 (103.1 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Mar 2015 23:57:16 No.22933834 Report

Quoted By: >>22933913 >>22933968

>>22933401
Protect isn't a terrible move to be honest. You can scout shit.

And it's not like Beedrill had a massive movepool to begin with..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:01:05 No.22933880 Report

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>>22933370
People use this thing loads on Rated Spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:04:25 No.22933913 Report

Quoted By: >>22933950

>>22933834
>Beedrill protects
>Opponent sets up
>Beedrill is kill

It can either work really well or really bad. You may protect and make your opponent waste a turn attacking, or they could set up on you or get a safe switch.

On the other hand, since a lot of beedrill run protect, you could just hope your opponent thinks you're going to use it and go for an attack, but that's risky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:04:54 No.22933918 Report

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>>22933675
Gothitelle isn't banned, it's OU by usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:06:39 No.22933929 Report

Quoted By: >>22934643

>beedrill, a previously useless pokemon, now gets legendary speed and attack which makes it a solid choice for any team in need of a fast physical sweeper with an open mega slot
>HURRR DURRRR THIS POKEMON CAN'T FLAWLESSLY DEFEAT EVERY POKEMON IN THE METAGAME!!!!!!!!!! IT SUCKS!!!! WHY CANT I USE MY TEAM OF 6 HEXAPERFECT SHINY MEGARAYS UUUGGGGGGGHHHHHH -____- UR SUCHA BUNCH OF PUSSY'S........,,,,,...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:08:53 No.22933950 Report

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>>22933913
>U-Turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:10:52 No.22933968 Report

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>>22933834
>X-Scissor
>Knock Off
>Drill Run
>Poison Jab
Four of these together would make for awesome coverage (does anything even wall this?). It's a shame vanilla Beedrill's shittiness ruins it by making it run protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:12:28 No.22933983 Report

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>>22933968
>Adaptability U-Turn

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Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:23:30 No.22934077 Report

Quoted By: >>22934767

>NU
Considering what it has going for it, its pretty surprising its down so low. This thing was terrifying in gen 5 with sand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 00:33:19 No.22934138 Report

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>>22933401
Pidgeot just need more moves to use with no guard and it's solid

Beedrill is really good for a former shitmon, but need a team support.
it's really good in muh-mentum teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 01:37:22 No.22934643 Report

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>>22933929
Minus the super hilarious ironic shitposting, this is pretty on point.

Megas are offering salvation to previously garbage Pokémon that were eternally doomed to shittiness, and yet STILL when something like Pidegeot gets a good Mega that makes it relevant, all the children have to say is "waste of a Mega slot"

Okay sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 01:40:03 No.22934661 Report

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>>22933401
Pigeot can kill stuff when you wear them enough. And that speed guarantees you'll have an easy time sweeping. It's really underrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 01:42:09 No.22934682 Report

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>>22933820
>Greninja used Gunk Shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Mar 2015 01:51:28 No.22934767 Report

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>>22934077
This. I thought it would be atleast RU because of my run ins and use in mono and spot that it would be higher.

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